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From the battlefront of the trade war... In the trenches at Walmart

justoffal

justoffal

Senator
I don't go to Walmart very often even though there is a super center about two miles from my house; but I thought I would go to see for myself the horror of rising prices due to the so called trade war ( there really is no such ting as a trade war btw) and this is what I found. NOTHING.

Walmart continues to undersell everyone in the area despite the fact that 80 percent of what you find on their shelves is affiliated in some form with Chinese trade. Bought a Mr. Coffee maker there that was two dollars cheaper than the one I bought there last year. Yeah....they last about a year of heavy use....but then again so do the 100 and 200 dollar models. Walked through the Black and Decker stuff....the Stanley Stuff....The Oster Stuff.....All made in China btw..... All of it is down in price. This is called real world information. The Mr. Coffee ....Coffee maker I picked up for $17.99 was the very same one I paid $21.99 for a little over a year ago. The Oster electric skillet I bought for $49.99 about six months ago was on sale for $39.99...so I bought another one to keep in the attic to replace the one I'm using now when it stops working.

Yeah....UM.....I didn't see any evidence of Tariffs on these things...

Chicken prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down ... Pork prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down.

Maybe I'm just not buying the affected goods? OR...maybe the bullshit about Americans paying for the Tariffs is just that...Bullshit.

Sure Walmart has threatened to raise prices....but I think they know better. After all they have Amazon Breathing down their necks....lol.

The prices that were up? All of your local goods like fruits and vegetables...way up. Not sure why. I know they don't come from China....Maybe the farmers are paying more for their Chinese products like machinery and so on? Not sure.....but I doubt it. Oh and Harbor Freight is having another HUGE SIDEWALK sale this week! I love tool sales!

Yawwwwwwwn...

"No evidence of Tariffs in the pricing so far".... JO

" They Sky is falling! " ..... Henny Penny

OH and BTW....Walmart is doing so poorly with the Tariffs that the Walton familiy's worth is going up right now by 4 Million bucks an hour. Trade war? Yeah...um.... not so much.

JO
 
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ObamacareForever

Senator
justoffal said:
I don't go to Walmart very often even though there is a super center about two miles from my house; but I thought I would go to see for myself the horror of rising prices due to the so called trade war ( there really is no such ting as a trade war btw) and this is what I found. NOTHING.

Walmart continues to undersell everyone in the area despite the fact that 80 percent of what you find on their shelves is affiliated in some form with Chinese trade. Bought a Mr. Coffee maker there that was two dollars cheaper than the one I bought there last year. Yeah....they last about a year of heavy use....but then again so do the 100 and 200 dollar models. Walked through the Black and Decker stuff....the Stanley Stuff....The Oster Stuff.....All made in China btw..... All of it is down in price. This is called real world information. The Mr. Coffee ....Coffee maker I picked up for $17.99 was the very same one I paid $21.99 for a little over a year ago. The Oster electric skillet I bought for $49.99 about six months ago was on sale for $39.99...so I bought another one to keep in the attic to replace the one I'm using now when it stops working.

Yeah....UM.....I didn't see any evidence of Tariffs on these things...

Chicken prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down ... Pork prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down.

Maybe I'm just not buying the affected goods? OR...maybe the bullshit about Americans paying for the Tariffs is just that...Bullshit.

Sure Walmart has threatened to raise prices....but I think they know better. After all they have Amazon Breathing down their necks....lol.

The prices that were up? All of your local goods like fruits and vegetables...way up. Not sure why. I know they don't come from China....Maybe the farmers are paying more for their Chinese products like machinery and so on? Not sure.....but I doubt it. Oh and Harbor Freight is having another HUGE SIDEWALK sale this week! I love tool sales!

Yawwwwwwwn...

"No evidence of Tariffs in the pricing so far".... JO

" They Sky is falling! " ..... Henny Penny

OH and BTW....Walmart is doing so poorly with the Tariffs that the Walton familiy's worth is going up right now by 4 Million bucks an hour. Trade war? Yeah...um.... not so much.

JO
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Trump keeps pussying out when it comes times to actually enact the tarriffs on consumer goods.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/15/trump-delays-tariffs-help-consumers-after-saying-tariffs-would-not-hurt-consumers/
 
justoffal

justoffal

Senator
Dawg said:
Read the other day the family of WalMart makes $100million a day!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/the-family-that-owns-walmart-makes-dollar100-million-every-day/vi-AAFO1lO

Appears many people are shopping
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So far the middleman vendors are sucking up the tariffs. There's still enough profit margin in it for them to pay the tariffs without raising the end good price. and the American consumer market is still the largest place on Earth to sell an item. Hell with that kind of access vendors should pay for it as a matter of normal business practice.

Jo
 
Emily

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
justoffal said:
the American consumer market is still the largest place on Earth to sell an item.
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That's been Trump's approach to trade all along - The USA is the largest, richest market in the world so we have power and leverage in trade dealings that should be exercised. Why is he excoriated for that?
 
J

Jen

Senator
justoffal said:
I don't go to Walmart very often even though there is a super center about two miles from my house; but I thought I would go to see for myself the horror of rising prices due to the so called trade war ( there really is no such ting as a trade war btw) and this is what I found. NOTHING.

Walmart continues to undersell everyone in the area despite the fact that 80 percent of what you find on their shelves is affiliated in some form with Chinese trade. Bought a Mr. Coffee maker there that was two dollars cheaper than the one I bought there last year. Yeah....they last about a year of heavy use....but then again so do the 100 and 200 dollar models. Walked through the Black and Decker stuff....the Stanley Stuff....The Oster Stuff.....All made in China btw..... All of it is down in price. This is called real world information. The Mr. Coffee ....Coffee maker I picked up for $17.99 was the very same one I paid $21.99 for a little over a year ago. The Oster electric skillet I bought for $49.99 about six months ago was on sale for $39.99...so I bought another one to keep in the attic to replace the one I'm using now when it stops working.

Yeah....UM.....I didn't see any evidence of Tariffs on these things...

Chicken prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down ... Pork prices ( now almost wholly controlled by China ) Down.

Maybe I'm just not buying the affected goods? OR...maybe the bullshit about Americans paying for the Tariffs is just that...Bullshit.

Sure Walmart has threatened to raise prices....but I think they know better. After all they have Amazon Breathing down their necks....lol.

The prices that were up? All of your local goods like fruits and vegetables...way up. Not sure why. I know they don't come from China....Maybe the farmers are paying more for their Chinese products like machinery and so on? Not sure.....but I doubt it. Oh and Harbor Freight is having another HUGE SIDEWALK sale this week! I love tool sales!

Yawwwwwwwn...

"No evidence of Tariffs in the pricing so far".... JO

" They Sky is falling! " ..... Henny Penny

OH and BTW....Walmart is doing so poorly with the Tariffs that the Walton familiy's worth is going up right now by 4 Million bucks an hour. Trade war? Yeah...um.... not so much.

JO
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Little known fact: We have a locally owned (and quite large) supermarket here that has lower prices and more local product than Walmart. Walmart does have a few things that my other grocery store doesn't have so I make a quick trip there every so often. My local market is in Oklahoma, so it is obviously not nearly as fancy as I would like it to be (with a special imported butter and cheese kiosk and a well-marked section for gourmet wonders)..........it is in Oklahoma after all and it's a rare Oklahoman who knows his Kerrigolds from his Smjors.

I won't buy produce at Walmart unless I absolutely have to. When one smells the bananas in stock from 20 feet away, it can't be good. But I did become a proud owner of a bag of organic cherry tomatoes imported from Mexico once. I realized that the word "organic" might not mean what I thought it did and after that I couldn't eat the tomatoes at all.

We just need to be observant these days wherever we shop.
 
Days

Days

Commentator
ObamacareForever said:
Trump keeps pussying out when it comes times to actually enact the tarriffs on consumer goods.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/15/trump-delays-tariffs-help-consumers-after-saying-tariffs-would-not-hurt-consumers/
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justoffal said:
See that's interesting Trump keeps avoiding things that would hurt the little guy. Sure as hell can't say the same thing about Obama.

Jo
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Emily said:
That's been Trump's approach to trade all along - The USA is the largest, richest market in the world so we have power and leverage in trade dealings that should be exercised. Why is he excoriated for that?
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I've noticed that Trump does that also, he pushes the bargaining table all the way up to the moment when the tarriffs go into effect, he also revisits the tarriffs and removes or lessens them. He is doing a whale of a job, and the press is totally ignoring the fact.

But Americans can see the results. JO isn't the only one who shops at Walmart.

About the so-called trade war with China... let's put that in perspective; USA is #1 consumer of Chinese products... so what is this trade war? It is the USA, the customer, the nation that is buying, getting a better price. So, while the press lies and pretends that prices are rising from Trump's terrible trade war, you go to Walmart and the prices are dropping not rising. duh. If Trump slaps a tarriff on an item, what does that do to the foreign seller? They are forced to lower their pricing, or like JO said, the middlemen are forced to lower their margins. Of course the seller doesn't like it. But the buyer is an idiot if he doesn't get the best deal he can... and that's exactly what Trump said he would do and that's exactly what he's done.

Look, this is why the internet has discussion forums, so we can hold mass media feet to the fire. We did it at Slate Fray and Slate didn't like it; but that's our function, we dig into the truth that they are masking over.

great top post JO
 
O

ObamacareForever

Senator
Days said:
I've noticed that Trump does that also, he pushes the bargaining table all the way up to the moment when the tarriffs go into effect, he also revisits the tarriffs and removes or lessens them. He is doing a whale of a job, and the press is totally ignoring the fact.

But Americans can see the results. JO isn't the only one who shops at Walmart.

About the so-called trade war with China... let's put that in perspective; USA is #1 consumer of Chinese products... so what is this trade war? It is the USA, the customer, the nation that is buying, getting a better price. So, while the press lies and pretends that prices are rising from Trump's terrible trade war, you go to Walmart and the prices are dropping not rising. duh. If Trump slaps a tarriff on an item, what does that do to the foreign seller? They are forced to lower their pricing, or like JO said, the middlemen are forced to lower their margins. Of course the seller doesn't like it. But the buyer is an idiot if he doesn't get the best deal he can... and that's exactly what Trump said he would do and that's exactly what he's done.

Look, this is why the internet has discussion forums, so we can hold mass media feet to the fire. We did it at Slate Fray and Slate didn't like it; but that's our function, we dig into the truth that they are masking over.

great top post JO
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Have you seen the list of stuff that he has slapped tariffs on?
It's not really consumer goods. It stuff like space shuttle engines.
 
4/15

4/15

Mayor
Days said:
primarily steel and aluminum

tarriffs that would have saved those industries back in the 70's.
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Tariffs make things cost more to buy. Steel and aluminum were dirt cheap in the 70's and 80's. What killed the industries was the Bush recession of 2002 to 2010.
 
Days

Days

Commentator
4/15 said:
Tariffs make things cost more to buy. Steel and aluminum were dirt cheap in the 70's and 80's. What killed the industries was the Bush recession of 2002 to 2010.
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wow, nice try, but you couldn't have gotten it more backwards.

"Tariffs make things cost more to buy."
No, tariffs adjust price between nations.


"Steel and aluminum were dirt cheap in the 70's and 80's."
imported low quality steel and aluminum, was cheaper than domestic high quality steel and aluminum... you get what you pay for.


"What killed the industries was the Bush recession of 2002 to 2010."
The aluminum industry was knocked down, not killed, in the 80's and 90's. The Steel industry was knocked out cold in the 60's and 70's. Bush recession in the 2000's was more about losing manufacturing jobs, the textile industry disappearing, and the housing boom/collapse.
 
voyager

voyager

4Q2247365
China ships crap to Vietnam and they repackage it with made in Vietnam stamps/tags then off to your local Mart.

Xi is a backdoor man.
 
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