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Why the Heathen Democrats Will Never Win

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yes you can be "a little socialist". Every successful economy in the world is a little socialist and a little capitalist.

Fricken duh!
Then why is it always the case that once an economy starts adding socialism, it is the socialism that grows while the capitalism shrinks? Logic would tell you such a phenomenon suggests that you in fact cannot be "a little socialist."
 

FakeName

Governor
Which came first, the capitalism or the socialism? Once you "combine the two" it is no longer a capitalist economy - it has entered the transition phase to a socialist economy (as evidenced by the never ending addition of socialist policies). And it can not go back to being a capitalist economy until full socialism (communism) is achieved, and the subsequent collapse creates the opportunity to reset and start over (see Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, et al). Are you finally understanding?
Socialism.

All early societies we're pure socialism. They shared everything.
 

FakeName

Governor
Then why is it always the case that once an economy starts adding socialism, it is the socialism that grows while the capitalism shrinks? Logic would tell you such a phenomenon suggests that you in fact cannot be "a little socialist."
That is not always the case. The mixture ebbs and flows.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
What does that have to do with what we are discussing?
That's a joke, son.


But seriously, "sharing" isn't socialism. "From each according to their means, to each according to their need" is socialism. Wealth redistribution. Helping out your neighbors (and them returning the favor when they can) isn't. Sure there were some early socialist experiments - like Plymouth Colony:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2011/11/23/occupy-plymouth-colony-how-a-failed-commune-led-to-thanksgiving/

It didn't work any better back then than it does now...
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
It is not a canard it is simply a fact.
No, it's a canard. The fact is it's incredibly difficult to catch an illegal immigrant unless they are caught in the act (which most criminals are not). They live in the shadows and don't have permanent addresses or any community anchors to allow police to track them down. So the probabilities are overwhelming that only a small sliver of illegal immigrant crimes are attributed to illegals. The vast majority go down as "unsolved." Even at that, it is clear that there is an effort to obscure the actual levels of illegal immigrant crime.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-illegal-immigration-and-criminal-activity
 

FakeName

Governor
Now we're back to that canard. Is there more or less socialism in the developed economies now versus say, 1950?
No, it's a canard. The fact is it's incredibly difficult to catch an illegal immigrant unless they are caught in the act (which most criminals are not). They live in the shadows and don't have permanent addresses or any community anchors to allow police to track them down. So the probabilities are overwhelming that only a small sliver of illegal immigrant crimes are attributed to illegals. The vast majority go down as "unsolved." Even at that, it is clear that there is an effort to obscure the actual levels of illegal immigrant crime.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-illegal-immigration-and-criminal-activity

You have no idea what we are talking about do you?

Immigration?
 

FakeName

Governor
That's a joke, son.


But seriously, "sharing" isn't socialism. "From each according to their means, to each according to their need" is socialism. Wealth redistribution. Helping out your neighbors (and them returning the favor when they can) isn't. Sure there were some early socialist experiments - like Plymouth Colony:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2011/11/23/ooccupy-plymouth-colony-how-failed-commune-led-to-thanksgiving/

It didn't work any better back then than it does now...
Every early society was socialist, they had no concept of private property or wage labor.

Capitalism didn't come along until much later and it failed in every case. Only when capitalist economies were combined with socialism did they thrive. All of the successful economies in the world are mixed economies.
 

EatTheRich

President
Lets recap:

I said:

You can't be a "little bit" pregnant any more than you can be a "little bit" socialist.

Now you at least appear to be agreeing with me here that there are no remaining "capitalist" countries. Simple logic suggests if they were once "capitalist," and are now something else as a result of adopting "some" socialist policies. What that "something else" is, is in a state of transition between capitalism and socialism. Which, of course, was precisely my point.

I may not always be "serious" but I don't forget my point and this wasn't a "total fail" - at least not by me.
I see you have redefined capitalism to mean something other than private ownership and market control over development. So be it. What country was once capitalist whose prior system you would like to restore?
 

EatTheRich

President
Then why is it always the case that once an economy starts adding socialism, it is the socialism that grows while the capitalism shrinks? Logic would tell you such a phenomenon suggests that you in fact cannot be "a little socialist."
If you redefine socialism to mean the welfare state, this is absolutely false. For example, the U.S. had a much more robust welfare state in the 1950s when it not coincidentally produced a large middle class for the first and only time.
 

EatTheRich

President
That's a joke, son.


But seriously, "sharing" isn't socialism. "From each according to their means, to each according to their need" is socialism. Wealth redistribution. Helping out your neighbors (and them returning the favor when they can) isn't. Sure there were some early socialist experiments - like Plymouth Colony:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2011/11/23/occupy-plymouth-colony-how-a-failed-commune-led-to-thanksgiving/

It didn't work any better back then than it does now...
Plymouth Colony was a for-profit joint-stock corporation.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
LOL ... another "I speak for them" token by supporters of an Icon of hate Donald Trump

Well

At least she's more appealing than the black gumper wingers keep posting about on youtube.

She's still just about as stupid and even more ignored
Keep on laughing past that graveyard. This lady is having a powerful impact on the Black community. You shitheads are terrified of her and this is evidenced by the personal verbal abuse she has received from the heathen democrats.
If she is successful in turning even 5% of Black voters to the Right, you'll never get them back on the plantation.
 
Keep on laughing past that graveyard. This lady is having a powerful impact on the Black community. ....
I'm black, never heard of here and as soon as "trump supporter" comes after her name she's ignored by 90% of anyone of color.

No one likes people who support a racist and child abuser like Benedict Donald
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I'm black, never heard of here and as soon as "trump supporter" comes after her name she's ignored by 90% of anyone of color.

No one likes people who support a racist and child abuser like Benedict Donald
"I'm black" maybe in your mind but not in reality, IMO.


since you're so concerned:)
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
I'm black, never heard of here and as soon as "trump supporter" comes after her name she's ignored by 90% of anyone of color.

No one likes people who support a racist and child abuser like Benedict Donald
You won't see her on MSNBC and, no matter how much you deny it, she is not being ignored by 90% of the Black community.
Just because you choose to stay in the political party of the KKK, segregation, and Jim Crow, for the pennies they give you to vote democrat, doesn't mean all Black people are that lazy and ignorant.
 

EatTheRich

President
You won't see her on MSNBC and, no matter how much you deny it, she is not being ignored by 90% of the Black community.
Just because you choose to stay in the political party of the KKK, segregation, and Jim Crow, for the pennies they give you to vote democrat, doesn't mean all Black people are that lazy and ignorant.
You do think the large majority of Black people are lazy and ignorant, though?
 
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