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Two Lessons Hillary Clinton and Monica Lewinsky could teach Ivanka Trump Kushner:

Caroljo

Senator
We have no idea what Ivanka did. We do know that Hillary did not “destroy evidence” - personal emails are not “evidence.”
Why did Hillary have her staffers destroy her mobile devices after she got a subpoena? Did she have incriminating texts that might hurt her? Who knows now? Hillary wiped her email server clean. Why would she do that? Your excuses for her suck!
 

Caroljo

Senator
We have no idea what Ivanka did. We do know that Hillary did not “destroy evidence” - personal emails are not “evidence.”
There could have been a lot of evidence in those personal emails! Are you really that dumb??? Besides the fact that nobody writes that many personal emails in just 2 years, let alone keep them all on the server to clog everything up. You're quite naïve.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Why did Hillary have her staffers destroy her mobile devices after she got a subpoena? Did she have incriminating texts that might hurt her? Who knows now? Hillary wiped her email server clean. Why would she do that? Your excuses for her suck!
She did it because she thinks the same rules apply to her as apply to all government officials - she was under no obligation to produce personal emails.

You and your fellow wingers can’t grasp this because your view is that a different rule applies to her. A symptom of GOP mania.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
There could have been a lot of evidence in those personal emails! Are you really that dumb??? Besides the fact that nobody writes that many personal emails in just 2 years, let alone keep them all on the server to clog everything up. You're quite naïve.
Evidence of what?

And I don’t know about you, but the email boxes of most people contain at least 20 received emails, including junk emails, for every email one writes.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Of course that's what you believe....no surprise there! You believe Ivanka lied, yet not Hillary? LOL!
And no, I won't shut the hell up until you do (which means never)…..
I said Hillary didn't lie? I said she DOES lie. Whether or not she lied about the emails, I don't know and neither do you. And like Hillary, I know Ivanka lies. Her business dealings are being scrutinized along with her husband's and brother's business dealings. Unless Trump shuts down all investigations into his family like he has his on tax returns and other dealings, we might never get an answer. Isn't that what Trump wants? To be like Putin and other dictators? Not accountable for a thing? Is that what YOU want, Jen, the Mueller investigation shut down, no scrutiny into his financial dealings with Putin and the Saudis, no questions about the Saudi's spending millions to stay in Trump facilities, which pads his personal account?
I think that's what you and other Trump toadies want...to be RULED by a disgusting, self-centered POS who doesn't care what kind of people (Putin, Saudi Prince, Kim Un) as long as it benefits him and his crooked kids. His excuse that he's doing it for US is BS. Donald Trump only thinks of himself.
 

Caroljo

Senator
Evidence of what?

And I don’t know about you, but the email boxes of most people contain at least 20 received emails, including junk emails, for every email one writes.

Who knows what the evidence might have been? She got rid of all of them! duh.....

So, do you keep all your junk emails, or do you immediately delete them like most people do? If she had only personal emails (no junk), with an average of 20 per day (as you suggested) sent and received, that would give her just over 14,000 emails in 2 years. She deleted about 33,000 'personal' emails. That's more than twice the average person. Like I said, you're pretty naïve!
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Who knows what the evidence might have been? She got rid of all of them! duh.....

So, do you keep all your junk emails, or do you immediately delete them like most people do? If she had only personal emails (no junk), with an average of 20 per day (as you suggested) sent and received, that would give her just over 14,000 emails in 2 years. She deleted about 33,000 'personal' emails. That's more than twice the average person. Like I said, you're pretty naïve!
I see. You wanted Hillary’s personal emails preserved and produced because they might have had evidence of, well, something. You know not what.

Can you list the GOP officials also subject to your “rule” of preserving and producing personal emails because they might contain evidence of....something?

Or, should you just confess to absurd GOP hackery and end your suffering?

;-)
 

Caroljo

Senator
I see. You wanted Hillary’s personal emails preserved and produced because they might have had evidence of, well, something. You know not what.

Can you list the GOP officials also subject to your “rule” of preserving and producing personal emails because they might contain evidence of....something?

Or, should you just confess to absurd GOP hackery and end your suffering?

;-)
Like I said....she deleted them all, so we'll never know. There could have been evidence in those personal emails. Maybe she talked about government business in some of them. Do you know she didn't? No. Neither do I. But the way she handled this makes her look guilty as hell. And stop with your stupid "rule" comments. You know damn well I never said it was a rule. But when someone in the Government has done something wrong, it should be a law that at that time on they need to hand EVERYTHING over. If any of us had done this, and destroyed what could be evidence, we would be spending years in prison. It wouldn't matter if we said we didn't know. The FBI protected her....that's the only reason she got away with it. But I like that a Judge is now saying she has to answer some questions under oath about it. Then again....she'll say she didn't know, doesn't remember, or take the 5th. Like all liberals do.....
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Like I said....she deleted them all, so we'll never know. There could have been evidence in those personal emails. Maybe she talked about government business in some of them. Do you know she didn't? No. Neither do I. But the way she handled this makes her look guilty as hell. And stop with your stupid "rule" comments. You know damn well I never said it was a rule. But when someone in the Government has done something wrong, it should be a law that at that time on they need to hand EVERYTHING over. If any of us had done this, and destroyed what could be evidence, we would be spending years in prison. It wouldn't matter if we said we didn't know. The FBI protected her....that's the only reason she got away with it. But I like that a Judge is now saying she has to answer some questions under oath about it. Then again....she'll say she didn't know, doesn't remember, or take the 5th. Like all liberals do.....
Translation: I can name no GOP officials to whom I apply the same “rule” about personal emails. I’m an absurd GOP hack.

;-)
 

Caroljo

Senator
Translation: I can name no GOP officials to whom I apply the same “rule” about personal emails. I’m an absurd GOP hack.

;-)
Liar. That is not what I said. Everyone should have the same rules. But the extent of the punishment should be determined by their cooperation and how far it went. Just like a drug user doesn't get as harsh of a punishment as the drug seller does. :). In this case....Hillary is the drug seller. Ivanka has cooperated from the beginning.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Liar. That is not what I said. Everyone should have the same rules. But the extent of the punishment should be determined by their cooperation and how far it went. Just like a drug user doesn't get as harsh of a punishment as the drug seller does. :). In this case....Hillary is the drug seller. Ivanka has cooperated from the beginning.
More nonsense.

First, you have no idea what Ivanka did or didn’t do. You just repeat the Trump party line, as if they ever tell the truth.

Second, you again fail to identify any GOP officials to whom you subject your “rule” as to personal emails. It’s just your “Hillary rule.” Instead of just admitting your dishonest hackery you screech “Liar!”
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Liar. That is not what I said. Everyone should have the same rules. But the extent of the punishment should be determined by their cooperation and how far it went. Just like a drug user doesn't get as harsh of a punishment as the drug seller does. :). In this case....Hillary is the drug seller. Ivanka has cooperated from the beginning.
You're feeding the DNC paid troll for Quarters
Just Say NO

Seldom do dem/libs reply to the shrimp ass bug

 

EatTheRich

President
Or she figured that since Hillary did it and it was fine............that it would be okay if she did it too. But then that double standard reared its ugly head. Hillary and Ivanka obviously don't play to the same set of rules.
Legally, they don’t. Conducting government business using a private email account was legal when Clinton was doing it and had been made illegal when Trump did it.
 

EatTheRich

President
The attacks on Hillary is because of what she did AFTER she was told to hand over everything. Is she really that stupid to think what she did didn't prove she was guilty?? What did she want to hide? It has nothing to do with politics....it has everything to do with how she responded.
Handing over everything she was told to hand over proves she had something to hide?

Sure. But Hillary's was deemed to be okay (even after she said "no" to the subpoena). Thus..............
She said “no” to a subpoena? Got a link? Or were you duped by the propaganda about her deleting emails outside the scope of the subpoena even as she turned over every email that was in fact under subpoena, and misled into thinking the emails she deleted were the subpoenad ones?
 

Jen

Senator
Legally, they don’t. Conducting government business using a private email account was legal when Clinton was doing it and had been made illegal when Trump did it.
The illegal part for Hillary was destroying the emails after they were under subpoena. As far as I know, Ivanka has destroyed nothing.
 

Jen

Senator
Handing over everything she was told to hand over proves she had something to hide?



She said “no” to a subpoena? Got a link? Or were you duped by the propaganda about her deleting emails outside the scope of the subpoena even as she turned over every email that was in fact under subpoena, and misled into thinking the emails she deleted were the subpoenad ones?
She didn't have to say the word "no". By destroying the emails and not handing them over, the "no" was implied. Odd that I have to state the obvious to you......but okay........ low information folks just have a hard time with actually getting information.
 

EatTheRich

President
They all know what she did by destroying the evidence....yet they said she didn't mean to do anything wrong. Any of us would be in jail if we destroyed evidence, especially AFTER you are told to hand it over! I'm sure you know how Comey lied and made her look like she just didn't know what she was doing! I shouldn't have to give you proof....is your google broke?
Destroyed evidence ... of what? She turned over every email within the scope of the subpoena.
 
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