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It's looking more like Trump will be reelected in 2020

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
1. Why wouldn’t you compare Trump’s record to the economy he inherited?
2. Good point, it is a bit silly to compare a stock-market recovery under Obama to inflation of a bubble already fit to burst under Trump.
3. Obama cut the structural deficit he inherited by 2/3.
1. That is fine - just use "apples to apples."
2. That is also fine, as long as you acknowledge that the stock market's performance while Obama was in office was simply a "snap back rally" and not a true bull market.
3. Okay, but what he "inherited" was a huge "temporary" deficit driven by recession and war, and then back loaded his "permanent" welfare spending so it wouldn't hit in full until after he left office, which allows propagandists to suggest (falsely) that he was fiscally responsible.
 

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
I have answered that question more than once here. If you expect a personal answer, then you are just outta luck. You're lucky I deigned to even respond to your stupid post.
Could you link where you addressed who will win the popular vote? I’m guessing you can’t and will disappear.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
LOL! Why would you compare Trump's first three years to Obama's LAST three years (or worse, all eight years)? Regardless, the job creation under Trump has been of higher quality, which is why wages are up for the working class:

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GDP is a flawed measure of the economy - it includes government spending for crying out loud, so growing government looks "good" by that measure. As does growing the non-profit sector (or educational social welfare industrial complex) that drains rather than produces wealth. Nobody, not even you I bet, unless, of course, you are a flat out Marxist, believes that growing government, education and social services is a sustainable path to a better economy. Industrial production is a better measure of the health of the private for-profit sector of the economy, because lets face it, it pays for all of the other sectors:

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Obama struggled over eight years to simply get it back to its pre-recession level, before it again declined - until Trump was elected. Now it is at a new all time high (and growing).

Yes, the deficits are a problem. Of course, when Obama failed to stanch the red ink, you blamed Bush. Now the deficit Trump inherited is his fault. And you conveniently fail to acknowledge the projections the CBO made while Obama was POTUS that showed the deficit EXPLODING as soon as he would leave office, because he strategically backloaded his spending initiatives to blow up on the next guy's watch. So it is mostly the socialist policies you champion that are driving the deficit, and sure, you can keep raising taxes to pay for it, but eventually your economy dies (see Greece). As usual, the leftist double standard is on full display here.

Your stock market measure gives Obama full credit for the recovery from the most oversold conditions in many decades, and compare it to Trump's performance where the indices have continued to rise from some of the most overbought conditions since 2000. Consult a financial professional if you don't understand the difference. And regardless, the entire stock market performance is a function of fed policy:

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So grading either's performance by that measure is a farce.

As usual, when a lefty tries to post on the economy around here, in about ten minutes I can expose them as an abject propagandist. Same shit, different day...


Occupy democrats memes ! LOL
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
I have answered that question more than once here. If you expect a personal answer, then you are just outta luck. You're lucky I deigned to even respond to your stupid post.

Popularity matters to we low I.Q. leftists. We can't get past that :)
 

EatTheRich

President
1. That is fine - just use "apples to apples."
2. That is also fine, as long as you acknowledge that the stock market's performance while Obama was in office was simply a "snap back rally" and not a true bull market.
3. Okay, but what he "inherited" was a huge "temporary" deficit driven by recession and war, and then back loaded his "permanent" welfare spending so it wouldn't hit in full until after he left office, which allows propagandists to suggest (falsely) that he was fiscally responsible.
Uh ... what welfare spending?
 

reason10

Governor
What did it say in 2018?
It said the Senate remained Republican, (mostly because Trump campaign for Senate Republicans.)
Republican incumbents RETIRED from the House and those retards from THE SQUAD ran almost totally unopposed. If somehow you're thinking the country just suddenly decided to go back to Communism, you're high on meth.
 
It said the Senate remained Republican, (mostly because Trump campaign for Senate Republicans.)
Republican incumbents RETIRED from the House and those retards from THE SQUAD ran almost totally unopposed. If somehow you're thinking the country just suddenly decided to go back to Communism, you're high on meth.
Don't be silly, subsidizing within our system is reserved for the aristocracy and concentrated capital.
 
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