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Impeachment is a complete fiasco...

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Ridiculous ... capitalism has always depended on massive state intervention including manipulation of the money supply.
There is literally no (sound) argument that suggests governments debase their money to abet capitalism. Every government that has done so did it in response to the adoption of unsustainable big government socialist style wealth redistribution policy agendas, going all the way back to the Roman Empire (and perhaps even before). What you are exploiting, for propaganda purposes, is the tendency of businesses to indulge themselves by helping themselves to the "opportunities" presented by a government willing (and able) to hand out free money.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
hate to burst your snot bubble, but trump is impeached for life. that is a fait accompli. even dumbass trump voters denying it like slugs will not change that fact. accept it and move on with what you call your life.
That's how it works.

 

EatTheRich

President
There is literally no (sound) argument that suggests governments debase their money to abet capitalism. Every government that has done so did it in response to the adoption of unsustainable big government socialist style wealth redistribution policy agendas, going all the way back to the Roman Empire (and perhaps even before). What you are exploiting, for propaganda purposes, is the tendency of businesses to indulge themselves by helping themselves to the "opportunities" presented by a government willing (and able) to hand out free money.
1. The dole has been an integral feature of capitalism since Bismarck’s time, to say nothing of the French Revolution. The capitalists provide the dole as insurance against socialism, to prevent workers from starving at so high a rate that they experience a labor shortage, and to shift the burden for feeding workers from private employers (especially small businesses) to taxpayers (particularly big business and the middle classes).
2. Overspending is much more often the result of war than of welfare. Capitalist war redistributes wealth from the poor to the rich and is therefore extremely antithetical to socialism.
3. “Big government” is not the purview of this or that ruling class. The size of any typical capitalist government of the last 100 years should suffice to refute this big lie.
4. When businesses organize state-financed subsidies for themselves, that is the invisible hand of the market at work reconciling supply and demand.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
1. The dole has been an integral feature of capitalism since Bismarck’s time, to say nothing of the French Revolution. The capitalists provide the dole as insurance against socialism, to prevent workers from starving at so high a rate that they experience a labor shortage, and to shift the burden for feeding workers from private employers (especially small businesses) to taxpayers (particularly big business and the middle classes).
2. Overspending is much more often the result of war than of welfare. Capitalist war redistributes wealth from the poor to the rich and is therefore extremely antithetical to socialism.
3. “Big government” is not the purview of this or that ruling class. The size of any typical capitalist government of the last 100 years should suffice to refute this big lie.
4. When businesses organize state-financed subsidies for themselves, that is the invisible hand of the market at work reconciling supply and demand.
1. Capitalists do not "choose" to implement or expand "the dole." They are extorted by the politicians into handing over a share of their profits to give the pols the ability to gain power over the masses through "the dole." And the pols continue to return again and again with ever bigger demands as they gain more power - like any common malevolent extortionist.
2. Wrong:
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3. Big government/big business has become a symbiotic relationship, and not one based in capitalist principles. Once the extortion becomes extensive enough the victims begin to seek some leverage in the bargain by banding together (merging) into ever larger entities. Then they can begin to extract their own "welfare" largess through bribery disguised as "campaign contributions" (or inside trading information, which, I might add, is illegal when you or I do it, but the congress has exempted itself from that law). Once that process gets rolling, we're not in Kapitalism any more, Dorothy.
4. Bullshit - the process I described above is in no way shape or form "the invisible hand of the market" - it is "one hand washing the other."
 
Didn't know what the Biden Rule was, did you ? Cute change of topic :)
I guess this means we can agree Moscow Mitch should hold off on approving any more judges until 2021?o_O(assuming he's still involved)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland_Supreme_Court_nomination

"Scalia's death brought about an unusual situation in which a Democratic president had the opportunity to appoint a Supreme Court justice while the Republicans controlled the United States Senate.

"Before 2016, such a situation had last arisen in 1895, when a Republican-led Senate confirmed Democrat Grover Cleveland's nomination of Rufus Wheeler Peckham to the Court in a voice vote."
 

EatTheRich

President
1. Capitalists do not "choose" to implement or expand "the dole." They are extorted by the politicians into handing over a share of their profits to give the pols the ability to gain power over the masses through "the dole." And the pols continue to return again and again with ever bigger demands as they gain more power - like any common malevolent extortionist.
2. Wrong:
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3. Big government/big business has become a symbiotic relationship, and not one based in capitalist principles. Once the extortion becomes extensive enough the victims begin to seek some leverage in the bargain by banding together (merging) into ever larger entities. Then they can begin to extract their own "welfare" largess through bribery disguised as "campaign contributions" (or inside trading information, which, I might add, is illegal when you or I do it, but the congress has exempted itself from that law). Once that process gets rolling, we're not in Kapitalism any more, Dorothy.
4. Bullshit - the process I described above is in no way shape or form "the invisible hand of the market" - it is "one hand washing the other."
1. “The politicians” are the administrative arm of capitalist rule. They gain power independent of the class they represent only when that class becomes too weak to rule independently.
2. The U.S. also happens to have one of the historically lowest debt-to-GDP ratios of any global empire in history, made possible by its postwar hegemony and the international advance hand in hand of peace and socialism.
3. Why not? Capitalism has always depended on the state as a major component of capital accumulation, providing money-making enterprises, and employment opportunities.
4. Also known as “voluntary exchange of goods and services.”
 
Coups are "third world banana republic." So, as usual, what the left accuses someone of is precisely what they are.
Coups are very american and utterly bipartisan, we just tried to and failed with another one in Venezuela, did you miss that one? And those Hondurans migrating? We did one there in 2009.
 

excalibur

Mayor
Oh and, of course, George also brought up the subject of (totally unsupported) charges of "Russian interference" in the 2020 election, which gave Nancy an opportunity to suggest (again) that with Trump "all roads lead to Putin." She even suggested McConnell is also in on the effort to allow Putin to run wild in our electoral process. It's like the entire Russian "collusion" narrative has not been completely decimated by the Mueller & IG investigations.


They keep looping back to 'muh, Russia', like a dog back to its own vomit.
 

excalibur

Mayor
First off, Trump's guilt is not obvious, if anything it is totally the opposite. To control the Impeachment or SCOTUS voting one must first control the senate, so what you are saying pure BS.
There is no statute being broken mentioned in either article of fauxpeachment. That is how hackneyed it is. The articles are a complete farce and they should be tossed.
 

excalibur

Mayor
This is not a real POTUS

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How many lies has he told since taking office?
Fewer than Øbama, only the MSM ignored them. You know, ones like, if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, every family will save $2500. Those sorts of lies by Øbama.
 
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ewer than Øbama, only the MSM ignored them. You know, ones like, if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, every family will save $2500. Those sorts of lies by Øbama.
I didn't vote for Trump or Obama, but there's no contest when it comes to telling stupid lies:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

"In 2017, President Trump made 1,999 false or misleading claims. In 2018, he added another 5,689, for a total of 7,688.

"Now, with a few weeks still left in 2019, the president already has more than doubled the total number of false or misleading claims in just a single year."

Now WHINE about the Washington Post
 
First off, Trump's guilt is not obvious, if anything it is totally the opposite. To control the Impeachment or SCOTUS voting one must first control the senate, so what you are saying pure BS.
Trump's own words convict him:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/09/politics/trump-ukraine-transcript-annotated/

"The President

'I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike…'"

"'The former ambassador from the United States, the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, here’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution'"
 
The trial will be over quickly and Trump will be totally exonerated. The only thing that might drag the trial out is if they use this to expose all the corrupt activities of the loony left and the corrupt deep state.
I think it might be time to do away with the FBI and put something new in its place, with very strict operating rules and more checks and balances.
Will you be supporting the call for witnesses like Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, and Lev Parnas or not? Why do you suppose Trump has not offered to testify in his own defense?
 
Fewer than Øbama, only the MSM ignored them. You know, ones like, if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, every family will save $2500. Those sorts of lies by Øbama.
That's why you have your own outlet, so that you have one that will do the same for Don.
 
I'll tell you what it doesn't sound like - capitalism. The fed has to force feed liquidity into the economy to keep it from collapsing for a very simple reason - you socialists have succeeded in getting so much of your agenda enacted that the private sector economy has been rendered unviable without the (soft) socialism of "free" money.
I'll tell you what it doesn't sound like - capitalism. The fed has to force feed liquidity into the economy to keep it from collapsing for a very simple reason - you socialists have succeeded in getting so much of your agenda
Socialists do not control the Fed.

"On September 4, 2019, the assets on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve stood at $3.761 trillion.

"As of January 1, that figure is $4,173,626,000,000.

"That’s an increase of $413 billion in just the past 119 days and the Fed does not seem inclined to turn off its money spigot to Wall Street anytime soon."

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/01/feds-balance-sheet-explodes-by-413-billion-in-119-days/

Marx predicted the havoc fictitious capital could wreck on real economies.

I think the effect that Wall Street speculators have had on the productive economy over the past forty years explains why intervention by the Fed is all that prevents another Great(er) Recession (or worse).
 
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