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Anyone Watching This Taylor Clown's Testimony????

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llovejim

Current Champion
Son, spamming the board only makes you look foolish. I'm already well aware that Obama wouldn't help Ukraine with lethal military aid, to include Javelin missiles. We already know Trump has been providing Javelin missiles to Ukraine.
spamming the board with facts bothers cowardly gutless trump voters afraid of the facts. the quid pro quo is there, the do me a favor, the let my stooge rudy and my other stooge Barr come take over the investigation in your country and they will find some by god corruption that can help me win the next election.....and you call that spam.

wow. you really are ate up with the trump mania. the transcript just says Ukraine wanted to buy Javelin missiles, trump voter. that is not aid. got a link to trump giving them lethal weapons any more than what Obama did as Fox news noted here-

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine

The Bush administration gave the least amount of aid to Ukraine, compared (so far) with the Trump administration and the Obama administration. During President George W. Bush’s eight years in office, from 2001 through 2008, the U.S. government provided about $1.1 billion to Ukraine, government figures reveal.

Congress almost doubled the amount of aid provided to Ukraine during President Barack Obama’s eight years in the White House, supplying $2.1 billion.

The amount began to spike in 2010 -- the same year that Ukraine held a presidential election. But the biggest jump came between 2015 and 2016. In 2015, the U.S. gave about $314 million to Ukraine; in 2016, that skyrocketed to $523 million, 63 percent of which went toward the military.

The increase came almost two years after an incredibly tumultuous year for Ukraine, which was thrust into a violent revolution in February 2014 when pro-European, anti-Russian protesters marched in the nation’s capital, Kiev, ultimately overthrowing the Ukrainian government and pro-Kremlin leader.

Less than one month later, the Russian military seized control of Crimea and, via a dubious referendum, annexed the peninsula.

Lawmakers approved another significant chunk of aid in 2017 -- the first year of Trump's term, giving Ukraine $446 million. In 2018, that slipped to $350 million.

trump decreased the aid Obama had his last year....and 63% of the larger amount Obama sent was military aid...so shut the hell up with your goddamn lies.
 

Spamature

President
Holy crap, this guy's a buffoon. He doesn't know anything. He didn't hear the call. He wasn't in on the planning for the call. He testified he personally spoke to Zelensky the day after the call and Zelensky didn't have a problem with the call with Trump.

Overall, he comes across as a bloviating buffoon. And holy crap, what's up with Adam Schiff? This is the first time I've observe him speak for more than a few seconds. His eyeballs look like they're literally going to pop out at any moment.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/impeachment-public-hearings-live-stream-testimony-from-bill-taylor-george-kent-today-2019-11-13/
You cons do here what they are doing there.
I was dead on right about the GOP trying to muddy the waters.
If Pelosi leaves of the much more clear simple and indisputable tax evasion charge from the Stormy Daniels payoff they public is not going to be able to follow the ball as the GOP attempt their clumsy, disjointed, and beside the point, Globetrotter shuffle of irrelevant details.

It is much easier to understand that he paid off a hooker and then lied about it to the IRS in order deduct the cost of his hush money payment as consulting fees to Cohen, and he committed this crime from behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office as President of the United States.

Instead of diplomats and their opinions based upon observation, they would have clear paper trail with Trump signatures all over it, and seasoned criminal prosecutors as witnesses against him. Also Trump would have no power to block state officials from testifying like he does with federal officials.
 

Spamature

President
spamming the board with facts bothers cowardly gutless trump voters afraid of the facts. the quid pro quo is there, the do me a favor, the let my stooge rudy and my other stooge Barr come take over the investigation in your country and they will find some by god corruption that can help me win the next election.....and you call that spam.

wow. you really are ate up with the trump mania. the transcript just says Ukraine wanted to buy Javelin missiles, trump voter. that is not aid. got a link to trump giving them lethal weapons any more than what Obama did as Fox news noted here-

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine

The Bush administration gave the least amount of aid to Ukraine, compared (so far) with the Trump administration and the Obama administration. During President George W. Bush’s eight years in office, from 2001 through 2008, the U.S. government provided about $1.1 billion to Ukraine, government figures reveal.

Congress almost doubled the amount of aid provided to Ukraine during President Barack Obama’s eight years in the White House, supplying $2.1 billion.

The amount began to spike in 2010 -- the same year that Ukraine held a presidential election. But the biggest jump came between 2015 and 2016. In 2015, the U.S. gave about $314 million to Ukraine; in 2016, that skyrocketed to $523 million, 63 percent of which went toward the military.

The increase came almost two years after an incredibly tumultuous year for Ukraine, which was thrust into a violent revolution in February 2014 when pro-European, anti-Russian protesters marched in the nation’s capital, Kiev, ultimately overthrowing the Ukrainian government and pro-Kremlin leader.

Less than one month later, the Russian military seized control of Crimea and, via a dubious referendum, annexed the peninsula.

Lawmakers approved another significant chunk of aid in 2017 -- the first year of Trump's term, giving Ukraine $446 million. In 2018, that slipped to $350 million.

trump decreased the aid Obama had his last year....and 63% of the larger amount Obama sent was military aid...so shut the hell up with your goddamn lies.
It's Kabuki theater.
Far From the Front Lines, Javelin Missiles Go Unused in Ukraine

But while there is evidence that the Javelin sale has been a powerful gesture of support for Kyiv, the missiles’ military application has been far more limited. Under the conditions of the foreign military sale, the Trump administration stipulates that the Javelins must be stored in western Ukraine—hundreds of miles from the battlefield.


“I see these more as symbolic weapons than anything else,” said Samuel Charap, a senior political scientist at Rand Corp. Experts say the conditions of the sale render them useless in the event of a sustained low-level assault—the kind of attack Ukraine is most likely to face from Russia
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It's just another way in which he has had America bow to the wishes of Putin while pretending to stand up to him.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
yikes. wasnt he cleared following an investigation and the interviewing of over 500 students?
Yikes!! He’s a cocky little prick and it doesn’t look to me like he’s been vindicated of anything. Look at the date these articles were written. Leave it to you to defend another trumpie.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078476

https://radio.wosu.org/post/new-lawsuit-revives-claims-jim-jordan-knew-about-strauss-abuse#stream/

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/11/11/lawsuit-rep-jim-jordan-knew-about-strauss-sexual-abuse-during-coaching-tenure-at-osu?media=AMP+HTML
 

Colorforms

Senator
Holy crap, this guy's a buffoon. He doesn't know anything. He didn't hear the call. He wasn't in on the planning for the call. He testified he personally spoke to Zelensky the day after the call and Zelensky didn't have a problem with the call with Trump.

Overall, he comes across as a bloviating buffoon. And holy crap, what's up with Adam Schiff? This is the first time I've observe him speak for more than a few seconds. His eyeballs look like they're literally going to pop out at any moment.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/impeachment-public-hearings-live-stream-testimony-from-bill-taylor-george-kent-today-2019-11-13/
I don't know how I'm getting through it, but I have watched this farce all day. It's embarrassing.
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
You know what, the lamestream media sure doesn't see it/ report it the Trump way. They were ready for the clown show and are reporting it that way, whoops. So that 5-10% getting swayed sure looks like it will swing to the left. Maybe King Trump should not have bashed those reporters daily..................hmmmmmmmmmm - but no worries Fox will declare victory and the witnesses to be stupid, dim witted fools - like on here.

But we all know ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NONE, ZIPPO public opinion is swayed on here, even the "mentally ill" see that
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
I don't know how I'm getting through it, but I have watched this farce all day. It's embarrassing.
I agree, the GOP was an embarrassment to Trump - deflect, deny, clown around and look pretty lame - pretty clueless on what to do to stop public opinion being swayed. You don't think adults don't see the kid in the cookie jar denial - well he did it/ she did it last week, etc. etc.
 

Colorforms

Senator
I agree, the GOP was an embarrassment to Trump - deflect, deny, clown around and look pretty lame - pretty clueless on what to do to stop public opinion being swayed. You don't think adults don't see the kid in the cookie jar denial - well he did it/ she did it last week, etc. etc.
Well, since Schiff won't let them call witnesses, and cuts them off half the time in questioning the 2 witnesses they do have, derision and disdain for the process is really all they have to work with. In the meantime, most of the democrats are giving their time to Schiff who is acting like some kind of feudal lord over the procession.

If the country is supposed to think this process is in the least bit above board, democrats are going about it the wrong way. Talk about giving the impression of a kangaroo court.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member

Nice.


No, no. You're right, so right. He's associated with trump..so he's 100% guilty. You tell em.

Sad.
 

TBLee

Governor
Jordan is a smart-ass bully who turned his back while young boys were being molested by their coach. I don’t know how any woman or anyone in fact could find him credible.
Yeah yeah yeah...we have heard it all before from you. Jordan kicked ass today.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Nice.


No, no. You're right, so right. He's associated with trump..so he's 100% guilty. You tell em.

Sad.
You claimed he was vindicated but the articles I sent you doesn’t sound like it. On the other hand, since he is associated with Trump he is as innocent as a newborn baby. Try reading the articles instead of giving some half assed answer. He isn’t being accused of molesting anyone, he’s just being accused of ignoring something that they said he knew about.
 

Marcus Aurelius

Governor
Supporting Member
You claimed he was vindicated but the articles I sent you doesn’t sound like it. On the other hand, since he is associated with Trump he is as innocent as a newborn baby. Try reading the articles instead of giving some half assed answer. He isn’t being accused of molesting anyone, he’s just being accused of ignoring something that they said he knew about.
perhaps you should take your own advice.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
But he heard from someone else, who mentioned it while discussing it with some

….he had plenty to show off today, as he kicked some serious ass ;)
Yeah he’s tough just like Trump. All they know how to do is runoff their stupid mouths.
 

Marcus Aurelius

Governor
Supporting Member
I agree, the GOP was an embarrassment to Trump - deflect, deny, clown around and look pretty lame - pretty clueless on what to do to stop public opinion being swayed. You don't think adults don't see the kid in the cookie jar denial - well he did it/ she did it last week, etc. etc.
So, you don't like it whe politicians 'clown around'? You must have HATED it when Schiff-for-brains said this..."I have a favor I want from you though. And I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand. Lots of it. On this and on that...."

Complete fabrication, that Schiff-for-brains later described as 'parody'. You know... clowning around.
 
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