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Adrian Peterson

Zam-Zam

Senator
Adrian Peterson is a star in the NFL. He is the start running back for the Minnesota Vikings, and he has been indicted for beating his four-year-old child. With a stick.

The four-year-old in question is Peterson's son, and Peterson readily admits to the beating. Peterson was suspended by the Vikings for one game yesterday, and without him in the backfield, the Viking offense was miserable. They scored exactly one time en route to a 30-7 drubbing at the hands of the New England Patriots. This was Minnesota's hope opener, so the slaughter was particularly painful. And embarrassing.

Perhaps with that in mind, the Vikings eagerly welcomed Adrian Peterson back into the fold today, announcing they stand behind him, and that he will start next week.

Few things are worse than beating a woman the way Ray Rice did. Rice has been cut by his team, the Ravens, and suspended indefinitely by the NFL. He is appealing his suspension, but he is toxic and clearly persona non grata in the NFL. His viscous attack was caught on film.

One of the few acts that may be more despicable than Rice's beat down of his then fiancee might be beating a child. Especially one as young as four. Peterson took the time to equip himself with a stick to administer the beating. He had time to cool down and reconsider before he acted. He didn't.

In a perfect world the Minnesota Vikings would have the moral courage to stand up to the bully Peterson and tell him he is persona non grata, and set him adrift. The world is not perfect, and the Vikings are a horrible team without AP, so all that goes out the window. The four-year-old children will just have to fend for themselves as far as their organization is concerned.

Let's hope the NFL, whose reputation has taken a beating of its own the last few weeks, will step in and do the right thing. It's time to send the bullies a message. Even if they're the team's best player. Enough is enough.
 

connieb

Senator
Adrian Peterson is a star in the NFL. He is the start running back for the Minnesota Vikings, and he has been indicted for beating his four-year-old child. With a stick.

The four-year-old in question is Peterson's son, and Peterson readily admits to the beating. Peterson was suspended by the Vikings for one game yesterday, and without him in the backfield, the Viking offense was miserable. They scored exactly one time en route to a 30-7 drubbing at the hands of the New England Patriots. This was Minnesota's hope opener, so the slaughter was particularly painful. And embarrassing.

Perhaps with that in mind, the Vikings eagerly welcomed Adrian Peterson back into the fold today, announcing they stand behind him, and that he will start next week.

Few things are worse than beating a woman the way Ray Rice did. Rice has been cut by his team, the Ravens, and suspended indefinitely by the NFL. He is appealing his suspension, but he is toxic and clearly persona non grata in the NFL. His viscous attack was caught on film.

One of the few acts that may be more despicable than Rice's beat down of his then fiancee might be beating a child. Especially one as young as four. Peterson took the time to equip himself with a stick to administer the beating. He had time to cool down and reconsider before he acted. He didn't.

In a perfect world the Minnesota Vikings would have the moral courage to stand up to the bully Peterson and tell him he is persona non grata, and set him adrift. The world is not perfect, and the Vikings are a horrible team without AP, so all that goes out the window. The four-year-old children will just have to fend for themselves as far as their organization is concerned.

Let's hope the NFL, whose reputation has taken a beating of its own the last few weeks, will step in and do the right thing. It's time to send the bullies a message. Even if they're the team's best player. Enough is enough.

Sorry Zam. I have to disagree with you. The employer - the Vikings in this case have no business weighing in, like The Ravens had no business weiging in on rice. The league as far as I am concerned should only have rules on play based on criminal violations. I.e. - if he is convicted - he gets X. If not - its not their business and let law enforcement handle it.

connie
 

Arkady

President
Adrian Peterson is a star in the NFL. He is the start running back for the Minnesota Vikings, and he has been indicted for beating his four-year-old child. With a stick.

The four-year-old in question is Peterson's son, and Peterson readily admits to the beating. Peterson was suspended by the Vikings for one game yesterday, and without him in the backfield, the Viking offense was miserable. They scored exactly one time en route to a 30-7 drubbing at the hands of the New England Patriots. This was Minnesota's hope opener, so the slaughter was particularly painful. And embarrassing.

Perhaps with that in mind, the Vikings eagerly welcomed Adrian Peterson back into the fold today, announcing they stand behind him, and that he will start next week.

Few things are worse than beating a woman the way Ray Rice did. Rice has been cut by his team, the Ravens, and suspended indefinitely by the NFL. He is appealing his suspension, but he is toxic and clearly persona non grata in the NFL. His viscous attack was caught on film.

One of the few acts that may be more despicable than Rice's beat down of his then fiancee might be beating a child. Especially one as young as four. Peterson took the time to equip himself with a stick to administer the beating. He had time to cool down and reconsider before he acted. He didn't.

In a perfect world the Minnesota Vikings would have the moral courage to stand up to the bully Peterson and tell him he is persona non grata, and set him adrift. The world is not perfect, and the Vikings are a horrible team without AP, so all that goes out the window. The four-year-old children will just have to fend for themselves as far as their organization is concerned.

Let's hope the NFL, whose reputation has taken a beating of its own the last few weeks, will step in and do the right thing. It's time to send the bullies a message. Even if they're the team's best player. Enough is enough.
Generally, I agree with you, but, just to play devil's advocate, what made Ray Rice's behavior particularly objectionable is just how much force was involved. He hit his girlfriend hard enough to knock her unconscious. I don't know how hard Peterson hit his child, or what kind of stick we're talking about. I don't spank my child at all, so I'm not terribly sympathetic, one way or the other, but if we were talking about a switch that caused no real physical harm, I'm sure many would see it another way -- "spare the rod, spoil the child" is a very old saw. I know that when I was a kid, I was struck on at least one occasion with a ruler, in school, and I was none the worse for wear for it.
 

Arkady

President
Sorry Zam. I have to disagree with you. The employer - the Vikings in this case have no business weighing in, like The Ravens had no business weiging in on rice. The league as far as I am concerned should only have rules on play based on criminal violations. I.e. - if he is convicted - he gets X. If not - its not their business and let law enforcement handle it.

connie
I suppose that's a view they could take, but they'd need to do it consistently, and that's not how sports leagues typically operate. As a practical matter, the celebrity of the athlete is part of the "product," so anything that hurts the athlete's image potentially hurts the profitability of the franchise and even the league. So, even if the athlete does something that's perfectly legal but deeply damaging (e.g., going on a rant about how the Jews are money-grubbing Christ-killers, or saying that blacks are too dumb to play quarterback, or starring in a pornographic movie, or making fun of the fans on sports radio), the league is going to want to punish that. And the league ends up looking hypocritical if they punish athletes for some bad behavior (e.g., testing positive for marijuana), but not others (hitting their wives).
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Generally, I agree with you, but, just to play devil's advocate, what made Ray Rice's behavior particularly objectionable is just how much force was involved. He hit his girlfriend hard enough to knock her unconscious. I don't know how hard Peterson hit his child, or what kind of stick we're talking about. I don't spank my child at all, so I'm not terribly sympathetic, one way or the other, but if we were talking about a switch that caused no real physical harm, I'm sure many would see it another way -- "spare the rod, spoil the child" is a very old saw. I know that when I was a kid, I was struck on at least one occasion with a ruler, in school, and I was none the worse for wear for it.
This is one where the law will have to render a decision and judgement
 

Spamature

President
Grew up with a willow tree in the front yard. Sitting there waiting for it is worse than actually getting it. Also there is nothing like the feeling of betrayal as your bothers and sister gleefully search the tree for that perfect switch while you sit alone a condemned man.
 
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Dawg

President
Supporting Member
NFL hired 3 top females today to help them I guess become more feminine?

NFL=New Felon League......evidently.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Generally, I agree with you, but, just to play devil's advocate, what made Ray Rice's behavior particularly objectionable is just how much force was involved. He hit his girlfriend hard enough to knock her unconscious. I don't know how hard Peterson hit his child, or what kind of stick we're talking about. I don't spank my child at all, so I'm not terribly sympathetic, one way or the other, but if we were talking about a switch that caused no real physical harm, I'm sure many would see it another way -- "spare the rod, spoil the child" is a very old saw. I know that when I was a kid, I was struck on at least one occasion with a ruler, in school, and I was none the worse for wear for it.

I believe what made the Ray Rice incident a big deal in the eyes of the public was the video tape. If that beating had taken place behind closed doors, I think the general public would have taken little notice, and Rice would have gotten off with his two-game suspension. With Peterson, thee is no video, so the four-year old boy beaten with a stick isn't quite as fortunate.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Sorry Zam. I have to disagree with you. The employer - the Vikings in this case have no business weighing in, like The Ravens had no business weiging in on rice. The league as far as I am concerned should only have rules on play based on criminal violations. I.e. - if he is convicted - he gets X. If not - its not their business and let law enforcement handle it.

connie

I disagree completely. The NFL is in the entertainment business, and they depend on the goodwill of the public. If there message to that public is that we'll condone beating women and children, they can expect to suffer the consequences. That's the economic component- the real reason it should stand up to these bullies is that its the right thing to do.
 

Arkady

President
I believe what made the Ray Rice incident a big deal in the eyes of the public was the video tape. If that beating had taken place behind closed doors, I think the general public would have taken little notice, and Rice would have gotten off with his two-game suspension. With Peterson, thee is no video, so the four-year old boy beaten with a stick isn't quite as fortunate.
I think you're right that the video matters, but it could go either way. If there was video of the boy being beaten, but it looked more like the kind of switching many people remember their own loving parents giving them on occasion, it could actually help him. If, on the other hand, it looked like it was done in anger or was otherwise excessive, it could end his career.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
I think you're right that the video matters, but it could go either way. If there was video of the boy being beaten, but it looked more like the kind of switching many people remember their own loving parents giving them on occasion, it could actually help him. If, on the other hand, it looked like it was done in anger or was otherwise excessive, it could end his career.

We do know if left scars, enough so that an indictment was sought. Doesn't sound like a tap on the behind to me.
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
Its a legal matter and should be treated as such. If someone hits a spouse (man or women) then it becomes a legal matter. If convicted then a corporation policy should kick in, but up to that point what people do outside work is none of their business.

If they hired 3 women as stated, that pure bull shit, just what in hell are they gong to do?
Once again pure over reaction from a PC correct society.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
The plot thickens:


If, as it appears, Vikings running back Adrian Peterson didn’t see anything wrong with spanking one of his children with a switch until the boy’s flesh ripped open and bled, logic suggests that it wasn’t a one-time occurrence.


According to multiple reports, it may not have been.


KHOU 11 in Houston and FOX 9 in Minneapolis report that Peterson is being investigated for a second abuse case involving another one of his sons.


The Vikings reinstated Peterson on Monday after a one-game deactivation arising from Friday’s indictment on charges of reckless of negligent injury to a child in Texas. Stay tuned for more details regarding the second case.


Peterson is presumed innocent in a court of law. The Vikings and the NFL will be presumed inept and immoral in the court of public opinion if either or both continue to hide behind Constitutional protections that relate only to the deprivation of a person’s liberty and not to the privilege to play football in exchange for millions of dollars and worldwide fame.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/15/reports-adrian-peterson-investigated-for-another-abuse-case/#respond



Quite a hero this guy.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I believe what made the Ray Rice incident a big deal in the eyes of the public was the video tape. If that beating had taken place behind closed doors, I think the general public would have taken little notice, and Rice would have gotten off with his two-game suspension. With Peterson, thee is no video, so the four-year old boy beaten with a stick isn't quite as fortunate.
there are pictures and they are brutal.........of course I remember having the same from dad and lived.........that was a long time ago, if it was today, dad would be in prison.....I'd rather had the woppin' than Dad in prison.
 

Spamature

President
I believe what made the Ray Rice incident a big deal in the eyes of the public was the video tape. If that beating had taken place behind closed doors, I think the general public would have taken little notice, and Rice would have gotten off with his two-game suspension. With Peterson, thee is no video, so the four-year old boy beaten with a stick isn't quite as fortunate.
I read it was a switch from a willow tree. That is not a stick and you'd choose it over a leather belt any day of the week.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Its a legal matter and should be treated as such. If someone hits a spouse (man or women) then it becomes a legal matter. If convicted then a corporation policy should kick in, but up to that point what people do outside work is none of their business.

If they hired 3 women as stated, that pure bull shit, just what in hell are they gong to do?
Once again pure over reaction from a PC correct society.
was out of town today and on way home this was reported on the radio, seems one of the women was top ceo or something of some domestic violence group before hired by NFL today.......
also heard many fans saying they will not be fans any longer.........I'll believe that when it's reality........
I don't watch football........so I have no loss.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
From CBS Local - Houston:



According to law-enforcement sources, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch as a form of punishment this summer, an incident that allegedly resulted in multiple injuries to the child. According to reports, Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas for injury to a child.


The “whooping” – as Peterson put it when interviewed by police – occurred in Spring, Texas, in May. Peterson’s son had pushed another one of Peterson’s children off of a motorbike video game. As punishment, Peterson grabbed a tree branch – which he consistently referred to as a “switch” – removed the leaves and struck the child repeatedly.

The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”


Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child’s mother that he “felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh” and also acknowledged the injury to the child’s scrotum in a text message, saying, “Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!”


In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”


According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that “Daddy Peterson hit me on my face.” The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that “there are a lot of belts in Daddy’s closet.” He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”




Complete text: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
 

Caroljo

Senator
We do know if left scars, enough so that an indictment was sought. Doesn't sound like a tap on the behind to me.
A spanking was always meant to be felt by the child, that's the punishment. I remember having handprints on my butt a few times! My husband would have to go find his own switch. He was also spanked several times in middle school. The V-Principal had a big paddle, and he'd make the kid sit on it to "warm it up". I have no problem with spankings. I do know it can be carried away....so I think it's too bad there was no video of this one. If he was too hard on him, then he should pay for that. Is it the truth that the scars were left from the spanking? Or are they still looking into that? I really don't know.....
 

Caroljo

Senator
From CBS Local - Houston:


According to law-enforcement sources, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch as a form of punishment this summer, an incident that allegedly resulted in multiple injuries to the child. According to reports, Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas for injury to a child.

The “whooping” – as Peterson put it when interviewed by police – occurred in Spring, Texas, in May. Peterson’s son had pushed another one of Peterson’s children off of a motorbike video game. As punishment, Peterson grabbed a tree branch – which he consistently referred to as a “switch” – removed the leaves and struck the child repeatedly.

The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”

Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child’s mother that he “felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh” and also acknowledged the injury to the child’s scrotum in a text message, saying, “Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!”

In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”


According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that “Daddy Peterson hit me on my face.” The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that “there are a lot of belts in Daddy’s closet.” He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”




Complete text: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
Ok...well, if this is the case, he needs to be in jail, not back on his fricking football team. I can't see the NFL letting the team take him back now. Of course, I couldn't believe that Vick got to go back to playing after his hidious stunt.
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
was out of town today and on way home this was reported on the radio, seems one of the women was top ceo or something of some domestic violence group before hired by NFL today.......
also heard many fans saying they will not be fans any longer.........I'll believe that when it's reality........
I don't watch football........so I have no loss.
To me its seems idiotic for people to blame a league or team based on the actions of an individual. If one extrapolated this to business we would have to put most businesses off limits as I'm sure we can find a man or women abusing their spouse. It just seems like a legal matter that everyone needs to keep their noses out of. Its an emotional subject and that isn't always the case.
 
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