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Breaking news: Trump order enables AG to Declassify Info/docs About Origins of Russia Probe

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Deleted member 21794

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HA...easy to say when you know it will never happen. You could read the whole redacted thing and deny any wrongdoing whatsoever by Trump, even if it were laid out for anyone to see......Hell, it already is, without the redacted part. The obstruction is there and it continues every time he keeps one of his people from testifying.
It'll happen. Wanna bet?
 

Dino

Russian Asset
You should read the Mueller report.
Our Intel routinely monitors communications of our foes like Russia. They picked up communications between Trump campaign people and Russians. Other nations told us they'd picked up the same. That prompted our Intel to take a serious look at what was going on concerned that Russians were infiltrating, compromising the campaign.
Nonsense. There were plenty of communications between Russians and members of BOTH political campaigns.
Get your shit together. What a mess.
 

Boca

Governor
No doubt selective declassification. I can't wait until ten years from now when all of this crap comes back to haunt the guilty.
Ten years from now the guilty will either still be serving their sentences or have been compassionately exiled and stripped of citizenship which in Obama's case will be the second time. Kenya did so when he turned 22 in 1983.

The possibility of exile might be why the Obama's recently sold their Martha's Vineyard mansion.

He's not stupid.
 
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JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Nonsense. There were plenty of communications between Russians and members of BOTH political campaigns.
Get your shit together. What a mess.
Podesta and the DNC being hacked by Russians.....does not a communication make... between Dems and Russians.
180 contacts between Russians and members of the Trump campaign.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Podesta and the DNC being hacked by Russians.....does not a communication make... between Dems and Russians.
180 contacts between Russians and members of the Trump campaign.
Campaigns are ALWAYS in contact with ambassadors and leadership of foreign nations. It’s part of running for the job.
You have ZERO proof of any illegal activities, collusion, bargaining or cooperation between Putin and Trump’s campaign. Zero.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Campaigns are ALWAYS in contact with ambassadors and leadership of foreign nations. It’s part of running for the job.
You have ZERO proof of any illegal activities, collusion, bargaining or cooperation between Putin and Trump’s campaign. Zero.
180 contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign.
That's what prompted our Intel community to investigate.
Read the Mueller report.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
Ten years from now the guilty will either still be serving their sentences or have been compassionately exiled and stripped of citizenship which in Obama's case will be the second time. Kenya did so when he turned 22 in 1983.

The possibility of exile might be why the Obama's recently sold their Martha's Vineyard mansion.

He's not stupid.
I figured all of those stupid enough to be Birthers had long since been committed to a nice mental health facility.

As for anyone who violates the law or abuses the powers of their office, regardless of party, I hope justice is served and they do their time. God knows far too many have gotten away with crimes simply because of their political connections.
 

Boca

Governor
180 contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign.
That's what prompted our Intel community to investigate.
Read the Mueller report.
Geezus....do you not understand that contacts between officials of countries is called diplomacy. And in case of Carter Page his business as an energy consultant may have dozens of Russian contacts himself.

Or is it that your brain's election of view points has been "interfered" with by your news sources...and even worse by your elected representatives?

After two years of it perhaps you should seek out an apolitical shrink.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 

Boca

Governor
I figured all of those stupid enough to be Birthers had long since been committed to a nice mental health facility.

As for anyone who violates the law or abuses the powers of their office, regardless of party, I hope justice is served and they do their time. God knows far too many have gotten away with crimes simply because of their political connections.
What does Birther have to do with it?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yeah, Schiff refers to it as a "cover-up." How is releasing evidence in any way, shape or form, a "cover-up?"
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Let's put it this way; The Russians are interfering in the election, I have close business relations with the Russians and even seek help from them against political opponents. After I win the election, I denounce any investigation into the Russians and publicly accept Putin's word that our intelligence agencies are wrong and that he didn't order any interference.

Do you think I should be investigated? A simple yes or no, please.
That's a nice description of the CIRCUMSTANTIAL case for the "investigation." A pretty weak one at that.

I don't know about you but I want our government to have more than (weak) circumstantial evidence before launching an investigation of a POTUS.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
What are my leftists afraid of ? Shouldn't this show Big bad Orange Man's bad bad behavior ?!>?!

First You cry about the Mueller report and it's lack of Transparency

THEN the Mueller LESS redacted report is available AND NOT ONE DEMOCRAT READS IT

THEN these documents will be unsealed - and we cry again ??!?!?!?!?!

What are we afraid of. Unless this cooks our goose !
 

reason10

Governor
Unsurprising that you don’t believe the Russians interfered in the 2016 election or that the Trump’s had relations with the Russians.
The Mueller Report (which cost MILLIONS OF DOLLARS) proved the Russians DID NOT interfere with the 2016 election. Are you just plain stupid?

Russia donated $145 MILLION to the Clintons.
Russia donated ZERO to Trump.

You lose again.
 

MrMike

Bless you all
All this Democrat spying and collusion hoax stuff has apparently taken a real toll on Nadler. He lost it when he learned Trump was declassifying documents.

 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
Investigated for what?
Abuse of power and corruption. While I think Trump is just playing for time (and giving Russia a bunch of our intelligence assets) any reasonable accusations of a crime by our government officials should be investigated.

There's no doubt Obama pulled some strings through Lynch to not see Hillary charged with classified material handling violations as other people have been charged under his administration. If he'd do that, would he also bend the rules and use political influence to push a legitimate Russia investigation into a political weapon against Trump? I don't know, but support it being investigated by a bipartisan investigation.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
The Mueller Report (which cost MILLIONS OF DOLLARS) proved the Russians DID NOT interfere with the 2016 election. Are you just plain stupid?...
That's a false statement, but it is proof you are not seeing the world rationally.

What the sane, educated and intelligent people already know:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/04/18/what-the-mueller-report-tells-us-about-russian-influence-operations/
The redacted Special Counsel report released this morning confirms that the Russian government, through various proxies, carried out a multi-pronged campaign against the United States before, during, and after the 2016 election. That campaign involved three distinct elements:
  1. A social media influence and infiltration operation led by the Internet Research Agency (IRA);
  2. A cyber hacking operation carried out by the Russian military intelligence (GRU); and
  3. An infiltration operation of the Trump campaign.

Additionally, the Russian influence conclusion was proved by our intelligence agencies:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
We assess with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election, the consistent goals of which were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign then focused on undermining her expected presidency.

You and other TCSers are free to rant, scream and denounce our military and intelligence service leadership. I do not. Although retired, I continue to support our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and trust that our military and intelligence services are commanded by like-minded patriots. Obviously your loyalties lie elsewhere.
 
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