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Electoral College vs. Popular Vote: The Perfect Sports Analogy

middleview

President
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And Hillary campaigned & had OVER 70 Fundraisers in California alone.

Looks like she could have gone to some other battleground states- instead of enriching herself in a state everyone knew she would win.

Oh you didn't know she did that, did you ?


https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politics/hillary-clinton-california-fundraising/index.html

Kaboom
Fund raisers are not campaign events. Are you actually so uninformed as to think Hillary got to keep campaign funds for her own use?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
It did. That doesn't mean it's some corrupt system. If it happened every time, yeah (like with media coverage and who they favor).


We can just agree to disagree. You'd prefer a few permanent pro-Democrat spots to dictate to the masses. I prefer diversity of influence over time, no matter who wins the swing state.
Wow...nice go at stringing together a bunch of irrelevant crap.
1. If you were correct then we'd never have elected Nixon, Reagan or GHW Bush. They were elected by both the popular vote and the EC.
2. The EC got us two of the worst presidents of my life time.

Diversity of opinion based on the state they live in? Nice try at meaningless rhetoric.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You mean as opposed to maybe 9 or 10 major population centers? Oh hell yeah.
There are roughly the same number of voters in the top 100 urban areas as there are in rural districts.

The EC has overruled the popular vote just twice in the last 100 years.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Exactly, EC was fine until 2016

It's clear libs know not the difference between EC & Popular vote
No, the EC was not "fine" and there have been numerous attempts to fix it. It is nowhere near it's original incarnation.

“The general ticket system [winner-take-all], now existing in 10 States was … not [the offspring] of any disposition to give fair play to the will of the people. It was adopted by the leading men of those states, to enable them to consolidate the vote of the State.”
Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So 100 cities as opposed to the rest of the country. I think my point is made.
Yeah, if that is all ya got....

Rural vs Urban....are both around 20%.

Add to that the idiocy of assuming all of the voters in those cities are voting for the same party.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
No, the EC was not "fine" and there have been numerous attempts to fix it. It is nowhere near it's original incarnation.

“The general ticket system [winner-take-all], now existing in 10 States was … not [the offspring] of any disposition to give fair play to the will of the people. It was adopted by the leading men of those states, to enable them to consolidate the vote of the State.”
Missouri Senator Thomas Hart Benton
It will NEVER change in our life times
 
Yes...it makes sense per the Constitution. Perhaps the top post went over your head.
When the EC and the Constitution were ratified only white male property owners (like Trump) were entitled to vote. Like slavery, the EC has outlived any usefulness it ever had, and it is possible to ensure direct popular election of the POTUS without discarding the EC

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

"The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

"The Compact ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter in every presidential election.

"The Compact is a state-based approach that preserves the Electoral College, state control of elections, and the power of the states to control how the President is elected."
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
When the EC and the Constitution were ratified only white male property owners (like Trump) were entitled to vote. Like slavery, the EC has outlived any usefulness it ever had, and it is possible to ensure direct popular election of the POTUS without discarding the EC

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

"The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact will guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

"The Compact ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter in every presidential election.

"The Compact is a state-based approach that preserves the Electoral College, state control of elections, and the power of the states to control how the President is elected."

lol So Mob Rule. Which the founders didn't want.

So You won't mind if say Known huge red States- Say texas to N Dakota lower the voting age to 10? Wait, say 5.
And push their people to vote GOP. And render Cali and Ny Irrelevant, Ok. Go for it. lol
 
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