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Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

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Jet fuel that's a good one.
Americans have this phobia about Russia .. The words evil empire comes to mind.

Canadians on the other hand look at things far different if you say Russia to a Canadian he thinks great hockey game. (that evil empire does not enter the mind)


NO solid evidence was produced about the so called hack.

Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

A group of veteran intelligence officials presented a new theory about the Democratic National Committee hack, but the technical evidence behind it appears to be lacking.

The group, known as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), recently published an open letter to President Donald Trump arguing that the DNC hack was not perpetrated by Russian hackers, but instead by an insider threat. The DNC hack inside job theory circulated over the last year, but it hadn't carried much weight, if any, before the VIPS report.

The organization claimed that, based on technical evidence provided by two independent security researchers, it was determined that the download of the nearly 20,000 emails from the DNC was performed at a speed of 22.7 megabytes per second (roughly 180 megabits per second). VIPS and its security researchers argue that speed was simply too fast for a remote network connection and, therefore, the data must have been copied locally onto an external storage device, like a USB drive.

In addition to arguing that the DNC hack was an inside job, VIPS made the explosive claim that Russian fingerprints were generated to blame the incident on Russian state-sponsored hackers.

Several publications, including The Nation, picked up the VIPS letter, which challenges the FBI and CIA's assessment of the DNC hack. However, a number of infosec experts have debunked the VIPS theory, and have refuted the technical evidence that allegedly points to the DNC hack being an inside job.

Who are the independent security researchers VIPS used to build this case? What is the technical evidence that led VIPS to believe the DNC hack was an inside job? Why is this so-called evidence misleading? SearchSecurity editors Rob Wright and Peter Loshin discuss those questions and more in this episode of the Risk & Repeat podcast.


https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/podcast/Risk-Repeat-Was-the-DNC-hack-an-inside-job

WikiLeaks figure says 'disgusted' Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray should know he was handed a thumb drive with the leaked documents in a park in Washington by an insider ..


Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/
 

Spamature

President
Americans have this phobia about Russia .. The words evil empire comes to mind.

Canadians on the other hand look at things far different if you say Russia to a Canadian he thinks great hockey game. (that evil empire does not enter the mind)


NO solid evidence was produced about the so called hack.

Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

A group of veteran intelligence officials presented a new theory about the Democratic National Committee hack, but the technical evidence behind it appears to be lacking.

The group, known as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), recently published an open letter to President Donald Trump arguing that the DNC hack was not perpetrated by Russian hackers, but instead by an insider threat. The DNC hack inside job theory circulated over the last year, but it hadn't carried much weight, if any, before the VIPS report.

The organization claimed that, based on technical evidence provided by two independent security researchers, it was determined that the download of the nearly 20,000 emails from the DNC was performed at a speed of 22.7 megabytes per second (roughly 180 megabits per second). VIPS and its security researchers argue that speed was simply too fast for a remote network connection and, therefore, the data must have been copied locally onto an external storage device, like a USB drive.

In addition to arguing that the DNC hack was an inside job, VIPS made the explosive claim that Russian fingerprints were generated to blame the incident on Russian state-sponsored hackers.

Several publications, including The Nation, picked up the VIPS letter, which challenges the FBI and CIA's assessment of the DNC hack. However, a number of infosec experts have debunked the VIPS theory, and have refuted the technical evidence that allegedly points to the DNC hack being an inside job.

Who are the independent security researchers VIPS used to build this case? What is the technical evidence that led VIPS to believe the DNC hack was an inside job? Why is this so-called evidence misleading? SearchSecurity editors Rob Wright and Peter Loshin discuss those questions and more in this episode of the Risk & Repeat podcast.


https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/podcast/Risk-Repeat-Was-the-DNC-hack-an-inside-job

WikiLeaks figure says 'disgusted' Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray should know he was handed a thumb drive with the leaked documents in a park in Washington by an insider ..


Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/
No. It was the Russians.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Americans have this phobia about Russia .. The words evil empire comes to mind.

Canadians on the other hand look at things far different if you say Russia to a Canadian he thinks great hockey game. (that evil empire does not enter the mind)


NO solid evidence was produced about the so called hack.

Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

A group of veteran intelligence officials presented a new theory about the Democratic National Committee hack, but the technical evidence behind it appears to be lacking.

The group, known as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), recently published an open letter to President Donald Trump arguing that the DNC hack was not perpetrated by Russian hackers, but instead by an insider threat. The DNC hack inside job theory circulated over the last year, but it hadn't carried much weight, if any, before the VIPS report.

The organization claimed that, based on technical evidence provided by two independent security researchers, it was determined that the download of the nearly 20,000 emails from the DNC was performed at a speed of 22.7 megabytes per second (roughly 180 megabits per second). VIPS and its security researchers argue that speed was simply too fast for a remote network connection and, therefore, the data must have been copied locally onto an external storage device, like a USB drive.

In addition to arguing that the DNC hack was an inside job, VIPS made the explosive claim that Russian fingerprints were generated to blame the incident on Russian state-sponsored hackers.

Several publications, including The Nation, picked up the VIPS letter, which challenges the FBI and CIA's assessment of the DNC hack. However, a number of infosec experts have debunked the VIPS theory, and have refuted the technical evidence that allegedly points to the DNC hack being an inside job.

Who are the independent security researchers VIPS used to build this case? What is the technical evidence that led VIPS to believe the DNC hack was an inside job? Why is this so-called evidence misleading? SearchSecurity editors Rob Wright and Peter Loshin discuss those questions and more in this episode of the Risk & Repeat podcast.


https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/podcast/Risk-Repeat-Was-the-DNC-hack-an-inside-job

WikiLeaks figure says 'disgusted' Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray should know he was handed a thumb drive with the leaked documents in a park in Washington by an insider ..


Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/
Trump Now Says He Accepts U.S. Intelligence Reports on Russian Election Meddling

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-now-says-he-accepts-us-intelligence-reports-on-russian-election-meddling/ar-AAAdqKk?li=BBnb7Kz



The story that Craid Murray got a thumb drive from someone proves nothing at all.

So for grins, let's say I'm in Moscow and have gained access to the DNC email server. I can extract emails to a local file at a pretty fast speed. Then I FTP the extracted emails in a zip file to a couple of intermediate systems to make it harder to trace...eventually back to a system I have physical access to. I then copy the files to a thumb drive and mail them or have a courier carry the drive to DC....and hand them over to Wiki.

I could even have Ftp'd those files to the Russian embassy or one of the facilities that Obama shut down...

The VIPs think the only way to do it would be to send an email at a time straight to Moscow.
 
Trump Now Says He Accepts U.S. Intelligence Reports on Russian Election Meddling

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-now-says-he-accepts-us-intelligence-reports-on-russian-election-meddling/ar-AAAdqKk?li=BBnb7Kz



The story that Craid Murray got a thumb drive from someone proves nothing at all.

So for grins, let's say I'm in Moscow and have gained access to the DNC email server. I can extract emails to a local file at a pretty fast speed. Then I FTP the extracted emails in a zip file to a couple of intermediate systems to make it harder to trace...eventually back to a system I have physical access to. I then copy the files to a thumb drive and mail them or have a courier carry the drive to DC....and hand them over to Wiki.

I could even have Ftp'd those files to the Russian embassy or one of the facilities that Obama shut down...

The VIPs think the only way to do it would be to send an email at a time straight to Moscow.
So sad WikiLeaks had to do the FBI's job for them. That's what happens when the rot runs as deep as it does in the DOJ.
 
Whaa?

So just what do you think Wiki did that was supposed to have been done by the FBI?
Revealed the extent of the corruption in the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Unless you think rigging a primary election should go unpunished. And I'm sure you do, as long as the ones doing the rigging are Democrats.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Revealed the extent of the corruption in the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Unless you think rigging a primary election should go unpunished. And I'm sure you do, as long as the ones doing the rigging are Democrats.
How was the primary rigged? Hillary got more votes. The Wikileaks crap didn't expose anything resembling an illegal act. They published emails were someone suggested telling people that Sanders was Jewish as a tactic...it was ignored.

Show me one single Wikileaks leaked email that you think shows an act of corruption.

What doesn't fly is your fact free posts....try coming up with proof some time.
 
How was the primary rigged? Hillary got more votes. The Wikileaks crap didn't expose anything resembling an illegal act. They published emails were someone suggested telling people that Sanders was Jewish as a tactic...it was ignored.

Show me one single Wikileaks leaked email that you think shows an act of corruption.

What doesn't fly is your fact free posts....try coming up with proof some time.
Why did Debbie Wasserman-Schultz get fired?
 

Boca

Governor
Americans have this phobia about Russia .. The words evil empire comes to mind.

Canadians on the other hand look at things far different if you say Russia to a Canadian he thinks great hockey game. (that evil empire does not enter the mind)


NO solid evidence was produced about the so called hack.

Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

A group of veteran intelligence officials presented a new theory about the Democratic National Committee hack, but the technical evidence behind it appears to be lacking.

The group, known as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), recently published an open letter to President Donald Trump arguing that the DNC hack was not perpetrated by Russian hackers, but instead by an insider threat. The DNC hack inside job theory circulated over the last year, but it hadn't carried much weight, if any, before the VIPS report.

The organization claimed that, based on technical evidence provided by two independent security researchers, it was determined that the download of the nearly 20,000 emails from the DNC was performed at a speed of 22.7 megabytes per second (roughly 180 megabits per second). VIPS and its security researchers argue that speed was simply too fast for a remote network connection and, therefore, the data must have been copied locally onto an external storage device, like a USB drive.

In addition to arguing that the DNC hack was an inside job, VIPS made the explosive claim that Russian fingerprints were generated to blame the incident on Russian state-sponsored hackers.

Several publications, including The Nation, picked up the VIPS letter, which challenges the FBI and CIA's assessment of the DNC hack. However, a number of infosec experts have debunked the VIPS theory, and have refuted the technical evidence that allegedly points to the DNC hack being an inside job.

Who are the independent security researchers VIPS used to build this case? What is the technical evidence that led VIPS to believe the DNC hack was an inside job? Why is this so-called evidence misleading? SearchSecurity editors Rob Wright and Peter Loshin discuss those questions and more in this episode of the Risk & Repeat podcast.


https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/podcast/Risk-Repeat-Was-the-DNC-hack-an-inside-job

WikiLeaks figure says 'disgusted' Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray should know he was handed a thumb drive with the leaked documents in a park in Washington by an insider ..


Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/




Back on February 18, 2018 [ Kim Dot Com] reiterated his assertion from May of 2017 that he knew who breached the DNC server(s) but Special Counsel Robert Mueller wasn’t interested in hearing him out.

Why would that be? Why wouldn’t someone willing to kick in the doors of President Trump’s associates in his search for evidence give a willing cyber forensics expert who claimed knowledge of the hack and the murder of a person with access to the server a hearing?

For a Special Counsel charged with “turning over every leaf” in his search for collusion the appearance that Mueller is protecting someone or a number of someones becomes inescapable.

What did a 27-year-old IT worker for the DNC know that Mueller was intent on hiding?

After Mueller refused Kim’s offer to testify, his attorneys warned him to avoid the Special Counsel altogether.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member



Back on February 18, 2018 [ Kim Dot Com] reiterated his assertion from May of 2017 that he knew who breached the DNC server(s) but Special Counsel Robert Mueller wasn’t interested in hearing him out.

Why would that be? Why wouldn’t someone willing to kick in the doors of President Trump’s associates in his search for evidence give a willing cyber forensics expert who claimed knowledge of the hack and the murder of a person with access to the server a hearing?

For a Special Counsel charged with “turning over every leaf” in his search for collusion the appearance that Mueller is protecting someone or a number of someones becomes inescapable.

What did a 27-year-old IT worker for the DNC know that Mueller was intent on hiding?

After Mueller refused Kim’s offer to testify, his attorneys warned him to avoid the Special Counsel altogether.
better tell Trump...he now believes the Russians did it.

When did Kim claim to work for the DNC?
 
Americans have this phobia about Russia .. The words evil empire comes to mind.

Canadians on the other hand look at things far different if you say Russia to a Canadian he thinks great hockey game. (that evil empire does not enter the mind)


NO solid evidence was produced about the so called hack.

Risk & Repeat: Was the DNC hack an inside job?

A group of veteran intelligence officials presented a new theory about the Democratic National Committee hack, but the technical evidence behind it appears to be lacking.

The group, known as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), recently published an open letter to President Donald Trump arguing that the DNC hack was not perpetrated by Russian hackers, but instead by an insider threat. The DNC hack inside job theory circulated over the last year, but it hadn't carried much weight, if any, before the VIPS report.

The organization claimed that, based on technical evidence provided by two independent security researchers, it was determined that the download of the nearly 20,000 emails from the DNC was performed at a speed of 22.7 megabytes per second (roughly 180 megabits per second). VIPS and its security researchers argue that speed was simply too fast for a remote network connection and, therefore, the data must have been copied locally onto an external storage device, like a USB drive.

In addition to arguing that the DNC hack was an inside job, VIPS made the explosive claim that Russian fingerprints were generated to blame the incident on Russian state-sponsored hackers.

Several publications, including The Nation, picked up the VIPS letter, which challenges the FBI and CIA's assessment of the DNC hack. However, a number of infosec experts have debunked the VIPS theory, and have refuted the technical evidence that allegedly points to the DNC hack being an inside job.

Who are the independent security researchers VIPS used to build this case? What is the technical evidence that led VIPS to believe the DNC hack was an inside job? Why is this so-called evidence misleading? SearchSecurity editors Rob Wright and Peter Loshin discuss those questions and more in this episode of the Risk & Repeat podcast.


https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/podcast/Risk-Repeat-Was-the-DNC-hack-an-inside-job

WikiLeaks figure says 'disgusted' Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails

Craig Murray should know he was handed a thumb drive with the leaked documents in a park in Washington by an insider ..


Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/
I heard Monday about this same thing on the radio. The computer expert discussing this exact same thing said there isn't a network in the world that could or can download at that speed.

Said it didn't and doesn't exist.

If what he said is factual it blows the entire Russian "hacking" theory away.

On the surface it would seem like an easy theory to prove or disprove to me.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Why must you always lie?

On Monday, standing next to Mr. Putin, President Trump not only avoided all mention of the Justice Department’s indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence officers, but he questioned the very conclusion that Russia was behind the hacking.
Why can't you pay attention?

Trump Today: President backtracks, now says he accepts Russia meddled in U.S. election

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-today-president-tweets-out-defenses-of-putin-nato-summits-2018-07-17
 
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