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Joe Biden on Healthcare: "We'll Make Sure it's Not Quality"!

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now_what

Governor
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"We’ll make sure it’s not quality. We'll make sure it's only affordable."

"And for folks in the working class ... they will, in fact, will increase their premiums..."


https://www.dailywire.com/news/50989/watch-biden-makes-disastrous-gaffes-while-speaking-ryan-saavedra

My god, when is someone going to put this guy out to pasture?

And to think... this white supremacist who can't even speak coherently is the current tip pick of the DemocRAT Party! Amazing!
Well, he is running against the most idiotic, unqualified, lowest rated president we’ve ever had...the racist sitting in the White House. I would think pretty much anybody in the country has a decent shot.
 

Barbella

Senator
"We’ll make sure it’s not quality. We'll make sure it's only affordable."

"And for folks in the working class ... they will, in fact, will increase their premiums..."


https://www.dailywire.com/news/50989/watch-biden-makes-disastrous-gaffes-while-speaking-ryan-saavedra

My god, when is someone going to put this guy out to pasture?

And to think... this white supremacist who can't even speak coherently is the current tip pick of the DemocRAT Party! Amazing!
He should be an embarrassment to the democrat party... except they don’t know how to be embarrassed.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Well, he is running against the most idiotic, unqualified, lowest rated president we’ve ever had...the racist sitting in the White House. I would think pretty much anybody in the country has a decent shot.
Anybody,even you would have a shot against Joe if the DNC had not already decided for you. You are stuck with this:

"We’ll make sure it’s not quality. We'll make sure it's only affordable."

"And for folks in the working class ... they will, in fact, will increase their premiums..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5098...isastrous-gaffes-while-speaking-ryan-saavedra

Is the overall third placed democratic going to say more? You betcha! Let's hope he and C. Booker get into a racial discussion.

We shall see if Obamacare raises my rates, I have already lost my original plan at 215.00 BCBS for Molina healthcare which is refusing to pay for treatment needed to get me well. They have used the allotted amount they will pay. Let's hope I don't need help again.

Well it's not quality or affordable and in two mo0nths we will know if my premiums will be jacked up. I am think gaffe is not the right term for his possibly accurate statement.
 

reason10

Governor
Well, he is running against the most idiotic, unqualified, lowest rated president we’ve ever had...the racist sitting in the White House. I would think pretty much anybody in the country has a decent shot.
Nope. He's not running against Obama.


He is running against the most honest, the most intelligent President in history. He's running against the greatest economy of all time, that was created simply by reversing Obama's policies.

The only racists are Obama's supporters. They are KKK level racist.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Nope. He's not running against Obama.


He is running against the most honest, the most intelligent President in history. He's running against the greatest economy of all time, that was created simply by reversing Obama's policies.

The only racists are Obama's supporters. They are KKK level racist.
Obama reduced unemployment far more than trump has. Obama’s approval rating by average is 9 points higher than the man you consider a Prophet. So there’s that.
 

voyager

4Q2247365
Which are you? And why not comment on the actual topic?
Biden is not Presidential material and Trump is not Presidential material. I am neither pot nor kettle and why would I want to be.

healthcare... single payer.

repubicans = disgusting

democraps = failures

Libertarians = will never get anywhere until they campaign for four years instead of one.
 
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Biden is not Presidential material and Trump is not Presidential material. I am neither pot nor kettle and why would I want to be.

healthcare... single payer.

repubicans = disgusting

democraps = failures

Libertarians = will never get anywhere until they campaign for four years instead of one.
Single payer... LOL. Why not just say full government takeover?
 

reason10

Governor
Obama reduced unemployment far more than trump has. Obama’s approval rating by average is 9 points higher than the man you consider a Prophet. So there’s that.
That is such a fcking LIE.

Employment today (and this is good paying jobs, not McDonalds flipper jobs) are at a 17 year high and they ALL are a result of Trump reversing Obama's policies.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/
For eight years, President Obama presided over the worst economic recovery in modern times. For six years, he blamed Republicans in Congress for thwarting his spending agenda and hampering growth. In his last two years in office, he claimed that 2% growth was the best we could hope for. And in his last year in office, while the economy was again stalling out, Obama claimed that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation would only make things worse.

But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that


You're wrong again, Skippy. Obama was the worst president in history, with the worst job numbers, the HIGHEST food stamp usage and and the slowest recovery in history. And none of those dumbass lying Politifuck sites will change the facts.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
That is such a fcking LIE.

Employment today (and this is good paying jobs, not McDonalds flipper jobs) are at a 17 year high and they ALL are a result of Trump reversing Obama's policies.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/
For eight years, President Obama presided over the worst economic recovery in modern times. For six years, he blamed Republicans in Congress for thwarting his spending agenda and hampering growth. In his last two years in office, he claimed that 2% growth was the best we could hope for. And in his last year in office, while the economy was again stalling out, Obama claimed that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation would only make things worse.

But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that


You're wrong again, Skippy. Obama was the worst president in history, with the worst job numbers, the HIGHEST food stamp usage and and the slowest recovery in history. And none of those dumbass lying Politifuck sites will change the facts.
Wrong, it’s lower now, but decreased more under Obama. You didn’t know that? Wow. It’s very simple to look up, are you unable to do so?
 

reason10

Governor
"We’ll make sure it’s not quality. We'll make sure it's only affordable."

"And for folks in the working class ... they will, in fact, will increase their premiums..."


https://www.dailywire.com/news/50989/watch-biden-makes-disastrous-gaffes-while-speaking-ryan-saavedra

My god, when is someone going to put this guy out to pasture?

And to think... this white supremacist who can't even speak coherently is the current tip pick of the DemocRAT Party! Amazing!
If you're wondering how Joe BITE ME managed to step in THAT pile of shitt so easily, it has to do with something Ben Shapiro has been saying for the past year about health care.

He said there are three aspects of a national health care system: Universality, affordability, and quality. And he said you can't have all three. If it's affordable, the quality will suffer, (unless massive market forces are introduced.) If it's quality, there is no universality, because not everyone can afford a million dollar heart transplant. If it's universal, then you KNOW quality is out the window and rationing is only a few yards behind.

BITE ME obviously was responding to that discussion when he said no quality but affordability. He was essentially correct. If it's affordable (with a pool of people paying $10 a month), you aren't going to get $100,000 cancer treatments. The math just doesn't add up. And he was honest about the fact that folks in the working class WILL see their premiums increased. That was a moment of unusual honesty from him.

There is another alternative. Maybe, just MAYBE, some Congress might grow some testicles and insert some MARKET FORCES into health care. Maybe Congress should haul some doctors before a committee and grill them on price gouging, (just like the Democrats do oil company execs, every time gasoline goes up a nickel a gallon.) Maybe Congress should haul university deans and managers before that same committee and grill them about price gouging in tuitions. ($200,000 to become a doctor? Seriously)

Deregulation certainly would be a good idea. Maybe allow insurance companies to sell across state lines. Maybe less government involved in patents and new procedures. Maybe some tax cuts or even total tax exemptions for equipment companies who could compete on such high priced items like $10 MILLION MRI machines. If a MILLION DOLLAR COMPUTER from the sixties wind up costing less than $100 in the 21st Century, why not let the market bring the cost of these items down.

Obviously, my way involves extra work, educating the public on the concepts of these actions and losing to idiots who play politics.
 

reason10

Governor
Wrong, it’s lower now, but decreased more under Obama. You didn’t know that? Wow. It’s very simple to look up, are you unable to do so?
Asked and answered. The link I just provided is one such look up. If you are too stupid to read it, I'm not to blame.
https://www.industryweek.com/talent/us-job-openings-hit-record-quit-rate-reaches-17-year-high

U.S. Job Openings Hit Record, as Quit Rate Reaches 17-Year High

And Trump produced this miracle (that the Obama swore would require a magic wand, or did you fcking forget that dumbass remark) in TWO YEARS. Yes, perhaps a lot of people got hired in EIGHT years under that clown, but TODAY'S numbers are the highest in 17 years and they are DESPITE the best efforts of that bozo.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Asked and answered. The link I just provided is one such look up. If you are too stupid to read it, I'm not to blame.
https://www.industryweek.com/talent/us-job-openings-hit-record-quit-rate-reaches-17-year-high

U.S. Job Openings Hit Record, as Quit Rate Reaches 17-Year High

And Trump produced this miracle (that the Obama swore would require a magic wand, or did you fcking forget that dumbass remark) in TWO YEARS. Yes, perhaps a lot of people got hired in EIGHT years under that clown, but TODAY'S numbers are the highest in 17 years and they are DESPITE the best efforts of that bozo.
LOL, cute. Now for the facts. Actual numbers.

Trump:
JAN 2017 - 4.7%
Today - 3.7%
Difference - 1.0%

Obama:
JAN 2009 - 7.9%
JAN 2017 - 4.7%
Difference - 3.2%

Trump will need to reduce it to 1.5% to match the reduction that Obama made.

Ouch. : ). You lose again.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/national-employment-monthly-update.aspx
 

Nostra

Governor
Wrong, it’s lower now, but decreased more under Obama. You didn’t know that? Wow. It’s very simple to look up, are you unable to do so?
Barry Hussein came in at the end of a massive recession where millions lost their jobs. An improvement in unemployment numbers was a given. Barry’s recovery was the worst ever.
 
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