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The final Trump/GOP gambit: Since when is a crime a crime?

Bugsy McGurk

President
First they denied that Trump and his toadies asked the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. Well, that lie quickly went south. Illegally seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election? You betcha.

Then they denied that Ukraine aid and a visit to the White House was held up pending Ukraine’s agreement to publicly announce an investigation of the Bidens. “No quid pro quo!”, they screeched. Well, that lie has now gone south too. The beans have been spilled. Illegally placing personal political goals over the nation’s goals? Extortion on an international scale? You betcha.

Sure, Trump and his toadies took a run at attacking the whistleblower and Adam Schiff to throw up a cloud of dust, but that seems ludicrous now that the facts are on the table.

So, what’s left for Trump and his sycophants? We just might be hearing their last ditch “defense”...

“Since when is a crime a crime?”

;-)
 

EatTheRich

President
First they denied that Trump and his toadies asked the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. Well, that lie quickly went south. Illegally seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election? You betcha.

Then they denied that Ukraine aid and a visit to the White House was held up pending Ukraine’s agreement to publicly announce an investigation of the Bidens. “No quid pro quo!”, they screeched. Well, that lie has now gone south too. The beans have been spilled. Illegally placing personal political goals over the nation’s goals? Extortion on an international scale? You betcha.

Sure, Trump and his toadies took a run at attacking the whistleblower and Adam Schiff to throw up a cloud of dust, but that seems ludicrous now that the facts are on the table.

So, what’s left for Trump and his sycophants? We just might be hearing their last ditch “defense”...

“Since when is a crime a crime?”

;-)

“Get over it.”
 

reason10

Governor
First they denied that Trump and his toadies asked the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. Well, that lie quickly went south. Illegally seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election? You betcha.

Then they denied that Ukraine aid and a visit to the White House was held up pending Ukraine’s agreement to publicly announce an investigation of the Bidens. “No quid pro quo!”, they screeched. Well, that lie has now gone south too. The beans have been spilled. Illegally placing personal political goals over the nation’s goals? Extortion on an international scale? You betcha.

Sure, Trump and his toadies took a run at attacking the whistleblower and Adam Schiff to throw up a cloud of dust, but that seems ludicrous now that the facts are on the table.

So, what’s left for Trump and his sycophants? We just might be hearing their last ditch “defense”...

“Since when is a crime a crime?”

;-)
So far, only the Democrats are committing the crimes.
 

Colorforms

Senator
First they denied that Trump and his toadies asked the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. Well, that lie quickly went south. Illegally seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election? You betcha.

Then they denied that Ukraine aid and a visit to the White House was held up pending Ukraine’s agreement to publicly announce an investigation of the Bidens. “No quid pro quo!”, they screeched. Well, that lie has now gone south too. The beans have been spilled. Illegally placing personal political goals over the nation’s goals? Extortion on an international scale? You betcha.

Sure, Trump and his toadies took a run at attacking the whistleblower and Adam Schiff to throw up a cloud of dust, but that seems ludicrous now that the facts are on the table.

So, what’s left for Trump and his sycophants? We just might be hearing their last ditch “defense”...

“Since when is a crime a crime?”

;-)
Did you not read the transcript? Or is your programming hard wired?

Even Zelynski, the supposed victim of this "evil Trump plot to take out Biden" says you don't know what you're talking about. Watching you people is like watching a sitcom that isn't funny. No matter how much reality you're hit with, it's still not enough to break through your programming.

I have never seen anything like it.
 

EatTheRich

President
Did you not read the transcript? Or is your programming hard wired?

Even Zelynski, the supposed victim of this "evil Trump plot to take out Biden" says you don't know what you're talking about. Watching you people is like watching a sitcom that isn't funny. No matter how much reality you're hit with, it's still not enough to break through your programming.

I have never seen anything like it.
Isn’t that exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say after being blackmailed into cooperating with the president?
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Isn’t that exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say after being blackmailed into cooperating with the president?
Perhaps...………

But on the other hand, isn’t that also exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say if he had NOT been blackmailed into cooperating with the president?

Calling everyone who was actually present a liar if they say the sh it you imagined happened did not is not actually proof you are right, sorry.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
We know Trump and the WH lawyers FREAKED OUT and pushed Mulvaney back out to deny that he said what he said.

Won't work.
Too late.

Of course, Trumpies will believe that it's okay for Trump to commit crimes. They're authoritarians, you know.
 
Isn’t that exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say after being blackmailed into cooperating with the president?
Ah, the latest dodge: Zelensky was "in on it". Just like Mueller was "in on it", Putin was "in on it", Rosenstein was "in on it", Comey was "in on it", etc., etc., etc.
 

EatTheRich

President
Perhaps...………

But on the other hand, isn’t that also exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say if he had NOT been blackmailed into cooperating with the president?

Calling everyone who was actually present a liar if they say the sh it you imagined happened did not is not actually proof you are right, sorry.
You’re not counting everyone who listened to the call who was not the blackmailer or target of the blackmail, and you are ignoring the text of the call itself.
 

EatTheRich

President
Ah, the latest dodge: Zelensky was "in on it". Just like Mueller was "in on it", Putin was "in on it", Rosenstein was "in on it", Comey was "in on it", etc., etc., etc.
Whereas your position is that there is a massive conspiracy to make Trump look like an incompetent moron of a criminal, and everyone from Mueller to Comey to Rosenstein to Mattis to Mulvaney to Spicer to Manigault to Tillerson to Dan Coats to Don Jr. to Tucker Carlson to Fox & Friends to Giuliani to the entire legislative and judicial branches of government to Sessions to Haspel to Trump himself is “in on it.”
 

Colorforms

Senator
Isn’t that exactly what one would expect Zelensky to say after being blackmailed into cooperating with the president?
So democrats are going to pretend to impeach Trump for the next year (no way in hell they would do it for real) based the "assumption" that everyone is lying to protect the president, even the people who created the real time transcript and the victim of the supposed crime?

Talk about being divorced from reality. :)
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
So democrats are going to pretend to impeach Trump for the next year (no way in hell they would do it for real) based the "assumption" that everyone is lying to protect the president, even the people who created the real time transcript and the victim of the supposed crime?

Talk about being divorced from reality. :)
The House will impeach Trump before the end of the year. Senate Leader McConnell is already instructing his members on how to conduct the trial.
 
So democrats are going to pretend to impeach Trump for the next year (no way in hell they would do it for real) based the "assumption" that everyone is lying to protect the president, even the people who created the real time transcript and the victim of the supposed crime?

Talk about being divorced from reality. :)
Actually, they're going to pretend to impeach Trump for the next 5 years.
 

Colorforms

Senator
The House will impeach Trump before the end of the year. Senate Leader McConnell is already instructing his members on how to conduct the trial.
Not going to happen. Pelosi wouldn't dare allow the narrative to leave the house where democrats have control and can keep the "hearings" secret while they continue to leak juicy smears against Trump, and go to the senate where republicans can show the whole thing to be a sham.

Pelosi already signaled there would be no formal impeachment by saying there would be no formal impeachment vote. This is all theater for the left wing fascists to keep them pissed off until the 2020 election.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Did you not read the transcript? Or is your programming hard wired?

Even Zelynski, the supposed victim of this "evil Trump plot to take out Biden" says you don't know what you're talking about. Watching you people is like watching a sitcom that isn't funny. No matter how much reality you're hit with, it's still not enough to break through your programming.

I have never seen anything like it.
This one’s still in denial mode, denying the undeniable documented facts.

But it’s just a matter of time before ALL of them will be left with their last gambit...

“Since when is a crime a crime?”

;-)
 
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