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Electoral College vs. Popular Vote: The Perfect Sports Analogy

Jen

Senator
In an NFL Game, there can be semi-lopsided to totally lopsided games where, by all quantifiable measures of flat yardage, one team out-performs the other.

Team A: 450 passing yards, 150 rushing yards.
Team B: 240 passing yards, 45 rushing yards.

However, that doesn't by definition mean Team A won the game. In this scenario, Team B won 31-17.

How could that be??

1. Per the current rule book of the NFL
2. It is not which team has more total yardage that wins, but who has the most points.
3. Attaining more overall yardage than your opponent is GOOD, it increases your chances of winning a game.
4. But it isn't what determines the outcome of game in the NFL rule book.
5. You might not like Team B, but you have to admit the statistical fact that Team B won the game.
6. If you think the NFL should change how a game is won based on who gains the most yards, the NFL rule book must be changed to do.
7. Until the NFL rule book is changed, NFL fans will most likely laugh at someone who claims Team A REALLY won the game.

Similarly...

1. Per the current laws of the United States
2. It's not which candidate who has more overall votes that wins, but who has the most electoral college votes.
3. Attaining more overall votes than your opponent is GOOD, it increases your chances of winning an election.
4. But it isn't what determines the outcome of an election per the Constitution.
5. You might not like Donald Trump, but you have to admit the statistical fact that Donald Trump won the election.
6. If you think the United States should change how a game is won based on the popular vote, the U.S. Constitution must be changed to do.
7. Until the U.S. Constitution is changed, U.S. Citizens will most likely laugh at someone who claims Hillary Clinton REALLY won the election.
Sorry.
Democrats won't understand your analogy here.
They still think hillary won.
You can't fix dumb.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Sorry.
Democrats won't understand your analogy here.
They still think hillary won.
You can't fix dumb.
Very few people challenge the election results. Instead, the logic of the electoral college is challenged. It is affirmative action for small states.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Weird you say that when 3 people said the opposite of what you say Trump liked.

You are terrible at this, if you haven't noticed. But you are good at projecting- since you MUST and I mean MUST follow the DNC in lock step.
heard anything from the DNC on this?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Uh Huh. They issue refunds ? LOL

She didn't need to go there 70+ times. (eye roll)
There are several options and refunds are one.
Whether or not she needed to raise money is an odd tangent. Whar is your factual basis for saying that...as if you ever have facts to support your opinions.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
LA Trump got about 30%.
New York city is harder to total. Here ya go. I don't know what counties are considered
part of the city. Manhattan hillary got 90%, Nassau Trump got 45%.


https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

Shoots holes in the myth that the cities voted 100% for one candidate. In any case, add up the votes in those cities you think are democratic strongholds and see if they amount to 65 million.
Who says cities voted 100% for one candidate?
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
There are several options and refunds are one.
Whether or not she needed to raise money is an odd tangent. Whar is your factual basis for saying that...as if you ever have facts to support your opinions.

Read the link that was provided.

Why on earth would someone keep going to California 70+ times to raise $ when the state is in the bag and you have almost a billion to work with ?

Maybe if she went to Ohio- Pennsylvania- Michigan 70 times- she wouldn't have lost.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
Dawg for one. The logic of cities controlling the election of the president requires that the cities vote as a block. Otherwise there is no point.
I did a search and came up with nothing. I call BS.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
Very few people challenge the election results. Instead, the logic of the electoral college is challenged. It is affirmative action for small states.
Maybe you're right. Let's see, who to listen to:

Wise, early Americans with forethought and principles...

or....

Today's butt hurt liberal cretins.

Gee, that's a tough choice.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Maybe you're right. Let's see, who to listen to:

Wise, early Americans with forethought and principles...

or....

Today's butt hurt liberal cretins.

Gee, that's a tough choice.
The EC they originally designed is nowhere near what we have today. Winner takes all didn't happen until 1836. In some states the legislature selected the Electors
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Do population now IT
Franklin county in Illinois was one of those that supposedly has 190% of the population registered to vote..

There are 39,156 people there as of 2016. In that election there were 13,101 votes cast for Trump and 4,711 for Clinton.

https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/illinois/

There are 25,445 registered voters there. Those numbers amounted to 70% turnout.

https://www.cookcountyclerk.com/service/presidential-election-voter-turnout-illinois-counties
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Sorry.
Democrats won't understand your analogy here.
They still think hillary won.
You can't fix dumb.
Big difference between understanding and agreeing. It was a dumb analogy. Mine was closer.

In any case....comparing the election to yards gained in a football game is too silly to spend time on.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
Maybe you're right. Let's see, who to listen to:

Wise, early Americans with forethought and principles...

or....

Today's butt hurt liberal cretins.

Gee, that's a tough choice.
Oh, the bigots that didn’t think minorities or women should vote? I’ll go with liberals.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
1960 World Series is the best analogy. There are runs, and meaningless runs.

Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_World_Series
Here’s another analogy.

Two teams play football. One team scores more points than the other team. That team wins.

But cool story, nutty. : )
 
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