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Electoral College vs. Popular Vote: The Perfect Sports Analogy

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So ? See , Unlike my leftists who follow what their leaders want to the T. (less thinking involved)

GOPers can be more diverse.
As long as it brings power to the RNC, right?

Face it, you guys are lemmings and even your slavish repetition of Trump's insults is amazingly word for word.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
LA & NYC...…………..lmfao
LA Trump got about 30%.
New York city is harder to total. Here ya go. I don't know what counties are considered
part of the city. Manhattan hillary got 90%, Nassau Trump got 45%.


https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

Shoots holes in the myth that the cities voted 100% for one candidate. In any case, add up the votes in those cities you think are democratic strongholds and see if they amount to 65 million.
 
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Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
As long as it brings power to the RNC, right?

Face it, you guys are lemmings and even your slavish repetition of Trump's insults is amazingly word for word.
Weird you say that when 3 people said the opposite of what you say Trump liked.

You are terrible at this, if you haven't noticed. But you are good at projecting- since you MUST and I mean MUST follow the DNC in lock step.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Clearly then, I'm not the idiot, and you being insulting right off the bat is par for the course. :)
For those cities to control the presidential election would require all voters vote for one party. They don't, but you seem to pretend they do.

Can you show statistics that any of the top 10 cities vote 100% for one candidate?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Weird you say that when 3 people said the opposite of what you say Trump liked.

You are terrible at this, if you haven't noticed. But you are good at projecting- since you MUST and I mean MUST follow the DNC in lock step.
It would take a little research to know what Trump has said about the popular vote. On the other hand everyone knows when Trump tweets out that someone is a traitor, which is immediately regurgitated here. Trump tweets out that Vindman is a "never trumper" and that is repeated in posts here. No evidence of that, but none needed.
 

Colorforms

Senator
For those cities to control the presidential election would require all voters vote for one party. They don't, but you seem to pretend they do.

Can you show statistics that any of the top 10 cities vote 100% for one candidate?
Again, you make claims that are unsubstantiated by logic, and it would assume that all of the voters in rural areas vote republican, an equally idiotic contention. :)
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Again, you make claims that are unsubstantiated by logic, and it would assume that all of the voters in rural areas vote republican, an equally idiotic contention. :)
A contention I've never made. Clearly you think it is the voters of New York City against the population of the "fly over states", isn't that what you called the "republican" states?

As it is the EC discourages Republican voters in California and New York...there is just no reason to turn out. With the popular vote, your vote is aggregated with all others who believe as you do.

As is it we pretend all voters in a state have joined to elect the president...when that is false. And we weight the votes in one state over those in another. Electors are allocated based on population, not by votes. So if 2 people show up to vote for president in Rhode Island...then they vote as if the entire population showed up, which isn't even possible...not all are eligible to vote.

Nothing about the EC makes sense.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
LA Trump got about 30%.
New York city is harder to total. Here ya go. I don't know what counties are considered
party of the city. Manhattan hillary got 90%, Nassau Trump got 45%.


https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

Shoots holes in the myth that the cities voted 100% for one candidate. In any case, add up the votes in those cities you think are democratic strongholds and see if they amount to 65 million.
Do population now IT
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
It would take a little research to know what Trump has said about the popular vote. On the other hand everyone knows when Trump tweets out that someone is a traitor, which is immediately regurgitated here. Trump tweets out that Vindman is a "never trumper" and that is repeated in posts here. No evidence of that, but none needed.
So you made it up...………...why am I not surprised...……...
 
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Deleted member 21794

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Hey, great diversion topic ! States, Counties, Cities, Townships all decide on total vote count so why not the national election ? Whoops
Why not? Because smart people set up the electoral college.

Glad I could help. We'll put that on your ever-increasing tab.
 
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Deleted member 21794

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It might be more useful to focus on "winner-take-all" when discussing universal domination of US elections:

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

"The shortcomings of the current system of electing the President stem from 'winner-take-all' laws that have been enacted by state legislatures in 48 states. These laws award all of a state’s electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes in each state.

"Because of these state winner-take-all statutes, presidential candidates have no reason to pay attention to the issues of concern to voters in states where the statewide outcome is a foregone conclusion.

"In 2012, as shown on the map, all of the 253 general-election campaign events were in just 12 states, and two-thirds were in just 4 states (Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Iowa). Thirty-eight states were completely ignored."
A national popular vote would absolutely end up with more states ignored. There would be California, New York, Texas, Florida and maybe Ohio.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
A national popular vote would absolutely end up with more states ignored. There would be California, New York, Texas, Florida and maybe Ohio.
If you think you know how the popular vote would influence turnout...where is any supporting link to that info?
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
Wow...nice go at stringing together a bunch of irrelevant crap.
1. If you were correct then we'd never have elected Nixon, Reagan or GHW Bush. They were elected by both the popular vote and the EC.
2. The EC got us two of the worst presidents of my life time.

Diversity of opinion based on the state they live in? Nice try at meaningless rhetoric.
Thank you for your objective and unbiased opinions sir.
 
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