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The most damning Sondland testimony is getting very little press

Bugsy McGurk

President
"As I understood it"

Yep, solid testimony there...from what I understand :)
Yup. Sondland discussed the matter with Trump on numerous occasions, and that’s his understanding of Trump’s position.

And that will stand unrebutted unless Trump testifies. Which he won’t, because he’s guilty.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Yup. Sondland discussed the matter with Trump on numerous occasions, and that’s his understanding of Trump’s position.

And that will stand unrebutted unless Trump testifies. Which he won’t, because he’s guilty.
Actually, Trump told him that he wanted NO quid pro quo. Sondland's testimony is inconsistent with anything that he claims he was told.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Actually, Trump told him that he wanted NO quid pro quo. Sondland's testimony is inconsistent with anything that he claims he was told.
You really should give that canard a rest. That’s what Sondland said Trump said after the extortion scheme was revealed. Just another defendant telling the cops he didn’t do it.
 

Colorforms

Senator
You really should give that canard a rest. That’s what Sondland said Trump said after the extortion scheme was revealed. Just another defendant telling the cops he didn’t do it.
So Sondland is lying too.

That makes everyone except Schiff and the leaker so far :)
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
So Sondland is lying too.

That makes everyone except Schiff and the leaker so far :)
Actually, I don’t think so. When Trump knew the jig was up he tried to cover his tracks by lying. No sensible, honest person gives Trump’s denial at that point any credence. At that point he was just another defendant denying he did what he did.

P.S. It is still striking how you have no problem with such hearsay. Sometimes. It depends.

;-)
 
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Yup. Sondland discussed the matter with Trump on numerous occasions, and that’s his understanding of Trump’s position.

And that will stand unrebutted unless Trump testifies. Which he won’t, because he’s guilty.
You're right. The only person to speak to Trump directly was Sondland. And Trump said "I want nothing" will stand unrebutted.

Too bad, so sorry!
 
Yup. Sondland discussed the matter with Trump on numerous occasions, and that’s his understanding of Trump’s position.

And that will stand unrebutted unless Trump testifies. Which he won’t, because he’s guilty.
LOL Bugs, your media sources are editing out Sondland's contradictory comments, especially the comments where he has admitted Trump asked for, are you ready? "Nothing".
And no, Sondland has not said he and Trump discussed a quid pro quo on a number of occasions.
You are grasping at straws, my friend.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Actually, I don’t think so. When Trump knew the jig was up he tried to cover his tracks by lying. No sensible, honest person gives Trump’s denial at that point any credence. At that point he was just another defendant denying he did what he did.

P.S. It is still striking how you have no problem with such hearsay. Sometimes. It depends.

;-)
And your proof of Trump "covering his tracks" when he knew the jig is up is.....?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
What should happen is that they subpoena Giuliani and Pompeo...let's figure out who told Sondland that the way for Ukraine to get the aid was to announce that investigation.

I'd also subpoena the State dept and Pentagon lawyers about their finding that Trump had illegally put a hold on the aid.

While nothing Trump has done may rise to actually writing up articles of impeachment...they could still issue a reprimand or censure for his actions. What could be worth passing to the Senate is Trump's tactics to obstruct congress as well as an illegal hold on appropriated funds.
Do you just make shit up or do you get the shit you post from other maroons who make it up. The idiot, Sondland testified, during Adumb Shitt's kangaroo Court, that no one told him that. He said he presumed it.
Also the stupid [Expletive Deleted] when asked who would benefit the most from Joe Biden being taken out, answered, Trump, He should have said the beneficiaries of Biden's political demise would be the gaggle of idiots seeking the Democrat nomination for their presidential candidate. Getting a psycho like Biden out of the race can only help them. It would also help restore a small degree of self respect to the country. Hopefully Biden will spend the few remaining years of his worthless life behind bars.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
One of the central Trump/GOP talking points, no matter how laughable, was that Trump demanded Ukraine investigations because he was concerned with corruption in Ukraine.

Well, Sondland’s testimony puts the kibosh on that hooey:


SCHIFF: And in order to perform that official act [a meeting in the Oval Office], Donald Trump wanted these two investigations that would help his reelection campaign, correct?

SONDLAND: I can’t characterize why he wanted them. All I can tell you is this is what we heard from Mr. Giuliani.

SCHIFF: But he had to get those two investigations if that official act was going to take place, correct?

SONDLAND: He had to announce the investigations. He didn’t actually have to do them, as I understood it.

Got that, sports fans? Trump didn’t care about the results of “corruption investigations.” He didn’t even care if they did the investigations. For his purely political, corrupt reasons, the only thing important to him was that such investigations be announced by the Ukraine president.

So much for Trump’s “concern about Ukraine corruption.”

Guilty!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/11/20/20974201/gordon-sondland-impeachment-hearing-testimony-biden-show-trump
Well, now, Bugsy, there's a very good reason this Most Damning Testimony isn't getting any press.
You see, Sondland, being an idiot, notwithstanding, actually told the truth, and the Liberal press cannot deal with truth. He testified that when he asked Trump what do want from Ukraine? Trump replied Nothing, then went on to say that he wanted Zelenski to do what he had run for office on, cleaning up the corruption.
Sondland then testified that he, Sondland, had presumed that Trump had attached a QPQ to the deal.
You clowns do realize that the Obama administration didn't give Ukraine one red cent in military aid, don't you? No, I didn't think so.
Trump was reluctant to give the money to Ukraine because of their history of corruption. That's why he held it up until the congress urged him to go on with the deal. I suppose the Democrats in congress wanted to help Hunter Biden keep his job.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Well, now, Bugsy, there's a very good reason this Most Damning Testimony isn't getting any press.
You see, Sondland, being an idiot, notwithstanding, actually told the truth, and the Liberal press cannot deal with truth. He testified that when he asked Trump what do want from Ukraine? Trump replied Nothing, then went on to say that he wanted Zelenski to do what he had run for office on, cleaning up the corruption.
Sondland then testified that he, Sondland, had presumed that Trump had attached a QPQ to the deal.
You clowns do realize that the Obama administration didn't give Ukraine one red cent in military aid, don't you? No, I didn't think so.
Trump was reluctant to give the money to Ukraine because of their history of corruption. That's why he held it up until the congress urged him to go on with the deal. I suppose the Democrats in congress wanted to help Hunter Biden keep his job.
1. Trump is a lying sack of shit. Why would Sondland ask the question in the first place? Why did Bolton say he wanted no part of it?
2. The Obama admin sent 230 armored humvees, counter battery radar and other supplies.
3. Trump held up the aid waiting for the announcement...he couldn't wait any longer because he'd been told congress found out and the hold was illegal.
 
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