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Illegal alien charged with killing Mollie Tibbetts gets $3,200 from taxpayers

Barbella

Senator
And you think you are not a fascist.
My opinion of this has absolutely nothing to do with politics, it is merely a reflection of my distaste of people who rape and murder young girls.

How do you feel about it? No biggie? Meh.. it happens? He just had a bad childhood? Molly was white, so she deserved it?

People who purposefully murder others don't deserve to live. Shoot them. If you think that's somehow "fascist", go for it. To me, it's simply justice.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have?

To answer those questions, we must start with a more basic question–does the U.S. Constitution apply to undocumented immigrants?

“Yes, without question,” said Cristina Rodriguez, a professor at Yale Law School. “Most of the provisions of the Constitution apply on the basis of personhood and jurisdiction in the United States.”

Many parts of the Constitution use the term “people” or “person” rather than “citizen.” Rodriguez said those laws apply to everyone physically on U.S. soil, whether or not they are a citizen.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have
Illegal aliens have no constitutional rights in this country, other than those rights that pertain to human rights. They cannot be tortured or jailed without some sort of due process. They cannot be shot dead upon determination that they are illegal. They cannot be jailed for an extended period of time without a trial.
Other than human rights, they have no other rights that are afforded to American citizens. They have no right of redress against the government for deporting them.
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Of course he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. So if he hadn’t been in the country, the murder would still have been committed, presuming he is innocent, and someone still would probably have been arrested for it (maybe even the guilty person), and we’d still have the same expense.

I suppose if all the men left this country the crime rate would plummet, and taxpayers would save a lot of money. Men, after all, are as a group much more likely to commit crimes of violence than “illegals.” As are citizens, for that matter.

Yada, yada, yada...….and IF the Queen of England had nuts she would be the King...…….Blah, blah, blah.....more loony li bby babble...…….

You can try to candy coat a turd to try to pass it off as a candy bar to others all you like but only you dems will be dense enough to actually WABT to take a bite.
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
is that because the constitution can be ignored if it is an illegal immigrant accused of a crime?
Oh hell to the NO!

Everyone with at least one eye and half-assed sense knows that the "US" Constitution, like ALL US laws, applies to every person on earth, right?
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Of course he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. So if he hadn’t been in the country, the murder would still have been committed, presuming he is innocent, and someone still would probably have been arrested for it (maybe even the guilty person), and we’d still have the same expense.

I suppose if all the men left this country the crime rate would plummet, and taxpayers would save a lot of money. Men, after all, are as a group much more likely to commit crimes of violence than “illegals.” As are citizens, for that matter.

I LOVE it...……"Of course he is presumed innocent until proven guilty."!!!!!!!!!!!

In-fukin'-DEED...………..

Tell you what, skippy, just pretend he is a white policeman accused of murder or a white conservative accused of rape 40 years ago, see if that won't help you accept the fact he can be deemed guilty just for being accused, whatta ya say, wanna?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
My opinion of this has absolutely nothing to do with politics, it is merely a reflection of my distaste of people who rape and murder young girls.

How do you feel about it? No biggie? Meh.. it happens? He just had a bad childhood? Molly was white, so she deserved it?

People who purposefully murder others don't deserve to live. Shoot them. If you think that's somehow "fascist", go for it. To me, it's simply justice.
What you suggest is not justice. It is fascist vigilantiism.
 

Barbella

Senator
What you suggest is not justice. It is fascist vigilantiism.
Oh goody. Unlike you apparently, I defend the innocent, not the guilty.

Dirty Harry was deemed important for a report in the American Civil Liberties Union Newsletter, which observed that the movie really begins at the point where the fourteen-year-old-girl is discovered dead and the idiot DA attacks Harry: "Does Escobedo ring a bell? Miranda? Ever hear of the Fourth Amendent? That man had rights." Harry (and we) have nothing but exasperation for the pointy-headed Berkeley law professor who tries to educate him in the niceties of constitutional protection -- which, in Scorpio's case, has been violated under the Fourth, the Fifth, the Sixth, and possibly the Fourteenth Amendents.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whats-with-the-lefts-rejection-of-vigilante-films/
 

Barbella

Senator
I LOVE it...……"Of course he is presumed innocent until proven guilty."!!!!!!!!!!!

In-fukin'-DEED...………..

Tell you what, skippy, just pretend he is a white policeman accused of murder or a white conservative accused of rape 40 years ago, see if that won't help you accept the fact he can be deemed guilty just for being accused, whatta ya say, wanna?
Sweet....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yeah, they didn't make it impossible for him to NOT get a job. And Dems refuse to close the border. And Dems build sanctuary cities and states like it is going out of style.
1. the repubs didn't make everify mandatory when the were in control and they owned congress from 2010 to 2018...and how long was a repub in the WH?
2. did Reagan or either Bush close the border?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Oh goody. Unlike you apparently, I defend the innocent, not the guilty.

Dirty Harry was deemed important for a report in the American Civil Liberties Union Newsletter, which observed that the movie really begins at the point where the fourteen-year-old-girl is discovered dead and the idiot DA attacks Harry: "Does Escobedo ring a bell? Miranda? Ever hear of the Fourth Amendent? That man had rights." Harry (and we) have nothing but exasperation for the pointy-headed Berkeley law professor who tries to educate him in the niceties of constitutional protection -- which, in Scorpio's case, has been violated under the Fourth, the Fifth, the Sixth, and possibly the Fourteenth Amendents.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whats-with-the-lefts-rejection-of-vigilante-films/
In our system of justice all are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You seem to prefer systems of "justice" more prevalent in a dictatorship.
 
1. the repubs didn't make everify mandatory when the were in control and they owned congress from 2010 to 2018...and how long was a repub in the WH?
2. did Reagan or either Bush close the border?
And yet is the compounding effect of creating sanctuaries and REFUSING to close the borders that really makes the case for Dems being the root problem (with corporate RINO support).
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And yet is the compounding effect of creating sanctuaries and REFUSING to close the borders that really makes the case for Dems being the root problem (with corporate RINO support).
You really do not understand the scope of a sanctuary city, do you.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And yet is the compounding effect of creating sanctuaries and REFUSING to close the borders that really makes the case for Dems being the root problem (with corporate RINO support).
The crime happened in Iowa. Any sanctuary cities there?

You're truly a moron if you think Trump's wall is going to close the border.
 

EatTheRich

President
Lead and rope are two different things. I'm happy to see this cretin get a bullet to the head and would lose no sleep providing the service. If you prefer hanging, that's on you.
A summary execution without a trial and with no civil rights is a lynching regardless of the method used. I prefer the rule of law.
 

EatTheRich

President
Show us where the constitution grants illegals any rights at all. I hope you are aware that the first seven words of the constitution are "We the people of the united states". That should tell you that the word "people" means citizens. THINK
No, the fact that it is qualified by “of the United States” implies that there are also people who are not “of the United States.”
 
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