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NZ caving to terrorists, giving them Exactly what they want.

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
No one claims it's foolproof, but your survival chances are a helluva lot better if there's a trained gun owner nearby than if you're sitting there with nothing but a prayer...
Nope - your chances are far, far higher if you live in a western democracy with strict gun safety legislation.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

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yeah - just like all of those other western democracies that have roughly between one tenth and one third the number of gun deaths we have in America. No surprise that the Trump worshiping gunman went from Australia with decent gun safety legislation to New Zealand with lax gun safety laws to commit this massacre.
Gun murders are meniscal in America I don't know where you get your information from.
Compared to the number of guns per capita it's less than 1 %.
Long guns are even lower. I gladly accept those stats versus the alternative.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Once again and why must I have to repeat myself?
Compared to the number of guns per capita it's less than 1 % compared to other countries.
Long guns are even lower. I gladly accept those stats versus the alternative.
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-in-other-countries/

Why would any intelligent person think that the per capita number of gun deaths per gun was a better measure of the safety of a population than the per capita number of gun deaths?

O, it's you..... that answers it.
 

miketx

Council Member
Why would any intelligent person think that the per capita number of gun deaths per gun was a better measure of the safety of a population than the per capita number of gun deaths?

O, it's you..... that answers it.
What you fools dont want to talk about is all the other non gun crime. London is more crime ridden than NYC and getting worse. Why don't push to make democrats stop letting criminals go with a slap on the wrist?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
How does that prove anything? *Edited*
Aside from the leader of his nation calling him a right winger, his praise for Trump and his hatred for immigrants? I don't need any other proof.

If you want to try to prove he is a left winger...go for it.
 

miketx

Council Member
Aside from the leader of his nation calling him a right winger, his praise for Trump and his hatred for immigrants? I don't need any other proof.

If you want to try to prove he is a left winger...go for it.
Try? You dont accept proof. And you still haven't proven your claim he was pro Trump. And you never will. You will do what your kind does best, muddy the waters.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Try? You dont accept proof. And you still haven't proven your claim he was pro Trump. And you never will. You will do what your kind does best, muddy the waters.
You never provide evidence of what you believe....His "manifesto" said "Trump is a symbol of white identity and common purpose".
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

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Why would any intelligent person think that the per capita number of gun deaths per gun was a better measure of the safety of a population than the per capita number of gun deaths?

O, it's you..... that answers it.
Because with all the hundreds of millions of firearms in public hands gun deaths are low compared to other countries with less population and fewer guns
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So he said that, what does it prove? Besides he has an opinion?
So, aside from his opinions, his actions, his support for white supremacist ideals, the opinion of the leader of the country he grew up in...what would you base your opinion of the guy on? :rolleyes:
 

EatTheRich

President
Damn... I thought Ardern was smarter than that.

Let's see how many guns will actually be turned in... in fact, let's see how many guns will be turned in by CRIMINALS... hmmmm. I'm sure they'll jump right on it.

And were you aware that it took the police 1/2 hour to fully respond to that massacre? If only ONE law-abiding person in each of those mosques had a gun... the death toll might be 3 or 4... but I can guarantee you it wouldn't have been 50. Those worshippers were sitting ducks, and that's just what terrorists, criminals, and insane leftists want.

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/259-pm-guns-legal-nz-300-pm-massive-gun-ban-began-promise-prison-fines-anyone-wouldnt-comply/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=raisingred&utm_campaign=ttp&utm_content=2019-03-22&fbclid=IwAR3Re70rXLJNBdQzLH8ANSQsIJgD47aMhR7iBYgIrFhX3I7dwA-ma46X7bE
Uh, wasn’t the shooter a gun rights activist?
 
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