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antipathy towards blacks

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by JuliefromOhio, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich Governor

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    Considering how often "common sense and paying attention" have led you to conclusions that are demonstrably false (like this one), one would think you'd have learned not to trust your common sense. But, of course, how could you reach such a conclusion without the superior judgment required to do so?
     
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  2. TheResister

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    I would get into this fray; however I was on another board and had to spend several days disproving articles that made the claim that each undocumented foreigner in America costs us $6.7 MILLION DOLLARS only to have the guy making such an easily disprovable claim run like a scalded dog. Some days you have to ask what the point is.

    To illustrate, you stated earlier that whites own 98 percent of the land in America. China owns only 8 percent of the federal deficit:

    "China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)" (in reference to the amount of U.S. debt owes to China)

    http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/who-owns-america-hint-its-not-china/

    Japan owns $912 Billion Dollars of our debt. And there more. Lots of foreign countries own a lot of land in the U.S. And, while some whites may have current control over some land, foreigners are holding paper on it. Whites don't control what you think.

    Second to your argument, there is considerable debate as to what constitutes the welfare class. Lots of programs are not "welfare" for purposes of statistical purposes; however, it might as well be. Do you know people that work long enough to draw unemployment and then milk the system? I do. Unemployment insurance is not counted as welfare, but you and I know some people go through life milking the system.

    Social Security Disability is not "welfare," but people screw up their lives with drugs, pretend to be mentally unbalanced, etc. and become permanent disability recipients. The Socialist Security Administration says that from 2007 to 2011, claims went up by 34 percent.

    I don't know how to put it so you understand it, but the whites do not control much of America any longer. Hell, over half of the country is owned by the richest three percent. Take that out of the equation and whites MIGHT have control of a quarter of the remainder. How in depth do you really want to get with this?
     
  3. EatTheRich

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    If you click on the link you'll see that they do include SSI, if not Unemployment Insurance which is after all as much a direct compensation for your own labor (and premiums deducted from your paycheck) as wages. It's arbitrary to exclude the richest 3% when the whole point of white racial solidarity is to get white workers to stop thinking of themselves as workers and to identify instead with the interests of the rich whites. Deficit and debt are not the same ... look up the difference and get back to me. I already conceded that my figures referred to assets owned by Americans (the vast majority of which were owned by white Americans) and not those--a minority by your admission--owned by foreigners.
     
  4. TheResister

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    If I understood where you were going, this thread would be much easier to navigate. You will have to excuse me, but now knowing where you are going with this, I will just try to answer a few issues and then stick with the OP.

    In the initial OP, the question was posed as to whether blacks have gotten more than they deserve.

    Everything depends upon who is calculating figures and what you think they mean. Most whites do not identify with the richest segment of society. A mere 85 people have as much wealth as 3.5 billion of the world's poorest:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurash...alth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest/#677f5b31324b

    According to Wikipedia:

    "Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media[5] reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation’s wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

    Now, it would be quite disingenuous to claim that 1 percent who owns 40 percent of the nation's wealth are "white." What about the BILLIONS that Oprah Winfrey, Sean "Diddy" Combs, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Beyonce, etc., etc. control?

    Then, a lot of that 1 percent who control America's wealth are foreigners - and though they sometimes get classified as "white," the Jews are not accepted as "white" by many blue collar whites. On the contrary, most feel that Jews are in a league below most races of people.

    Then there are people like Rupert Murdoch. Billionaires like him might be "white," but white America does not generally relate to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT advocates from foreign countries - so his race is no factor in this discussion. Murdoch's wealth does not help whites any more than it does any other group, so his power is irrelevant to our daily lives.

    Okay, I'm being long-winded here just to get past the rick and that 40 percent of America's wealth. I'll come back later and discuss the remainder of this.
     
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  5. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    i wish we had an "ironic" symbol to use...

    [a race pimp pimping race]

    :cool:
     
  6. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    blacks represent approx. 12% of the population...

    any area where they represent more than 12% of the whole they are OVER represented....

    math,,its not about race, unless you want it to be...
     
  7. EatTheRich

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    There are a few very rich Black people, but the very rich are much more likely to be white than the population. Jews are white for the same reason Anglo-Saxons are white in the U.S. ... both get white privilege in that they don't face the same hurdles others face because they are nonwhite.

    No, it doesn't help poor white people that Rupert Murdoch is rich. What does help poor white people, and poor people of all colors, is the elimination of the racism that divides us.
     
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  8. EatTheRich

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    What exactly is your point?
     
  9. TheResister

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    Racism divides the people because the liberals have programmed the black people to believe that someone owes them a living. Blacks, at least 90 percent of them, rally around the Democrats - the same party that the original Ku Klux Klan started in and act as if the Republicans are tainted.

    It was the Republicans who illegally forced the 14th Amendment into law, giving the illusion that we could legislate equality. We've tried affirmative action, racial quotas, and preferential hiring schemes. Busing has been tried along with media suppression so as to downplay the fact that blacks were committing more crimes than any other race.

    Blacks blame all their problems on whites because of a few rich guys of whom the average white has absolutely NO influence. Fact is, when you look at the people like Kayne West, Salma Hayek, Mellody Hobson (who dates George Lucas) they have more influence with rich whites than do other whites.

    For those who LIVE in real America, we know that black people will get a job offer before the white guy does. Around here there is the old joke: What does Payless Shoes and the Post Office have in common? 10,000 black loafers. If you see a white person in one of our post offices under 50, they're lost. And this extends into all kinds of categories:

    I was in Kaiser's (a medical facility) waiting to see a GI specialist. In the hall were at least thirty black people. A woman came out of an office across the hall and said that all those applying for the opening to follow here. HOW could EVERY job applicant be the same color? Accident?

    Whites are increasingly locked out and now they have to rally around Donald Tramp just in order to have a voice. Blaming racism won't fix what is really wrong here.
     
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  10. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    its self explanatory...
     
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    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    the antipathy towards negros is only heightened by their lack of self control and historical violent nature..see the slaughter of over 1 million negros in just under 90 days in rwanda in the 90's...hacking, slashing a nd clubbing to death every man, woman and child they came across...

    impressive...
     
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  12. EatTheRich

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    That they have a right to live ... although most of them must work a lot harder than most whites to stay alive.

    Clearly they think the Democratic Party today has more to offer them.

    Nothing illegal about it and it's the cornerstone of the modern constitutional republic. Not sure what "media suppression" you're talking about ... crimes with Black perpetrators are actually much more likely to get coverage.

    That's what the rich guys (white and Black) want. It comes from whites even more often.

    A case in point. Blacks actually represent 20% of the Post Office workforce:

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2514917

    ... meaning there are plenty of jobs left for white people. As explained in the link, this is because Blacks don't face as many obstacles when seeking public - sector jobs as when seeking private - sector jobs. On the whole, Black unemployment is considerably higher than white unemployment, meaning your basic premise is a lie.

    A segregated neighborhood in a segregated metropolitan area? A job too low-pating for white people to bother applying for?

    Inarticulate destruction is not the same address having a voice. White workers are just starting to feel the pinch that Black workers have been feeling for a long time, and here you blame all your problems on Blacks when they're due to a few rich guys over whom the average Black person has no influence.
     
  13. EatTheRich

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    Not really. For example, Blacks are certainly over-represented in prison, where Non-Hispanic Blacks are 37% of the adult male population. They are over-represented, to a much smaller extent, in the Post Office, as pointed out above. Where else are they over-represented, and what does that tell us?
     
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    800,000 is the typical estimate, which is about 150 times fewer than the Native Americans killed by whites, and about 3 1/2 times as many as the United States killed with 2 atomic bombs in 3 days in Japan. People under capitalism are violent, period, but if you try to make it about race I guarantee us whites come off looking worse than anyone else.
     
  15. TheResister

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    Your method of disagreeing shows that you are not so secure in the crap you spew. Now, if I respond to you, point by point, in the same manner the replies will discourage anyone from reading them. Besides, you don't want the truth. You can't handle the truth. That is why you pretend to be more intelligent than the rest of us and critique each sentence.

    Needless to say, you are FOS. The area I live in is one of the most integrated places in America. About twenty miles down the road is a town called Chamblee. The locals call it little Chambodia. One time an ambulance driver could not read the road signs nor the signs on businesses. An injured guy bled out from a leg injury as a result. So, no, you're wrong.

    And no sir, I do not blame a damn thing on blacks. I never have and I never will. The reason is, by virtue of them signing on with the Democrats and blaming the whites for their every problem shows me that they lack the mental capacity to be fully responsible for their position in life. If they believe socialism is the cure all for mankind, they are not too bright. So, you're wrong again.

    The problem in America is a chickensh!+ leadership that does not call the black leadership out on their racism and silliness. Actually, my county commissioner did just that and now they are busing in hordes of blacks that will accept nothing less than the county commissioner committing
    hari kari on the courthouse steps. It only demonstrates that the blacks cannot co-exist and be able to take the same insults they dish out.

    I used to hear that liars use statistics and you've provided nothing that passes the common sense test. The whites in the county I live in are the majority, but you do not see white supervisors nor even predominantly white workers in companies that have over 15 or so workers. The Post Office has more like 98 percent blacks working there. Whites apply for a lot of jobs, but reality is - they aren't getting the jobs.

    IF jobs are not available to the black community, it's due to their leadership. You can call me a liar until Hell freezes over, but I only need one word to expose you for being ignorant: CHICAGO.
     
  16. The Sage of Main Street

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    The Have-Nots Have Been Had by the Haves

    It is a natural division. The ruling class knowingly integrated incompatible races in order to break up union solidarity. MLK's assignment from his sponsors was to do just that. If he had been sincere, he would have unionized the jobs that Blacks traditionally did and triple their wages. Ever since the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the rich have gotten richer and other Whites have gotten poorer. Since you confuse the lumpen proletariat with the productive proletariat, it is impossible for you to ever admit that result.

    Also, the born-rich Democratic Party youth who pushed their fathers to buy anti-majority legislation knew it would cause Whites to switch their vote to the Republican Party. That proves that the Born to Rule, never-told-no Leftist leaders had no minds of their own; they were totally driven by Birth-Class Supremacy. And that's what we have now.

    We're stuck with HeirHead rule and can only hope that Trump is a traitor to his class. We alone have the right to make that judgment, not our self-appointed mentors. The other side of that determination is the Preppy Progressives are not on our side. They must listen to us deplorables or shut up. Instead, they egg on the lumpen proletariat to attack us and our working-class-born policemen.

    A Leftist will often admit that many of his leaders were born in the Establishment, but always says that proves they were willing to sacrifice inherited power in order to bring power to the people. However, every item on your agenda can be identified as answering the question, "What do working-class Whites hate the most?"
     
  17. EatTheRich

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    1. And Asians can't get jobs in your area? Or what is your point?
    2. Not sure what insult was made but insulting a race of people is not becoming in an elected official.
    3. You do blame Blacks for things. You do it right in this post.
    4. Black people are almost 70% more likely to be unemployed
    https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpsee_e16.htm

    Blacks hold 6.7% of management jobs although they are 12.6% of the population.

    http://fortune.com/black-executives-men-c-suite/

    White males hold 74.4%, although we are 31% of the population.
    http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/diversity_among_ceos.html

    Note that I have links whereas you have absurd numbers that you made up.
     
  18. EatTheRich

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    Oh, and I agree that the Black community in Chicago and elsewhere has been poorly led. It's no excuse, but they'd have been better off if groups that tried to provide better leadership, such as the Black Panthers, hadn't been viciously repressed by the governing power structure.
     
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    There's no such thing as "incompatible races." Race makes a difference only due to racism bred by the ruling class. The working class is much stronger now that Jim Crow has fallen, and has asserted its power successfully in the face of an unprecedented assault by bosses attempting to employ violence (via police who are removed from their class origins and transformed into instruments of the ruling class) to roll back the clock. The Democratic Party does not advance the interests of the working class; of course not. That's why we need a working-class vanguard party.
     
  20. The Sage of Main Street

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    The War of the Roses

    Like so many of your self-contradictions, you're not class-conscious at all. If you were, you'd immediately see that Leftists are the children of the ruling class. So it's a palace revolution, this one using the untamed-savage minorities against Whites born in the working class. This is a dynastic struggle, using both sides' supporters as cannon fodder. Vietnam was designed to kill off or take the fight out of the bravest of the working class by tricking us into falsely identify the rulers' Preppy anti-GI protesters as anti-Conservative, thus dying to take a rich kid's place in a war against the United Preppies worst class enemy.
     
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