A question for Trump supporters...

[Mr. Friscus]

Who opened the beaches even after closing the schools?

I'm sure Trump called the governor of Florida and ordered him to open up public beaches... right?

LOL

 

[middleview]

I'm sure Trump called the governor of Florida and ordered him to open up public beaches... right?

LOL

Really? Can I quote you on that? I wasn't aware.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You are saying "Trump saved the nation" even with all the coronavirus cases and deaths we are having?
Doesn't look like he is saving the nation to me. He could have took this pandemic seriously from the beginning and he didn't.

The problem is, if you're going to rip Trump for not taking it seriously, you can't stop there or you're just a partisan hack. Pretty much all major politicians didn't see this coming to the extent that it has played out.

There is a world out there where partisan bickering isn't applicable. We, as Americans, were all betrayed and duped by China and the WHO, who lied and suppressed information that could have helped us realize the seriousness of this.

Let's all join together and fight back against the real enemy.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Really? Can I quote you on that? I wasn't aware.

In case the "LOL" didn't tip you off, I was being sarcastic.

You seem to blame any and everything on Donald Trump... didn't you blame him for beaches being open?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Did Trump say it was under control? Did he say that there were only 15 patients and that there would be none very soon? Is it possible that people were less careful because they believed him?

He was trying to reassure Americans while buying the bureaucrats time to get testing and mitigations in place. And the bureaucrats let him down. Did he misunderestimate the threat? Sure he did. But so did a lot of Democrats.

 

[EatTheRich]

On January 27, after four confirmed cases of COVID-19, South Korean health officials met with medical companies.

The officials told the companies they needed them to develop tests for the coronavirus and that they’d rapidly approve new tests.

A week later, the first test was approved.

In early February, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a coronavirus test developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

However, it would prove unreliable and mostly unusable.

Why South Korea Is Far Ahead of the United States in COVID-19 Fight

Experts say South Korea introduced testing and other measures more quickly and efficiently than the United States in response to the COVID-19 outbreak.

www.healthline.com

Like I keep saying, and you brick headed lefties keep ignoring - it wasn't "capitalism" that caused our delayed response, nor was it a lack of will on the part of our political leadership - it was the bungling bureaucracy that you people have championed every (over) step of the way.

Other governments managed to do just fine. But elect people on a platform of contempt for governance and, shockingly, it turns out that they are incompetent at governing.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Wish? For Pete's sake the Chinese and the WHO were lying their butts off.

Surely even you unreasonable Democrats don't expect him to be a mind reader!

And notice how the Democrats don't have anything to offer but criticism that amounts to an idiotic demand that Trump be able to read minds and know the chinese were lying?

Your dodge is noted as well. The thread question does not ask you to yap about others. It’s about Trump.

 

[EatTheRich]

It's not swine flu, of course. And yes, inciting panic is what your fellow death-cultists have been doing all along. Hoarding toilet paper for a respiratory virus? That's stupidity, encouraged and enabled by your fellow death-cultists, because you hate Donald Trump more than you love Americans.

Yes, it’s not swine flu. It is much, much deadlier and more contagious.

You know why people loaded up on toilet paper? They were reasonably apprehensive that they might soon find it impossible to go grocery shopping.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Other governments managed to do just fine. But elect people on a platform of contempt for governance and, shockingly, it turns out that they are incompetent at governing.

Yes, because as I pointed out, they didn't have the overweening FDA & CDC standing in the way. And you people are bitching that Trump wanted to streamline them. Sheesh!

 

[Colorforms]

You are saying "Trump saved the nation" even with all the coronavirus cases and deaths we are having?
Doesn't look like he is saving the nation to me. He could have took this pandemic seriously from the beginning and he didn't.

What we have is far better than a lot of the infected nations, and had Trump not acted as early as he did, it would have been far worse.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yes, because as I pointed out, they didn't have the overweening FDA & CDC standing in the way. And you people are bitching that Trump wanted to streamline them. Sheesh!

Yeah, that’s the problem ... too much research & development of therapeutic strategies. Maybe it was because they were “streamlined” that the CDC tests were no good? Just a thought.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Yeah, that’s the problem ... too much research & development of therapeutic strategies. Maybe it was because they were “streamlined” that the CDC tests were no good? Just a thought.

Obviously you think these agencies are run by political appointees. That is, in fact, not a fact. Maybe you could point to other government efforts that were run competently and efficiently - start with the green energy "investments," Obamacare, "shovel ready jobs"...go!

 

[EatTheRich]

Obviously you think these agencies are run by political appointees. That is, in fact, not a fact. Maybe you could point to other government efforts that were run competently and efficiently - start with the green energy "investments," Obamacare, "shovel ready jobs"...go!

Yeah, they are. Certainly in this day and age they are.

Ok, how about social security? Medicare? Rural electrification? How about Cuban public health? Vietnam’s COVId relief? Or their whole COVId response?

 

[marvin martian]

Yeah, they are. Certainly in this day and age they are.

Ok, how about social security? Medicare? Rural electrification? How about Cuban public health? Vietnam’s COVId relief? Or their whole COVId response?

Says the fake commie who's far too chickenshit to ever live in a place like that.

No, you like it just fine in your wealthy, white, American neighborhood, don't you?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Yeah, they are. Certainly in this day and age they are.

Ok, how about social security? Medicare? Rural electrification? How about Cuban public health? Vietnam’s COVId relief? Or their whole COVId response?

Social security and medicare are broke! Rural electrification? I thought you guys were against energy use. LOL! Obesity is the main factor in covid-19 mortality and the Cubans and Vietnamese are STARVING!

 

[EatTheRich]

Says the fake commie who's far too chickenshit to ever live in a place like that.

No, you like it just fine in your wealthy, white, American neighborhood, don't you?

I don’t live in a wealthy neighborhood or a white neighborhood. And live where? Vietnam? The emerging colony that became the 4th- (South Vietnam) and 5th- (North Vietnam) most heavily bombed countries in the world?

Good thing they have socialism or they’d be really screwed ...

 

[EatTheRich]

Social security and medicare are broke! Rural electrification? I thought you guys were against energy use. LOL! Obesity is the main factor in covid-19 mortality and the Cubans and Vietnamese are STARVING!

Social security and Medicare have had their funding cut, you mean. Not because they weren’t working for the working class, but because they were.

For energy conservation does not mean against widespread access to the modern lifestyle made possible by the government’s rural electrification program.

Heart disease, the #1 killer in Cuba, is the co-morbidity most associated with COVId deaths.

No one in Cuba and very few in Vietnam are starving. Cuba has an obesity rate of 24.6% (compared with 39.6% in the U.S. and 3.6% in Vietnam). If people are not dying in Cuba it is not because there are not obese people there, as you absurdly suggest; it is because there are no infections.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Social security and Medicare have had their funding cut, you mean. Not because they weren’t working for the working class, but because they were.

For energy conservation does not mean against widespread access to the modern lifestyle made possible by the government’s rural electrification program.

Heart disease, the #1 killer in Cuba, is the co-morbidity most associated with COVId deaths.

No one in Cuba and very few in Vietnam are starving. Cuba has an obesity rate of 24.6% (compared with 39.6% in the U.S. and 3.6% in Vietnam). If people are not dying in Cuba it is not because there are not obese people there, as you absurdly suggest; it is because there are no infections.

Their funding has gone nowhere but up, so that is a lie.

The idea that if the government hadn't brought electricity to rural areas they would be in the dark to this day is insipid.

No, OBESITY is. If you are obese, and have heart problems, your chances of surviving coronavirus is essentially nil. Elderly people who are not obese (and have no other co-morbidities) actually survive it just fine (here as well as in Cuba). There are no infections there because nobody travels TO Cuba...they LEAVE!

 

[EatTheRich]

Their funding has gone nowhere but up, so that is a lie.

The idea that if the government hadn't brought electricity to rural areas they would be in the dark to this day is insipid.

No, OBESITY is. If you are obese, and have heart problems, your chances of surviving coronavirus is essentially nil. Elderly people who are not obese (and have no other co-morbidities) actually survive it just fine (here as well as in Cuba). There are no infections there because nobody travels TO Cuba...they LEAVE!

60,000 Americans go to Cuba every year ... including about 1,000 who do it legally.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

60,000 Americans go to Cuba every year ... including about 1,000 who do it legally.

I rest my case.