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Western Civilization burns in effigy in the form of Notre Dame

One or two hours is impossible resident_ - true that Notre-Dame is on an island but the emergency services are expert at clearing areas and getting to fires anywhere in Paris very very fast ...... it makes no sense that it took that long. We must though wait for conformation of that because rumours always fly at such times.

It is never reported by our corrupt and wicked media but since 2016 the Christian religious communities of France have, on an almost daily basis, suffered terrorist attacks and desecrations from Islamists - that said I fear worse than Islamists here I fear Macron et al - Les Elite have been plagued by the Gilet Juanes for, what is it now, 23 consecutive weeks? Since November anyway - they will of course blame them and crack down even harder now using this heart breaking fire as the excuse to shoot French citizens. That is the way it is here now ................ I think that everyone has been expecting 'Macron' to pull some sort of awful stunt to halt the protests but this? The very heart and soul of France? We shall hear the truth of it from the Gilet Jaune .............. but it is very hard for me, at least, to believe that this was an accident or even an Islamic attack.

Oh my heart breaks.
 
That repairs were going on anyway makes it not impossible that the fire was purposefully set to cause the least damage but we shall see ............. the damage to the soul is not so easily repaired :(
I don't have an emotional attachment to Notre Dame. I feel a loss of a wider common heritage but it is not closely personal as it would be for someone who may have regularly attended services. I feel empathy for those Christians with a strong emotional reaction to this event and not as much to those who are secular and affected emotionally. The real meaning is in the Christianity and belief and not the secular feelings. It is a jaded way I express myself surely.
 
I don't have an emotional attachment to Notre Dame. I feel a loss of a wider common heritage but it is not closely personal as it would be for someone who may have regularly attended services. I feel empathy for those Christians with a strong emotional reaction to this event and not as much to those who are secular and affected emotionally. The real meaning is in the Christianity and belief and not the secular feelings. It is a jaded way I express myself surely.
It is of a European soul no matter our beliefs - how can I explain? I will relate it to myself even tough I am neither French nor Catholic - Notre-Dame holds within it the collective spirituality of France - as the CofE holds, for me, the collective spirituality of England ( as our old Catholic Cathedrals do too) - even though I am not myself CofE either I do go to church sometimes - Our little village church was built in 1200 - the church in the next village up even earlier -

Got to go ---- back later xxx
 

middleview

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You're the typical leftist thief trying to toss around "hate" to steal the truth.
You're the typical right wing dufus tossing around hate in place of the truth.

You've yet to post anything truthful about the Notre Dame fire. You follow the Trump talking points perfectly. Gin up hate against someone, anyone. Call those you disagree with fascists or communists. Argue that an industrial accident that burns Notre Dame is somehow burning western civilization in effigy....Don't let a good disaster go without blaming someone for it....eh?

Remember when the Fallwells and Pat Roberstons of the right wing claimed Katrina was God's revenge on gays and liberals?

Now Glenn Beck implies that it was Muslims who burned the church. The same bullshit comes up in other right winger's posts here.

Alex Jones claims there is a pizza joint in DC owned by Hillary Clinton where she runs a child prostitution ring and you idiots lap that shit up....even traveling to DC to shoot the place up. Right wingers crawl out from every sewer and river rock to join in the Unite the Right rally...showing their true colors and Trump calls them fine people....

Virtue Signaling at it's finest is when people like you claim you are patriots defending the republic against the evil liberals.
 
You're the typical right wing dufus tossing around hate in place of the truth.

You've yet to post anything truthful about the Notre Dame fire. You follow the Trump talking points perfectly. Gin up hate against someone, anyone. Call those you disagree with fascists or communists. Argue that an industrial accident that burns Notre Dame is somehow burning western civilization in effigy....Don't let a good disaster go without blaming someone for it....eh?

Remember when the Fallwells and Pat Roberstons of the right wing claimed Katrina was God's revenge on gays and liberals?

Now Glenn Beck implies that it was Muslims who burned the church. The same bullshit comes up in other right winger's posts here.

Alex Jones claims there is a pizza joint in DC owned by Hillary Clinton where she runs a child prostitution ring and you idiots lap that shit up....even traveling to DC to shoot the place up. Right wingers crawl out from every sewer and river rock to join in the Unite the Right rally...showing their true colors and Trump calls them fine people....

Virtue Signaling at it's finest is when people like you claim you are patriots defending the republic against the evil liberals.
You done stealing yet?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Are you going to get your story straight or not. The right (to include me) are haters (aka racists). And in turn that makes you lefties thieves. You steal everything that isn't AND is nailed down. You're thieves.
Your hate is in your posts. It is not something you can deny. I've never called you a racist..so nice try at a deflection there.

You claim I've stolen truth...and yet you cannot refute one single part of my post. Tactics over substance...when you run out of steam you simply resort to insults and attacks on those you disagree with.
 

EatTheRich

President
Nearly 1000 years after construction, despite wars every .
100 or so a Christian equivalent of the Holy Place in Mecca goes up in smoke in Paris.

How many Muslims are there now living in Paris?

How many now in our Congress?

We know one (edited) (edited) (edited) (edited) ho there said 9/11 was nothing more than " some people doing something " when 3000 American infidels were murdered.
https://reason.com/2019/04/15/ilhan-omar-some-people-trump-tweet/

Fir the record, there are perhaps 400,000 Muslims in Paris, and exactly 3 in Congress.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
France has never been a country that could defend itself properly.


It allowed Islam to take it............ we need to just walk away, I guess.
Did you know that French troops were the first of our allies to be on the ground in Afghanistan after 911? They participated in the liberation of Mazar e Sharif from the Taliban.
 
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