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kaz

Small l libertarian
If you can't see it for yourself, you must've flunked high school civics.
Julie: I have nothing, kaz. Which is why I am not answering the question, not backing up my pathetically shallow assertion, and to top it off, I'm going to parrot back to you what you've been saying to us leftists about high school civics

Obviously you failed high school civics since you don't know what he did. You just don't want to admit you were only parroting fake news who told you to think that. And like the good little leftist you are, you thought it!

Trump hasn't done anything to our "democracy," which is why you can't say what he did
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Julie: I have nothing, kaz. Which is why I am not answering the question, not backing up my pathetically shallow assertion, and to top it off, I'm going to parrot back to you what you've been saying to us leftists about high school civics

Obviously you failed high school civics since you don't know what he did. You just don't want to admit you were only parroting fake news who told you to think that. And like the good little leftist you are, you thought it!

Trump hasn't done anything to our "democracy," which is why you can't say what he did
I've listed many times the facts of Trump undermining our democracy, our Constitution and violating his oath of office. If I thought you'd seriously engage in a discussion of my claims, I'd write them out again. I don't. If you are truly interested, you can find them in my archives.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
I've listed many times the facts of Trump undermining our democracy, our Constitution and violating his oath of office. If I thought you'd seriously engage in a discussion of my claims, I'd write them out again. I don't. If you are truly interested, you can find them in my archives.
Right, you just can't think of any. You're just parroting fake news. They tell you what to think, they don't explain it. That's why you don't know
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
It's just how the primaries are done. The actual policy differences are minute, but they play them up to differentiate themselves in the primaries.
Anybody can do anything they want as long as they are willing to accept the consequences and there are consequences for everything. I'm willing.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Right, you just can't think of any. You're just parroting fake news. They tell you what to think, they don't explain it. That's why you don't know
Of course she can't and if she did it would be of the 8 years before Trump and pure Treason
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Anybody can do anything they want as long as they are willing to accept the consequences and there are consequences for everything. I'm willing.
There's no consequences for Democrats. Even under Trump despite all his threats hasn't held a single Democrat accountable for their actions.

Democrats flip positions, the press doesn't look up their original quotes. Democrats start investigations of Republicans on fraudulent data, they investigate Republicans, never the Democrats who used the fraudulent data. Democrats run DC even when Republicans control both houses, the presidency and the SCOTUS. There is no accountability for Democrats at all ever
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Welcome to the dark side. I said the same thing about Hillary and why I voted for Gary Johnson
Same here. I’m done with the two major parties. I didn’t particularly like Gary Johnson, but I voted for him.
 

Jen

Senator
Same here. I’m done with the two major parties. I didn’t particularly like Gary Johnson, but I voted for him.
No one likes the two major parties. The GOP is just an arm of the Democrat Party.

Trump has never been a Republican. He's certainly not perfect, but I like how he walks his own path and is hated by both Democrats and Republicans. I like that a lot.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Realistically,the Democratic race is a 4 way race. Beto is done. Buttigieg is raising a lot of money but stuck at 7-8% in the polls. Right now the race is Biden/Warren/Harris/Bernie. Ima be straight up right now. If the election were held today and the Dem candidate was anyone but Biden among those 4,I would sit this one out. I cannot support Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Kamala Harris was my 2nd choice but she took herself off my list last month. Not sure there is anything she can do to get back on it.

Republicans threw away their purity test in 2016. Some resisted for awhile after the election and some hesitantly let go of it before the election,but Republicans and conservatives are mostly on board now. The pastors at the church I attend are solidly in Trump's corner. The folks who voted for Trump in 2016 are still on board and will be there in November next year. The only question is how many more he can pick up. I would add that the signal sent from Florida in November last year is a very good sign for Republicans.

My party has responded, apparently, by making it's purity test harder to pass and I can hardly bear watching it right now. Also, apparently,older white and maybe older black moderate/conservative Democrats who have voted in every election since they turned 18, like myself, don't pass the test. I don't just hang out in PJ. I hang out in a couple other mostly left-leaning sites. There the progressive left complains of Biden not exciting "the base". The progressive left has proclaimed itself to be "the base" and the rest of us should just get in line. I got news for 'em. They have a voice and a vote but they don't have the final say for the rest of us. There is a big generational divide in the Democratic electorate and the current signs point to the next election ripping it apart. We could see the return of "Reagan Democrats" as "Trump Democrats" especially if the economy keeps rolling along. Ima be straight up about another thing. Ima 'bout out of give a f**ks too.

There! I've said it. Sorry for the long post. I normally don't do this.

You're welcome Republicans. After the last election, I "got over it" quick. I ate my crow,congratulated the folks on the right and moved on. Won't be hard to do it again if need be.
All I can tell you, BD, is that I am similarly disaffected with respect to both parties and bailed on them quite some time ago. I was once a conservative Republican (into the early 90’s). That party left me. My in-laws are Rust Belt Democrats (south Ohio). They say they have little in common with the Democratic Party of today. We’re all independents now.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
There's no consequences for Democrats. Even under Trump despite all his threats hasn't held a single Democrat accountable for their actions.

Democrats flip positions, the press doesn't look up their original quotes. Democrats start investigations of Republicans on fraudulent data, they investigate Republicans, never the Democrats who used the fraudulent data. Democrats run DC even when Republicans control both houses, the presidency and the SCOTUS. There is no accountability for Democrats at all ever
My post was sorta an assessment of my party...maybe not in it's entirety...and how I intend at this moment to exercise my vote or not vote,as the case may be. I was sorta unkind to my party too,but I'm more fair and balanced and objective about it than you are. When I posted that OP,I fully expected the usual suspects on your side of the aisle to pile on. Clean up your own side of the street first and then maybe we'll talk.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
No one likes the two major parties. The GOP is just an arm of the Democrat Party.

Trump has never been a Republican. He's certainly not perfect, but I like how he walks his own path and is hated by both Democrats and Republicans. I like that a lot.
Trump pretty much makes everybody dislike him. He’s really tough to like. I may agree on a policy here or there, but that guy’s a complete jerk.

That said, I dislike all politicians...so...

:)
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
My post was sorta an assessment of my party...maybe not in it's entirety...and how I intend at this moment to exercise my vote or not vote,as the case may be. I was sorta unkind to my party too,but I'm more fair and balanced and objective about it than you are. When I posted that OP,I fully expected the usual suspects on your side of the aisle to pile on. Clean up your own side of the street first and then maybe we'll talk.
Gawd, another one.

Duh, dar, drool, you're not a Democrat, kaz, that makes you a Trump supporter. Hic, drool.

Yeah, baby cakes. Gotcha. The world is Democrats and Trump supporters.

So past your wanting to demonstrate your extremely limited grasp of the world, let's get back to the subject you ignored.

You talked about accountability. Name Democrats who have been held accountable in administrations or the legislature since Clinton. Go ...
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Welcome to the dark side. I said the same thing about Hillary and why I voted for Gary Johnson
No sir/ma'am. I ain't stepping over to the dark side or the Libertarian Party. The Libertarian Party nominates washed-up Republicans. No thanks.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
No sir/ma'am. I ain't stepping over to the dark side or the Libertarian Party. The Libertarian Party nominates washed-up Republicans. No thanks.
Did you know the libertarians aren't Democrats OR Trump supporters? At the same time! You're just getting your world rocked today, aren't you? It's like your head is going to explode!

You were right that I'm not a Democrat. After that is when you stopped being right
 
Gawd, another one.

Duh, dar, drool, you're not a Democrat, kaz, that makes you a Trump supporter. Hic, drool.

Yeah, baby cakes. Gotcha. The world is Democrats and Trump supporters.

So past your wanting to demonstrate your extremely limited grasp of the world, let's get back to the subject you ignored.

You talked about accountability. Name Democrats who have been held accountable in administrations or the legislature since Clinton. Go ...
what should they be held accountable for?
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Gawd, another one.

Duh, dar, drool, you're not a Democrat, kaz, that makes you a Trump supporter. Hic, drool.

Yeah, baby cakes. Gotcha. The world is Democrats and Trump supporters.

So past your wanting to demonstrate your extremely limited grasp of the world, let's get back to the subject you ignored.

You talked about accountability. Name Democrats who have been held accountable in administrations or the legislature since Clinton. Go ...
It's my thread brother/sister. The topic is in the OP. You wanna talk about something else,start your own thread. Here's a thought. Let's see you start a thread and point that same finger at Republicans.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
It's my thread brother/sister. The topic is in the OP. You wanna talk about something else,start your own thread. Here's a thought. Let's see you start a thread and point that same finger at Republicans.
I did respond to your point about accountability and that Democrats are never held accountable for anything. It was you who started talking about OMG, you're not a Democrat, that makes you a Trump supporter.

What did whether I was a Trump supporter or not have to do with my pointing out that Democrats are never held accountable or that you can't think of any counter examples? You took the thread away from the topic. I just reacted to your stupid crap that not supporting Democrats makes me a Trump supporter, it doesn't
 
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