funny, you never whine or complain when it's NOT a Trump thread, and the resident liberals try to turn it into one. Why is that?What bothers me is the constant redirection whenever Trump is mentioned.
funny, you never whine or complain when it's NOT a Trump thread, and the resident liberals try to turn it into one. Why is that?What bothers me is the constant redirection whenever Trump is mentioned.
that's just completely different and shit, right liberals? I mean, withholding money from a foreign government, to get them to do what you want?
An unnamed source brought out the truth about Nixon and eventually forced him to resign.UNNAMED sources suck.
I don't whine Or complain, I make observations. I don't even put a reply in to most of these threads just because of this shit. After the redirect comes the personal attack to change the subject. Same o same o.funny, you never whine or complain when it's NOT a Trump thread, and the resident liberals try to turn it into one. Why is that?
i would never go crying to any moderator about anything some trump voter said, who gives a shit? but a lot of trump voters cry about "thread derailment" even when it is just comparing some petty bitch about a democrat to a real example of trump being a lying corrupt piece of shit as in this case.LOL! You would report me for thread jacking, if only I had actually done so. That's pretty low class, even for a lefty.
ALL Ukrainian pols and bureaucrats are corrupt! Ukraine is the poster country for official corruption. To pretend otherwise is laughingly self-serving. So yes, he was corrupt.
But here's a question your "impartial" EU viewpoint seems to have missed - why was Biden the guy who had to deliver the ultimatum? There was no one in the State Department who could have done it to avoid the appearance of impropriety? Do you suppose they were unaware that Biden's son was being investigated? That is absurd! Under the circumstances ANYONE but Joe should have been the messenger.
no, inaccurate or lying sources suck. the unnamed whistleblower telling the truth about what a corrupt slimeball Trump is, is a hero..UNNAMED sources suck.
I'm certainly no Trump supporter. I find the bulk of his political positions odious, not to mention he is a miscreant. But if we're going to look into Trump's seedy moves, lets agree to also look at Biden's (and the Clintons') as well, are you with me?
I understand perfectly. Regardless of the circumstances, anyone interested in good governance would admit that ANYONE but Joe Biden would have been the proper person to lower the boom on this guy. As it is, it looks like Joe might have been free lancing, because, again, anyone interested in maintaining the standards of good governance would have sent ANYONE but Joe Biden to deliver that message. Unless, of course, the Obama Administration had no idea that the guy was looking into Hunter Biden's shady deal. Which if true only suggests more strongly that Joe was representing his son, and not the American people.i would never go crying to any moderator about anything some trump voter said, who gives a shit? but a lot of trump voters cry about "thread derailment" even when it is just comparing some petty bitch about a democrat to a real example of trump being a lying corrupt piece of shit as in this case.
try to understand- the US and the EU wanted that slimeball "prosecutor" out because he was corrupt and let others in the Ukraine be corrupt, and he was holding back any US or EU investment in that country because it was being used to enrich already rich ass-holes with connections instead of improving the country.....they wanted the prosecutor to investigate MORE not less!! what trump and rudy did is turn it upside down and say biden was trying to get the guy to prosecute LESS...the article I sourced did not even mention biden or his son, because it was not relevant!!
The hell he was. He was a private citizen sent to entrap the Trump people in the appearance of "Russian collusion."Right he was an FBI informant. What does that have to do with Guliani?
what really keeps getting glossed over is it never happened that way. Even the Ukrainian foreign minister, works for the guy on the other end of the call, says there was no pressure from Trump to do anything...What keeps getting glossed over in this is Trump telling the Ukrainian to work with Giuliani. Giuliani wasn’t there on behalf of the U.S. Giuliani isn’t with the State Department,NSA,FBI,DOJ,CIA etc. He was/is Trump’s private lawyer and this was a threat to withhold US military aid funds for a completely private purpose.
thank you for proving my pointI don't whine Or complain, I make observations. I don't even put a reply in to most of these threads just because of this shit. After the redirect comes the personal attack to change the subject. Same o same o.
what really keeps getting glossed over is it never happened that way. Even the Ukrainian foreign minister, works for the guy on the other end of the call, says there was no pressure from Trump to do anything...
Ukraine foreign minister defends Trump's call with Zelenskiy: 'I think there was no pressure'
“I know what the conversation was about and I think there was no pressure,” Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko told the Hromadske media outlet. "There was talk, conversations are different, leaders have the right to discuss any problems that exist. This conversation was long, friendly, and it touched on many questions, sometimes requiring serious answers."
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game, set, match. Winner....as usual, Trump.
What bothers me is when people get their shorts in a wad when one of their political opponents does something incompetent or corrupt, but then when one of the politicians they support does the exact same thing, suddenly lose interest in good governance.What bothers me is the constant redirection whenever Trump is mentioned.
call me when Trump resigns.An unnamed source brought out the truth about Nixon and eventually forced him to resign.
Except , they had one minor thing: Proof.An unnamed source brought out the truth about Nixon and eventually forced him to resign.