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Albert Einstein was racist.............

Boltlady

Mayor
Hitler's was at a time when it was not acceptable. Yes slavery was just how it was at the time. when you know betteryou do better. But it's ridiculous to judge historical people by today's standards.
Not enough people seem to realize that.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
They just like to virtue signal. It makes them feel like better people.
The same people grew up being taught in school about our pioneers and how brave and heroic they were. Not much is ever mentioned about the hideous way they treated the native people that were in their 'way'.
 

connieb

Senator
The same people grew up being taught in school about our pioneers and how brave and heroic they were. Not much is ever mentioned about the hideous way they treated the native people that were in their 'way'.
Indeed, but now they feel guilty over it. Silly really. They did what they did. They thought they were doing the right thing. If we listened to all the pusses of today we would still be a freaking Brittish Colony spanning the east coast.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Indeed, but now they feel guilty over it. Silly really. They did what they did. They thought they were doing the right thing. If we listened to all the pusses of today we would still be a freaking Brittish Colony spanning the east coast.
Times constantly change and it's really wrong to try and judge present times by older ones. It would be nice if they brought back a few things like manners though.
 

connieb

Senator
Times constantly change and it's really wrong to try and judge present times by older ones. It would be nice if they brought back a few things like manners though.
Indeed. Table manners in particular would be nice. The average american eats at the table like pigs do at a trough.
 
Everyone is racist because the races are obviously different. Physically, mentally, and psychologically. How could it be otherwise.?? THINK
Liberals Can Win Any Debate When Conservative Accept the Liberals' False Limits

It's not about "being different" at all. Just like chronically losing teams at sports, this can only be explained by admitting that they're are inferior races. But unlike sports (as the Cubs have shown), these defects are permanent.
 
and black plantation owners owned more than whites
you do know black African Kings sold black slaves to Muslims, right?
The African Genesis of Black on Black Crim

It wasn't just the kings who were guilty of race treason. Every slave not born in America had participated in slave hunts before he himself got captured.
 

Spamature

President
The belief that they are INHERENTLY inferior. Coming across a less evolved culture and acknowledging that it is less evolved and that the people seem to be strange, or weird does not indicate that you are not open to the fact that they are not actually inherently inferior as beings.
No it not "coming across" . The person stamps a culture as less evolved. The fact that individuals in one culture, who use thing they didn't invent, and likely couldn't even explain how the technology works, does not equate to superiority.

Einstein didn't have to flee from concentration camps being set up by Asians or Middle Easterners. He fled from a Western culture that saw him and his people as inferior and worthy of death. Had he been Asia or the ME maybe they'd had the bomb in WWII and not the West just as an example.

That the irony of all of this.
 

Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
When it comes to something subjective like morality, yes.
So the people that currently believe that a particular race of people are more moral and worthy than any other race are correct, simply because they believe this, this is what you believe?

Whew, what time is it on Jupiter
 

connieb

Senator
Liberals Can Win Any Debate When Conservative Accept the Liberals' False Limits

It's not about "being different" at all. Just like chronically losing teams at sports, this can only be explained by admitting that they're are inferior races. But unlike sports (as the Cubs have shown), these defects are permanent.

I disagree that a race is inherently inferior to another race. They are however, different and the strengths and weaknesses should not be defined as inferiority merely because in the environment we currently exist in, some may have some type of advantage.


The reality is that there are different races, because humans broke off in geographical areas and then proceeded to evolve and adapt physically in those areas. As well as reinforcing the traits of the people of the group who procreated and survived.

In reality our races are like breeds are to dogs. We are all humans.. dogs - are all dogs.

But, some of us have been breed for particular uses, climates and, environments. We are the descendants of those in our groups who breed and survived, thus passing on characteristics deemed necessary or desirable to the group. Just like humans have been intentionally breeding dogs.

When you breed dogs, and they have hind leg issues. You don't keep breeding that dog and passing on the inferior genetics. And in the wild or in societies of humans that is taken care of on its own. Those that are unhealthy, or have undesirable traits - are not mated with - either because they are killed off, die off or are ostracized from the group.

Just like when you consciously breed a dog because you like the temperament, they work well with others, they fit in.. so too did humans breed with each other. Because their temperaments suited the group as a whole, because they had characteristics that were desirable to others in the group.

East Asians - Chinese, Japanese Korean, actually are very sensitive to adhering to authority. That is a big cultural norm for them.Fitting in, conforming, bowing to authority. BUT - the characteristic is also breed into them. From a millennia of reproduction. If the society values acquiescence and devotion to leaders - and you are a rabble rouser who doesn't want to conform - do you think you will be a prized mate? Do you think that you will be kept in society? No, your genetics will consciously or unconsciously be breed out of the group.

Just like my Golden is not going to suddenly be a Rottweiler in temperment and function - so too, will other races - not match up exactly with each other. Each will have their more suited purpose or environment, and skill set. But that doesn't make one "better" than the other. Just like my Golden is not "better" than a Rotty. They are different. They have different purposes or uses and strengths.

We have to stop acting like acknowledging our evolutionary differences don't exist, just like we have to stop acting like the evolutionary differences don't exist between men and women. Nor is it racist or sexist to acknowledge that there are keen differences.
 

connieb

Senator
So the people that currently believe that a particular race of people are more moral and worthy than any other race are correct, simply because they believe this, this is what you believe?

Whew, what time is it on Jupiter
They believe they are correct. Can you prove that they are not? Other than on the basis of your own morality?
 

connieb

Senator
No it not "coming across" . The person stamps a culture as less evolved. The fact that individuals in one culture, who use thing they didn't invent, and likely couldn't even explain how the technology works, does not equate to superiority.

Einstein didn't have to flee from concentration camps being set up by Asians or Middle Easterners. He fled from a Western culture that saw him and his people as inferior and worthy of death. Had he been Asia or the ME maybe they'd had the bomb in WWII and not the West just as an example.

That the irony of all of this.
The culture WAS less evolved from his perspective. He lived in a house. They lived on dirt huts. He sat at a table to eat his meals - they squatted on the ground. Those things are things which HIS culture had associated with being lesser developed.
 

Spamature

President
The culture WAS less evolved from his perspective. He lived in a house. They lived on dirt huts. He sat at a table to eat his meals - they squatted on the ground. Those things are things which HIS culture had associated with being lesser developed.
And you don't think there were houses or tables in 1920 China or the ME ?
 

connieb

Senator
And you don't think there were houses or tables in 1920 China or the ME ?
Clearly not in the areas where he was recording these entries.

Indeed MANY of the poor in the rural areas of China, India, and the ME and most of the rest of the developing world STILL do not actually sit at dinner tables to eat. For many if they had the wood for the table it would have long been burnt in a fire for cooking. Do you actually have any idea how the rest of the world lives?
 

Spamature

President
Clearly not in the areas where he was recording these entries.

Indeed MANY of the poor in the rural areas of China, India, and the ME and most of the rest of the developing world STILL do not actually sit at dinner tables to eat. For many if they had the wood for the table it would have long been burnt in a fire for cooking. Do you actually have any idea how the rest of the world lives?
And you don't think he was aware of existence of or even the possibility that there might be houses and tables in China ?

Also there is a big difference between the poor not having things and the culture not having advanced to the stage of technology where such thing exist.
 
C

Capitalist

Guest
Has right and wrong changed since Jesus challenged the one without sin to throw the first stone? Will any of this change ever
Said the guy hurling stones at long dead societies.

Why don't you walk up to a statue of Cicero and kick it right in the nuts? He was a slave owner too, y'know.
 
C

Capitalist

Guest
Slavery was never morally correct, not at any point in time. Do you really believe that keeping people in chains and whipping them was ever morally correct? What about burning mothers and children alive?

If you answer yes you need some grape koolaid
Why do you demand that previous societies be as enlightened as we are?

You are arguing for a philosophical flat line throughout all of history--no enlightenment, no expanse of wisdom, no progress. And a flat line is another term for dead.
 
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