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And so it came to pass that American dignity died

connieb

Senator
It's downhill only unless the people act...
The problem is that THAT is the level at which a large part of the populace thinks. THESE are people that watch people all but screw on TV under the guise of "reality" TV. Where we watch people hook up, make out and then "choose" who we like the best. Where more people follow people like Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton who are famous for sex tapes and not anything remotely like talent.

As a country - we are almost entirely about being in other peoples' business. No rules. No standards and expectations of behavior. The media -is really given the majority of the idiot electorate EXACTLY what they want.. Nothing of stubstance, its all clickbait, hyperbole, breathlessness and exaggeration...

When John Edwards was caught, months to years after he had fathered a love child - it was put out by the freaking National Enquirer and people made fun of it, mocked it and dismissed it as seedy and tawdry. Now every freaking national media group is discussing sexual activities and porn stars. Um.. that was SUPPOSED to be beneath the dignity - of any serious person.. now.... nope.. but that is the stupidity of the american public.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The problem is that THAT is the level at which a large part of the populace thinks. THESE are people that watch people all but screw on TV under the guise of "reality" TV. Where we watch people hook up, make out and then "choose" who we like the best. Where more people follow people like Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton who are famous for sex tapes and not anything remotely like talent.

As a country - we are almost entirely about being in other peoples' business. No rules. No standards and expectations of behavior. The media -is really given the majority of the idiot electorate EXACTLY what they want.. Nothing of stubstance, its all clickbait, hyperbole, breathlessness and exaggeration...

When John Edwards was caught, months to years after he had fathered a love child - it was put out by the freaking National Enquirer and people made fun of it, mocked it and dismissed it as seedy and tawdry. Now every freaking national media group is discussing sexual activities and porn stars. Um.. that was SUPPOSED to be beneath the dignity - of any serious person.. now.... nope.. but that is the stupidity of the american public.
I'll readily admit there's nothing wrong with screwing. ;) but get your point
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Planning genocide and committing genocide are two separate things. The country acted decisively in November, 2016 to make sure things didn't get to that point.
So you have evidence of Hillary killing political opponents?

You did write this:
actively seeking to murder their political opponents, like Hillary Clinton and her supporters have done
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
as opposed to Trump's open insults, threats, name calling...and possibly disdain?
..while the media focused on golden showers questions, comey is touted as a font of truth, and allegations re Russia remain unsubstantiated...but no matter, posited as fact by many
 

EatTheRich

President
Well, other than their open disdain for anyone not aligned to their world view
That would be a big departure from Obama, but I wouldn't say it's an honest characterization of Clinton and Sanders. Yes, Clinton showed open disdain for those who were racists, sexists, and homophobes ... but that's different from having that attitude toward anyone with a political difference of opinion.
 
So you have evidence of Hillary killing political opponents?

You did write this:
actively seeking to murder their political opponents, like Hillary Clinton and her supporters have done
Yes. Read it again and tell me if you really believe it says I think Hillary murdered political opponents. Your English is good for a Russian, but clearly you still need work.
 
That would be a big departure from Obama, but I wouldn't say it's an honest characterization of Clinton and Sanders. Yes, Clinton showed open disdain for those who were racists, sexists, and homophobes ... but that's different from having that attitude toward anyone with a political difference of opinion.
So she, and you, truly believe the 30+ million people she denounced, Himmler-like, as "irredeemable" are ALL racists, sexists, or homophobes?
 

EatTheRich

President
So she, and you, truly believe the 30+ million people she denounced, Himmler-like, as "irredeemable" are ALL racists, sexists, or homophobes?
I don't. I can't speak for her. But obviously racism and sexism were high-profile features of Trump's campaign, which began with racist characterization of Mexicans more crude than we've seen from a mainstream contender since Buchanan and more crude than we've seen from an actual major-party nominee since Eisenhower ... and made sexist innuendo about Clinton into the major selling point of his campaign.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
That would be a big departure from Obama, but I wouldn't say it's an honest characterization of Clinton and Sanders. Yes, Clinton showed open disdain for those who were racists, sexists, and homophobes ... but that's different from having that attitude toward anyone with a political difference of opinion.
Nah. She showed open disdain toward anyone with a political difference of opinion, calling all such.. racists, sexists, and homophobes ...

She would have won otherwise
 

EatTheRich

President
Nah. She showed open disdain toward anyone with a political difference of opinion, calling all such.. racists, sexists, and homophobes ...

She would have won otherwise
No, she didn't. For example, everyone who supported Trump had a difference of opinion with her ... but she said that half of Trump supporters were racists, sexists, and homophobes. Obviously that's equivalent to saying that many tens of millions of people who disagreed with her were not racists, sexists, and homophobes.
 
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