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Russian Meddling is nothing new.....

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I don't have all the answers any more than you do. I would think, however, it would be wise to take a look what was tried in the past and gauge how successful/unsuccessful those attempts were, no?

I just don't see a downside to that.

Perhaps one idea would to not allow the Secretary of State to keep her/his work computer in their private residence. Just a thought.
1. Hillary had an email server, not her work computer, in her residence.
2. The topic is Russian interference in an election....remember?
 

justoffal

Senator
Of course it's nothing new, but remember the fakestream media just woke up from an eight year coma in 2016, so they're still catching up.
What amazes me is the total horror panic about the summit....so Trump is meeting with Putin....so freakin what? Why are they so determined for this not to be a reality??? It doesn't make any sense. First they call him the bringer of WW3 and world doom....a man who has no diplomatic finesse.....now he's meeting with world leaders and instead he becomes an ass kisser. Don't they realize that people are watching them?

JO
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
What amazes me is the total horror panic about the summit....so Trump is meeting with Putin....so freakin what? Why are they so determined for this not to be a reality. It doesn't make any sense. First they call him the bringer of ww3 and world doom....a man who has no diplomatic finesse.....now he's meeting with world leaders and instead he becomes an ass kisser. Don't they realize that people are watching them?

JO
So you have no problem with a meeting where there is no one else present? I'm not. Now there is no record of the meeting and we have no idea of what was promised.

Do you have any information on other presidents meeting privately with the head of a country accused of attacking ours?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Just pointing out how the media has been in a tizzy ever since Hillary promised you all a war with Russia. They (and you) were asleep when Obama/Clinton and Putin/Medvedev were openly plotting together.
Don't ever lecture anyone about being off topic...unless you want to start staying on topic yourself....
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
1. Hillary had an email server, not her work computer, in her residence.
2. The topic is Russian interference in an election....remember?
Having easy access to classified intel would likely make election meddling an even easier proposition, no?

Don't fret.....Most people will get it.
 
Don't ever lecture anyone about being off topic...unless you want to start staying on topic yourself....
I'm on topic. We're talking about the decades of Russian election meddling, and the eight years you and the fakestream media ignored it.

Now that the Democrats have decreed they won't accept the outcome of any election they don't win, it's going to be a front-and-center issue going forward.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/01/05/russia-has-been-meddling-in-foreign-elections-for-decades-has-it-made-a-difference/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e4fe5fe828fd

Moscow has been doing this for decades....then again so has China and most recently NK. The most dangerous of these is demonstrably China......
In Other Words: "... Russia attacking America is OK with me as long as non-whites are hurt and I'm able to give a lot of money to rich people..."

I miss anything?

Thx
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
The facts are that the 2016 election meddling was far more pervasive and successful than ever before. Minimizing that fact is nuts.
The expected, myopic view of history I suppose - If it happened recently, it exceeds in scope everything that preceded it.

Still, the thread topic is that "Russian meddling is nothing new"...….Perhaps to the chagrin of some, that has been firmly established.
 
I'm on topic. We're talking about the decades of Russian election meddling, and the eight years you and the fakestream media ignored it.

Now that the Democrats have decreed they won't accept the outcome of any election they don't win, it's going to be a front-and-center issue going forward.
What should be done to stop it?
 

justoffal

Senator
I'm on topic. We're talking about the decades of Russian election meddling, and the eight years you and the fakestream media ignored it.

Now that the Democrats have decreed they won't accept the outcome of any election they don't win, it's going to be a front-and-center issue going forward.
Yep...it was never important before two years ago.

Also...China is waaaaaay worse and waaaaaay more dangerous to us that Moscow has ever been. Not only are they into our election process they have successfully penetrated financial, medical, and technological servers up to and including the pentagon where they actually pilfered the plans for the stealth bomber and then proceeded to build one just like it. Trump is totally correct to hit them with Tariffs.

JO
 
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Still, the thread topic is that "Russian meddling is nothing new"...….Perhaps to the chagrin of some, that has been firmly established.
False equivalency has been established that's it

Like calling a Russian nuclear blast over LA an IED and saying Russians have exploded IED's before
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The expected, myopic view of history I suppose - If it happened recently, it exceeds in scope everything that preceded it.

Still, the thread topic is that "Russian meddling is nothing new"...….Perhaps to the chagrin of some, that has been firmly established.
Whether or not it happened in previous elections is relevant how? It has not been "firmly established" and the only documented attempt was in 1959 in an offer to Adlai.

The attempt to deflect the discussion from Trump and what is happening today...you guys either say "so what, it happened in the past" or "so what, we did it too".
 

justoffal

Senator
So you have no problem with a meeting where there is no one else present? I'm not. Now there is no record of the meeting and we have no idea of what was promised.

Do you have any information on other presidents meeting privately with the head of a country accused of attacking ours?
We never have an idea of what was promised....we depend more on leaks than on the word of the man making or breaking promises....that's totally stupid. In any case the hysteria is about the fact that the meeting is taking place at all. Why all the moaning and garment rending over a meeting? It does not match the set of potential problems that they are trying to connect it to.
It smells of external interests.....imo..namely Soros.



JO
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Whether or not it happened in previous elections is relevant how? It has not been "firmly established" and the only documented attempt was in 1959 in an offer to Adlai.

The attempt to deflect the discussion from Trump and what is happening today...you guys either say "so what, it happened in the past" or "so what, we did it too".
Check the thread topic - That's what I'm addressing.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
We never have an idea of what was promised....we depend more on leaks than on the word of the man making or breaking promises....that's totally stupid.

JO
If you trust Trump, it isn't a problem. I see no reason to trust the man.
 
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