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Abortion ban reaction: Democrats erupt, Republicans stay quiet.

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Drumcollie, May 16, 2019.

  1. Drumcollie

    Drumcollie Ending Racism with or without Hillary

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    An Alabama bill intended to test whether President Trump’s Supreme Court appointees will allow for the banning of abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, threatened Wednesday to reshape the dynamics of the 2020 election.

    Democrats erupted with loud and sustained outrage in an effort to reclaim the upper hand on a politically sensitive issue that has recently found them on the defensive after liberal states proposed extending protections for abortions late in pregnancy.

    Republicans leaders, by contrast, spent much of the day avoiding questions about the Alabama law, wary of being dragged into a debate over whether to refuse rape and incest victims the option of abortion following forced pregnancies.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-the-2020-election/ar-AABp5b6?ocid=spartandhp

    It's funny how democratics see children and Republicans see children.

    Democratics see children as a disease.

    Democratics see it as a way to kill black babies.

    The last baby killed may have the next Barack Obama or Dr. King.

    One does have to wonder why no abortion clinics in wealthy white neighborhoods.
     
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  2. Sickofleft

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    The faux shock of the Democrats is what kills me. What did they really think was going to happen when States like NY passed the infanticide bills? When your party's answer to Gosnell was just simply make what he did legal?

    Did you really think a legislature in another State who feels the exact opposite would not ban all abortions?

    Morons.
     
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  3. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    what in the hell are you talking about? there is no one that supports killing babies. there are no babies killed during a legal elective abortion. what kind of hillbilly heroin could make anyone believe either of those two outrageous lies?
     
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  4. llovejim

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    only right wing trump stooges believe the lies about any infanticide laws coming from anyone....how can anybody believe any party would go on record as being for killing infants? even a trump stooge has to know how insanely stupid it is to believe infowars or whatever crazy ass fake news site that called that law an infanticide law was being accurate at all to what the law actually said.

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    Donald Trump repeats, falsely, that doctors, mothers decide - PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/.../donald-trump-repeats-falsely-doctors-mothers-decid/
    Claim: With a late-term abortion, "the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother...

    Claimed by: Donald Trump
    Fact check by PolitiFact: False

    Abortion foe makes false claim about NY law | PolitiFact New York

    https://www.politifact.com/.../abortion-foe-makes-exaggerated-claim-about-ny-law/
    Claim: Under New York's new abortion law, "If the baby was born alive, they would just let the baby expire."

    Claimed by: Michael Long
    Fact check by PolitiFact: False

    Fact-checking claims about abortion and the 'born alive' bill | PolitiFact ...

    https://www.politifact.com/.../fact-checking-claims-about-abortion-and-born-alive/

    Apr 19, 2019 - Laws already protect infants that survive an abortion, despite the claims of one .... "Responding to New York's Barbaric Abortion/Infanticide Law.

    Trump falsely claims Northam said he'd let doctors 'execute ... - PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/.../trump-wrongly-claims-northam-said-he-would-execute/

    Feb 20, 2019 - Asked if the legislation would allow a woman who is dilating to get an abortion, ... partisan charges that Democrats were endorsing "infanticide.

    The Facts on the Born-Alive Debate - FactCheck.org

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/the-facts-on-the-born-alive-debate/
    Mar 4, 2019 - S. 311, the “Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act,” ... as a 2002 born-alive bill had “reaffirmed” that “infanticide is already illegal in every ...
     
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  5. Nostra

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    Democrats are the party of infanticide.

    Abortion should be an issue for each state.
     
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  6. marvin martian

    marvin martian Senator

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    Well said. The obvious reaction to the monsters in NY and elsewhere who want to kill children for sport is to first recoil in disgust, then respond with an attempt to restore humanity to our country. I hope this spreads far and wide.
     
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  7. llovejim

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    Only people who do not understand the Constitution claim any constitutional rights are subject to each individual state to decide. Why not read the Constitution, or have some passing 3rd grader read it to you and then explain how federal law supersedes state law EVERY FREAKING TIME, especially when it comes to the protection of Constitutional rights of citizens that exist NO MATTER WHAT STATE THEY LIVE IN..GET IT?

    Only chickenshit liars claim democrats are the party of infanticide. I posted the world's most reliable fact checking sources that proved no party has supported or condoned infanticide, that there is an existing law from 2002 that expressly forbids a doctor from not treating a viable infant under any conditions, and still some chickenshit liars still lie about it even with those facts slapping them right across their huge gaping pieholes. Why do so many trump stooges lie as brazenly as gutless liar Trump?


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    Donald Trump repeats, falsely, that doctors, mothers decide - PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/.../donald-trump-repeats-falsely-doctors-mothers-decid/
    Claim: With a late-term abortion, "the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother...

    Claimed by: Donald Trump
    Fact check by PolitiFact: False

    Abortion foe makes false claim about NY law | PolitiFact New York

    https://www.politifact.com/.../abortion-foe-makes-exaggerated-claim-about-ny-law/
    Claim: Under New York's new abortion law, "If the baby was born alive, they would just let the baby expire."

    Claimed by: Michael Long
    Fact check by PolitiFact: False

    Fact-checking claims about abortion and the 'born alive' bill | PolitiFact ...

    https://www.politifact.com/.../fact-checking-claims-about-abortion-and-born-alive/
    Apr 19, 2019 - Laws already protect infants that survive an abortion, despite the claims of one .... "Responding to New York's Barbaric Abortion/Infanticide Law.


    Trump falsely claims Northam said he'd let doctors 'execute ... - PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/.../trump-wrongly-claims-northam-said-he-would-execute/
    Feb 20, 2019 - Asked if the legislation would allow a woman who is dilating to get an abortion, ... partisan charges that Democrats were endorsing "infanticide.


    The Facts on the Born-Alive Debate - FactCheck.org

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/the-facts-on-the-born-alive-debate/
    Mar 4, 2019 - S. 311, the “Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act,” ... as a 2002 born-alive bill had “reaffirmed” that “infanticide is already illegal in every ...

    huff gasoline.
     
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  8. Nostra

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    Unlike you liljimmy, I don't need lefty "politifact" to tell me what Gov. Northam said. I can listen and think for myself.

    The rest of your post is just lefty, flat-Earth science denying claptrap.

    In short, your usual.
     
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  10. Dawg

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    The father of the baby proves your chart wrong...………….get out of the hood and learn that
     
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  11. Colorforms

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    Well, we now know politifact lied about at least one of these assessments:

    Gov. Northam, a Democrat, was asked about the bill in a radio interview on Wednesday, and his response only added to the controversy. Appearing to discuss what would happen if a child was born after a failed attempt at abortion, he said, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/2/1/18205428/virginia-abortion-bill-kathy-tran-ralph-northam
     
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  12. llovejim

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    QUOTE="Colorforms, post: 2423586, member: 9039"]Well, we now know politifact lied about at least one of these assessments:

    Gov. Northam, a Democrat, was asked about the bill in a radio interview on Wednesday, and his response only added to the controversy. Appearing to discuss what would happen if a child was born after a failed attempt at abortion, he said, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    https://www.vox.com/2019/2/1/18205428/virginia-abortion-bill-kathy-tran-ralph-northam
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    You left off the part of the article that shows the governor was confused about other parts of the bill, too, such as how many doctors have to sign off to get a late term abortion due to the mother's health. he screwed up. he got it wrong. it is clearly against existing federal law, which supersedes all state laws, outlawing the obviously immoral act of not doing all you can to save any baby's life. He was thinking about a baby who had been delivered but had catastrophic health problems that made it possible for him to only be kept alive using extraordinary medical intervention, with no hope of a recovery...THEN THE DOCTOR AND THE PARENTS HAVE TO MAKE THE TOUGH CHOICE...that has nothing to do with a baby surviving an abortion....

    He sounds about as confused as Trump when he claims windmills cause cancer and climate change is a Chinese hoax.

    The author of the bill also mistakenly referred to what the governor was apparently referring to about babies being born with catastrophic defects, and in the article she said this-

    On Thursday, Tran told the Washington Post that she “misspoke” in her response to Gilbert’s question during the hearing: “I should have said: ‘Clearly, no, because infanticide is not allowed in Virginia, and what would have happened in that moment would be a live birth.’ ”
     
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    Leftist would really hate North Ireland, Alabama abortions law is nothing close to theirs and now I see above leftist making it racism...…...BS...….Sager did that when she opened Planned Parenthood and leftist approve of PP killing black babies.
     
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    Sad that cons hate women so much. Then biggest joke are the women that vote R. Obedient slaves to the men they must obey.
     
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    I love women and always have and you prove you don't know a damn thing about R women and the slaves are males married to leftist women.

    If I'm not involved and a woman wants to kill her baby...…...GO FOR IT...…..no skin off my ass.
     
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    you are a liar repeating bullshit right wing bullshit,. she was a believer in eugenics, and believed that breeding people who were superior would result in superior babies, but she was not racist. in fact, she opened the first health care center ever for black women in harlem a real long time ago. do you really think if Margaret Sanger was a racist, that Martin Luther King, Jr. would have happily accepted an award from Planned Parenthood named after her?

    Martin Luther King Jr.: 'I am happy to be the recipient of the Margaret ...

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    Margaret Sanger Award 1966 | Margaret Sanger Papers Project

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    Dec 7, 2010 - The Margaret Sanger Award is Planned Parenthood's highest honor. ... 44 years ago in 1966 and was awarded to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in that year.
     
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    So you’re pro-choice?
     
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    I'm 'it's up to the woman' if I'm not the father, I worked HUD Projects for many years and many women there shouldn't have had kids and I have a niece that damn sure shouldn't have kids. Abortion would have been a better option for the babies.
     
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    We are pretty much the same on this. Weird night here, I guess.
     
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