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FakeName

Governor
My take away is that PJ has become an unmanageable 'complaint factory' and the mods are saddled with reports from a ridiculous onslaught of whiners and moaners. Folks have been slamming the "report" button over every real or imagined slight.

Personally, I can't - for the life of me - understand how anyone gets so invested into ANY online forum to the point of "reporting" others rather than simply addressing them directly...but then I wasn't raised by loons to have a thin-skinned sense of entitlement.

This forum needs a "binky"/pacifier icon.

Whatever - I'm just going with the flow. If it were my domain, I'd tell the tattling hordes to sack up. However, I am merely a guest here. :)
There are hundreds of Forums with no rules or very loosely enforced rules.

Have you tried any of those?

I personally don't like them because they just descend into childish vitriol. Real adult conversation and debate is nearly impossible.

But perhaps one of those would suit you better. I doubt it though, you actually are one of the posters that actually converses like an adult most of the time.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Hi.

I noticed that @PhilFish @bttex @SW48 did not answer your requests.

I wonder why??
I disabled tag alerts long ago. I only saw this because I just scrolled this page of the thread. The OP asks us to read the rules and acknowledge that we read them. I did that.

A couple posters who made all this necessary, among others, decided to do the same crap in this thread. They have been banned. The bans could be permanent. That is TBD.

Reports are down,the post count is up. Some posters have dialed it back. It's questionable whether others have. More bans could happen. The rules are posted.

That's about all I have to say about it.
 
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Jen

Senator
My take away is that PJ has become an unmanageable 'complaint factory' and the mods are saddled with reports from a ridiculous onslaught of whiners and moaners. Folks have been slamming the "report" button over every real or imagined slight.

Personally, I can't - for the life of me - understand how anyone gets so invested into ANY online forum to the point of "reporting" others rather than simply addressing them directly...but then I wasn't raised by loons to have a thin-skinned sense of entitlement.

This forum needs a "binky"/pacifier icon.

Whatever - I'm just going with the flow. If it were my domain, I'd tell the tattling hordes to sack up. However, I am merely a guest here. :)
I disagreed with your thought that reports should be abandoned at first. More and more I tend to agree with you on this. I saw it as "helping" but.......... it turns out it's more like crying big (fake) crocodile tears and pretending to be offended. When someone can report our posts of disagreement as a "threat" and actually get someone suspended or banned.........then that ability to help, aka tattle.........should be taken away.

Why would anyone choose to come to a place where if we call a post "stupid" we may have issued a threat to another poster?

I agree with you on the need for a binky
and on the need to remove the ability to report other posters. Some here are not mature enough to have that tool.
 

Days

Commentator
Hmm..

No. It's maybe 5 posters that constitute the bulk of nonsense
So, consider this forum lucky, as we seem to be somewhat insulated from what has been political policy for the two major political parties over the past decade.
But I guarantee that the nonsense being generated by those 5 posters is in direct correlation with marching orders from the political party behind their posting.

*disclaimer:
my guarantees aren't worth two cents, but they sound good, don't they?
 

Days

Commentator
And some posters are racist.....but calling them that is a violation.

just sayin'
It is a violation to call the poster stupid or racist or ugly or in need of meds... even if that might be the case, you can not attack the poster, only his/her argument.

But now the problem arises when I attack an argument with an adjective that might just as easily be applied to the poster. If I say your argument lacks real world evidence; there is no doubt I am attacking the argument, not the poster.... but if I say your argument is stupid, I'm going to get reported for attacking the poster, even if I clearly was not intending it at the poster, because the adjective draws the poster into its reach of application.

It sucks, because it is a die-hard habit of mine to call all you people stupid; now I can't even call your arguments stupid, even though they are. I am so banned, there is no escaping it. My strategy to survive periods of enforcement is to ignore politics until the heat blows over. So, of course, Turkey invades Syria, Trump abandons the Kurds, the Kurds turn to Syria and Russia (how ironic is that?) and now we have NATO and Russia squaring off against each other in war. great. oh well, nothing to see here. It isn't worth getting banned over.
 

FakeName

Governor
It is a violation to call the poster stupid or racist or ugly or in need of meds... even if that might be the case, you can not attack the poster, only his/her argument.

But now the problem arises when I attack an argument with an adjective that might just as easily be applied to the poster. If I say your argument lacks real world evidence; there is no doubt I am attacking the argument, not the poster.... but if I say your argument is stupid, I'm going to get reported for attacking the poster, even if I clearly was not intending it at the poster, because the adjective draws the poster into its reach of application.

It sucks, because it is a die-hard habit of mine to call all you people stupid; now I can't even call your arguments stupid, even though they are. I am so banned, there is no escaping it. My strategy to survive periods of enforcement is to ignore politics until the heat blows over. So, of course, Turkey invades Syria, Trump abandons the Kurds, the Kurds turn to Syria and Russia (how ironic is that?) and now we have NATO and Russia squaring off against each other in war. great. oh well, nothing to see here. It isn't worth getting banned over.
"It sucks, because it is a die-hard habit of mine to call all you people stupid; "

"you people"?????

what people?

what group do you think I am in?

just curious.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
There are hundreds of Forums with no rules or very loosely enforced rules.

Have you tried any of those?

I personally don't like them because they just descend into childish vitriol. Real adult conversation and debate is nearly impossible.

But perhaps one of those would suit you better. I doubt it though, you actually are one of the posters that actually converses like an adult most of the time.
Thank you. I just struggle with the lowest common denominator ethic. If this forum has 4-6 (or whatever the number is) of constant abusers, the rest of the folks ought not be governed down to that standard. Quite the opposite.

Again though... I am but a humble guest here. :)
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
It is a violation to call the poster stupid or racist or ugly or in need of meds... even if that might be the case, you can not attack the poster, only his/her argument.

But now the problem arises when I attack an argument with an adjective that might just as easily be applied to the poster. If I say your argument lacks real world evidence; there is no doubt I am attacking the argument, not the poster.... but if I say your argument is stupid, I'm going to get reported for attacking the poster, even if I clearly was not intending it at the poster, because the adjective draws the poster into its reach of application.

It sucks, because it is a die-hard habit of mine to call all you people stupid; now I can't even call your arguments stupid, even though they are. I am so banned, there is no escaping it. My strategy to survive periods of enforcement is to ignore politics until the heat blows over. So, of course, Turkey invades Syria, Trump abandons the Kurds, the Kurds turn to Syria and Russia (how ironic is that?) and now we have NATO and Russia squaring off against each other in war. great. oh well, nothing to see here. It isn't worth getting banned over.
Just don’t call my arguments “fat”. (They are just big-boned...and they have a great personality).
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
So, consider this forum lucky, as we seem to be somewhat insulated from what has been political policy for the two major political parties over the past decade.
But I guarantee that the nonsense being generated by those 5 posters is in direct correlation with marching orders from the political party behind their posting.

*disclaimer:
my guarantees aren't worth two cents, but they sound good, don't they?

Dramatic stuff.

I'm like the paladin sent to thwart the evil doers..

Is that dramatic enough??
 

Days

Commentator
"It sucks, because it is a die-hard habit of mine to call all you people stupid; "

"you people"?????

what people?

what group do you think I am in?

just curious.
That is just my method of posting, it wasn't aimed at you.
 

Days

Commentator
Just don’t call my arguments “fat”. (They are just big-boned...and they have a great personality).
gal walks up to a guy in the airport
says to him
"you're fat"
guy responds
"yeah, well you're ugly
and I can go on a diet"

told to me by a fat guy
 

Days

Commentator
Dramatic stuff.

I'm like the paladin sent to thwart the evil doers..

Is that dramatic enough??
It's the cyber scene
... old hat, really.

you go, Phil...
kick ye old tyme ass
triumph and valor
keep your legs under you
quicksilver and all that white hat stuff
onward trepid trubador
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
but seriously. what group do you think I am in?
The Four Seasons? I gotta admit...as oldies go, I was always on board with ol' Frankie...

Wifey makes fun of me because I have a bizarre taste in music that runs from stuff like that to Anthrax and Megadeth. Ah well...sorry for the interjection...
 

Days

Commentator
I miss bb
you know, we have this cross-board view of recent posts that is awesome. On the fray, you could only be in one board at a time, but with our Recent Posts, we get to monitor activity on all the boards in the forum. Even with all that, the page doesn't push as fast as it did in Ballot Box, but look at all you were missing by being limited to one board. Granted, there was no way to keep up with the entire fray, but it really is possible to keep up with Political Jack... if you have the time to spend here. I'm not retired, I wonder if I ever will be retired, so I never got back to my suggestion of the Editor's check mark; I would love to do it, if only I had the time.
 

voyager

4Q2247365
gal walks up to a guy in the airport
says to him...
A woman from Miami pulled up in her Caddy to our little county store. She picked up some things and took them to the cashier. She said, " Boy there sure are some ugly people around here." This old guy (John D.) was standing by the counter and said, " That's right but at least they all go home in the Winter."




There was a meeting about banning him...
 
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