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From a ‘flyover state’ resident, well said!

Spamature

President
Pretty much how I feel about it...

You don’t have to be a saint for God to love you or for you to love God. I didn't vote for Trump because he's been married three times, I didn’t vote for him because he may have cheated on any of his wives, and I certainly didn’t vote for him because he had lost money in a business venture and filed for bankruptcy. I did vote for him because our border should have a wall to help stop all the illegals, I voted for him because he promised to cut unemployment and create jobs, I voted for him because he loves America and will fight for our republic and our rights, I voted for him because he believes in our Constitution and above all else I felt he would deliver on every promise if there was any way possible. He isn’t a perfect man, but he is the perfect man for the job of President of the great republic the United States of America. After the anti-American, corrupt Obama, Trump is a breath of fresh air!
In other words they voted for him for a bunch of **** that hasn't actually happened while ignoring a bunch of **** that did actually happen.

WTF ?
 

Barbella

Senator
In other words they voted for him for a bunch of **** that hasn't actually happened while ignoring a bunch of **** that did actually happen.

WTF ?
He didn’t reduce unemployment and create jobs? He didn’t get our economy humming again, he didn’t bring back manufacturing jobs, he didn’t bring minority unemployment to historic lows?

If moron dems wouldn’t buck him at every turn, he could have achieved a lot more...
 

Spamature

President
He didn’t reduce unemployment and create jobs? He didn’t get our economy humming again, he didn’t bring back manufacturing jobs, he didn’t bring minority unemployment to historic lows?

If moron dems wouldn’t buck him at every turn, he could have achieved a lot more...
Not at a better rate or to the degree that Obama did. I assume she meant that he would improve over the performance of the previous admin.


Since that low point, Obama created 16 million jobs, a 11.6 percent increase. If measured that way, Obama was the third-largest job creator in terms of numbers
...
President Trump created 4.7 million jobs in his first two years. That's a 3.1 percent increase over the 152.2 million people working at the end of Obama's term
.


Or look at it this way.

Trump’s through September:


 

EatTheRich

President
I’d rather we take care of these first:

16 million American kids struggle with hunger each year. An estimated 48.8 million Americans , including 16.2 million children, live in households that lack the means to get enough nutritious food on a regular basis. As a result, about 1 in 5 children go hungry at some point during the year.

To start.
So you are for an immediate increase in the minimum wage and a guaranteed minimum income? No, of course not.

Instead you are for attacks on workers’ social wage that begin with immigrants but soon spillover into attacks on children and other vulnerable people regardless of national origin or citizenship status.
 

Colorforms

Senator
So you are for an immediate increase in the minimum wage and a guaranteed minimum income? No, of course not.

Instead you are for attacks on workers’ social wage that begin with immigrants but soon spillover into attacks on children and other vulnerable people regardless of national origin or citizenship status.
Typical leftist, there is only one way to solve a problem, and that's my way. If you don't want to do it my way, you don't want to solve the problem. :)
 

EatTheRich

President
Typical leftist, there is only one way to solve a problem, and that's my way. If you don't want to do it my way, you don't want to solve the problem. :)
Feel free to suggest another way. Make sure it’s not more of the Reaganomics that caused child poverty to skyrocket.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Feel free to suggest another way. Make sure it’s not more of the Reaganomics that caused child poverty to skyrocket.
A proper education and a strong economy so that anyone who wants a job can have one and companies are competing for the best and brightest.

You know, not socialism. :)
 

EatTheRich

President
A proper education and a strong economy so that anyone who wants a job can have one and companies are competing for the best and brightest.

You know, not socialism. :)
Last time I checked, socialist countries out-competed wealthier capitalist countries when it came to education and in most cases employment also.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Last time I checked, socialist countries out-competed wealthier capitalist countries when it came to education and in most cases employment also.
So Cuba has a thriving middle class? How about Venezuela? I do agree that the American educational system has gone to hell since we decided to start indoctrinating kids instead of teaching them to think on their own. It's something we have to fix.

On the other hand, socialist countries are terrific if you want poverty, starvation, and shortages. It's great when you can get 8 hours of power in Venezuela these days. I don't know what we did to you that would make you want that for us here in America.
 

EatTheRich

President
So Cuba has a thriving middle class? How about Venezuela? I do agree that the American educational system has gone to hell since we decided to start indoctrinating kids instead of teaching them to think on their own. It's something we have to fix.

On the other hand, socialist countries are terrific if you want poverty, starvation, and shortages. It's great when you can get 8 hours of power in Venezuela these days. I don't know what we did to you that would make you want that for us here in America.
Cuba (a socialist country) and Venezuela (a capitalist country) both have “thriving” middle classes by Latin American standards. Certainly child hunger is not an issue in Cuba, as (you pointed out) it is a common occurrence in the U.S.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Cuba (a socialist country) and Venezuela (a capitalist country) both have “thriving” middle classes by Latin American standards. Certainly child hunger is not an issue in Cuba, as (you pointed out) it is a common occurrence in the U.S.
So that's why they're tripping over each other to come here. Oh, and I know you know Venezuela is a social country after Chavez got done with it. so you're making no converts continuing with that lie. :)
 

EatTheRich

President
So that's why they're tripping over each other to come here. Oh, and I know you know Venezuela is a social country after Chavez got done with it. so you're making no converts continuing with that lie. :)
Did Chavez put an end to the market-based mode of production in Venezuela? No, he did not.

It is actually pretty amazing how few Cubans have wanted to come to the U.S. given the automatic residency and job placement they get when they come here.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Did Chavez put an end to the market-based mode of production in Venezuela? No, he did not.

It is actually pretty amazing how few Cubans have wanted to come to the U.S. given the automatic residency and job placement they get when they come here.
He nationalized all of the major utilities and oil production facilities. He also took over the communications industry and started socialist regulations which crippled private business. In other words, he was a democrat.
 

EatTheRich

President
He nationalized all of the major utilities and oil production facilities. He also took over the communications industry and started socialist regulations which crippled private business. In other words, he was a democrat.
The government has a majority stake (alongside private investors) in oil and utilities, which is one of the only industries with that extensive government involvement. Private business was harmed by the collapse of oil. Not by mythical “socialist regulations.” The communications industry was censored and regulated but not nationalized.

The fact that you are comparing him to the Democratic Party ... a capitalist party ... establishes that his actions were capitalistic.
 

Colorforms

Senator
The government has a majority stake (alongside private investors) in oil and utilities, which is one of the only industries with that extensive government involvement. Private business was harmed by the collapse of oil. Not by mythical “socialist regulations.” The communications industry was censored and regulated but not nationalized.

The fact that you are comparing him to the Democratic Party ... a capitalist party ... establishes that his actions were capitalistic.
You're way to caught up in labels. The democrat party is NOT a capitalistic party. In fact, they are calling themselves socialist now. You really are holding onto complete BS.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Of course. Capitalism is based on the systematic destruction of the Earth, all human ties of culture, family, or love, and human life, all in the name of profit.
Socialism is based on the subjugation of a society under an oppressive central authority. It is the antithesis of a free society.
 

EatTheRich

President
Socialism is based on the subjugation of a society under an oppressive central authority. It is the antithesis of a free society.
Socialism means the dictatorship of the proletariat. It is the antithesis of bourgeois freedom and therefore the precondition for the liberation of the oppressed masses.
 
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