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And so it came to pass that American dignity died

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Neither Clinton nor Sanders would have been a big departure from Obama. Trump was the candidate of those who wanted the circus.
A "circus" is better than a plane crash

3 dem/libs states that hadn't voted R in decades didn't want a repeat of Obama
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
That would be a big departure from Obama, but I wouldn't say it's an honest characterization of Clinton and Sanders. Yes, Clinton showed open disdain for those who were racists, sexists, and homophobes ... but that's different from having that attitude toward anyone with a political difference of opinion.
"racist-------like speaking in black tongue when speaking to blacks
"sexist"------still married to one
"homophobes"------due to her being a lesbian?

"Deplorable"-----is what she called all with political difference
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Yes. Read it again and tell me if you really believe it says I think Hillary murdered political opponents. Your English is good for a Russian, but clearly you still need work.
maybe that's why he ask Phil to talk to you, broke English!
 
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Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I don't. I can't speak for her. But obviously racism and sexism were high-profile features of Trump's campaign, which began with racist characterization of Mexicans more crude than we've seen from a mainstream contender since Buchanan and more crude than we've seen from an actual major-party nominee since Eisenhower ... and made sexist innuendo about Clinton into the major selling point of his campaign.
https://stream.org/deplorable-election-over-instant-hillary-said-this-word/
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
It is so easy to see how the MSM is being used, they just turn them on and off like switches. Reality is what they want it to be, the deep swamp.
 

Spamature

President
They asked if he had pants on. The transcripts of their coverage read like Penthouse Magazine, going well beyond facts discovery.
Wait ? So 20 yrs after the press going on about cigars in vaginas. You reach your limit with whether or not Trump had pants on when he solicited sex from a porn actress in an affair he publicly denied and has threatened lawsuits surrounding its disclosure to the voting public ?



Your patent deflection is uninteresting and NO ONE will believe you about other matters as you throw down with such poor players.

Pathetic.
Who is the one deflecting here ? Never heard you say a word about press salaciousness during those intervening decades, not until your right wing leader has been caught with said, pants down by document disclosures.

I blame lefty parents for such terrible character formation. As I noted to Julie previously, if you guys hate Trump so much...why do you adopt so many of his behaviors and mimic his character?

I am convinced lefty just wants the lowest common denominator across society as a whole. You crave a cesspool.

I guess Trump is your man. :confused:
I don't believe I have ever said I hated Trump. I know who Trump is and the danger he represents. I am certainly bothered by the hypocritical defenses for Trump's behavior like this one. But I don't hate Trump. I tried to warn you people away from him. Now you try to blame him on the other side.
 

Spamature

President
He had affairs - if is true -years ago. Then someone wanted to drag it out right before the election. How is wanting to stifle it right before the election any different that the actions of the people who wanted to expose it? Each sides purpose was to swing the public opinion. Either that is wrong on both sides or its not.
For one thing the people who wanted to expose it weren't lying about it, he was. His lying is what blew this thing up in the press. Remember, in presidential politics, it's always the cover up that lead to the downfall.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Wait ? So 20 yrs after the press going on about cigars in vaginas. You reach your limit with whether or not Trump had pants on when he solicited sex from a porn actress in an affair he publicly denied and has threatened lawsuits surrounding its disclosure to the voting public ?





Who is the one deflecting here ? Never heard you say a word about press salaciousness during those intervening decades, not until your right wing leader has been caught with said, pants down by document disclosures.



I don't believe I have ever said I hated Trump. I know who Trump is and the danger he represents. I am certainly bothered by the hypocritical defenses for Trump's behavior like this one. But I don't hate Trump. I tried to warn you people away from him. Now you try to blame him on the other side.
Well, your side delivered Hillary as candidate (so terrible even Trump could beat her). The other side brought us Trump. I voted for Johnson.

That said, though, terrible conduct (of Trump or Bill Clinton) isn't the subject -- media jumping the shark is. They did not jump the shark when Clinton was using intern private parts in the Oval Office as his own personal humidor. They did go off the deep end in this current iteration of disgraceful president.

This cannot be argued otherwise. It simply did not happen before.
 

Spamature

President
Well, your side delivered Hillary as candidate (so terrible even Trump could beat her). The other side brought us Trump. I voted for Johnson.

That said, though, terrible conduct (of Trump or Bill Clinton) isn't the subject -- media jumping the shark is. They did not jump the shark when Clinton was using intern private parts in the Oval Office as his own personal humidor. They did go off the deep end in this current iteration of disgraceful president.

This cannot be argued otherwise. It simply did not happen before.
Why do you Trump defenders keep bringing up Hillary Clinton ? You did what you wanted to do despite the months of warnings about Trump. Now we have what your (all of you) actions brought about, and contribute to with your attempts to shift blame to those that tried to prevent this, Hillary and her voters included.

Trump as POTUS LIED about his actions. Now as I stated when this story surfaced it showed he would go great lengths to hide his conduct. and that it opens up the question about him having been blackmailed by the Kremlin in regards to his prior sexual conduct. So when it comes to whether or not the nation has been compromised at its highest level, the media would be derelict in it's duty if it did not cover every aspect of this allegation.

The fact that you and I have heard descriptions of Bill Clinton's penis means that the media went far beyond this, long ago, in a presidency far, far less scandalous than the current.
 

EatTheRich

President
The alternative was worse. When will you get that?

Trump is an SOB.

Yeah, but the other bitch was worse.

Say what you will about Trump but fvk off already.
BTW ... the Repblicans had the option of selecting any one of a dozen dignified, competent Republicans to run against Clinton ... but they preferred Trump.
 
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justoffal

Senator
It is clear that everyone is tainted the minute they step into a job in Washington DC.

Do we really want to ruin a whole lot of (possibly) good people by sending them there?

I agree with @marvin martian that we aren't going to get past this by voting. We're probably not going to get past it at all.
Unfortunately too many people prefer a dishonest illusion to the reality. When the truth is ugly only a lie can be beautiful.

Human nature is what it is; it doesn't change for people who take elected office.

The Democrats choose to see the flaws in human nature only when it suits them.

They are forever struggling to find the moral High Ground where they have free from Blame and everyone else is to blame for everything.

Too bad for them such a place does not exist.

Jo
 
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