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antipathy towards blacks

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by JuliefromOhio, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich Governor

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    Considering how often "common sense and paying attention" have led you to conclusions that are demonstrably false (like this one), one would think you'd have learned not to trust your common sense. But, of course, how could you reach such a conclusion without the superior judgment required to do so?
     
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  2. TheResister

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    I would get into this fray; however I was on another board and had to spend several days disproving articles that made the claim that each undocumented foreigner in America costs us $6.7 MILLION DOLLARS only to have the guy making such an easily disprovable claim run like a scalded dog. Some days you have to ask what the point is.

    To illustrate, you stated earlier that whites own 98 percent of the land in America. China owns only 8 percent of the federal deficit:

    "China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)" (in reference to the amount of U.S. debt owes to China)

    http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/who-owns-america-hint-its-not-china/

    Japan owns $912 Billion Dollars of our debt. And there more. Lots of foreign countries own a lot of land in the U.S. And, while some whites may have current control over some land, foreigners are holding paper on it. Whites don't control what you think.

    Second to your argument, there is considerable debate as to what constitutes the welfare class. Lots of programs are not "welfare" for purposes of statistical purposes; however, it might as well be. Do you know people that work long enough to draw unemployment and then milk the system? I do. Unemployment insurance is not counted as welfare, but you and I know some people go through life milking the system.

    Social Security Disability is not "welfare," but people screw up their lives with drugs, pretend to be mentally unbalanced, etc. and become permanent disability recipients. The Socialist Security Administration says that from 2007 to 2011, claims went up by 34 percent.

    I don't know how to put it so you understand it, but the whites do not control much of America any longer. Hell, over half of the country is owned by the richest three percent. Take that out of the equation and whites MIGHT have control of a quarter of the remainder. How in depth do you really want to get with this?
     
  3. EatTheRich

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    If you click on the link you'll see that they do include SSI, if not Unemployment Insurance which is after all as much a direct compensation for your own labor (and premiums deducted from your paycheck) as wages. It's arbitrary to exclude the richest 3% when the whole point of white racial solidarity is to get white workers to stop thinking of themselves as workers and to identify instead with the interests of the rich whites. Deficit and debt are not the same ... look up the difference and get back to me. I already conceded that my figures referred to assets owned by Americans (the vast majority of which were owned by white Americans) and not those--a minority by your admission--owned by foreigners.
     
  4. TheResister

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    If I understood where you were going, this thread would be much easier to navigate. You will have to excuse me, but now knowing where you are going with this, I will just try to answer a few issues and then stick with the OP.

    In the initial OP, the question was posed as to whether blacks have gotten more than they deserve.

    Everything depends upon who is calculating figures and what you think they mean. Most whites do not identify with the richest segment of society. A mere 85 people have as much wealth as 3.5 billion of the world's poorest:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurash...alth-as-the-3-5-billion-poorest/#677f5b31324b

    According to Wikipedia:

    "Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media[5] reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation’s wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

    Now, it would be quite disingenuous to claim that 1 percent who owns 40 percent of the nation's wealth are "white." What about the BILLIONS that Oprah Winfrey, Sean "Diddy" Combs, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Beyonce, etc., etc. control?

    Then, a lot of that 1 percent who control America's wealth are foreigners - and though they sometimes get classified as "white," the Jews are not accepted as "white" by many blue collar whites. On the contrary, most feel that Jews are in a league below most races of people.

    Then there are people like Rupert Murdoch. Billionaires like him might be "white," but white America does not generally relate to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT advocates from foreign countries - so his race is no factor in this discussion. Murdoch's wealth does not help whites any more than it does any other group, so his power is irrelevant to our daily lives.

    Okay, I'm being long-winded here just to get past the rick and that 40 percent of America's wealth. I'll come back later and discuss the remainder of this.
     
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  5. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    i wish we had an "ironic" symbol to use...

    [a race pimp pimping race]

    :cool:
     
  6. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    blacks represent approx. 12% of the population...

    any area where they represent more than 12% of the whole they are OVER represented....

    math,,its not about race, unless you want it to be...
     
  7. EatTheRich

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    There are a few very rich Black people, but the very rich are much more likely to be white than the population. Jews are white for the same reason Anglo-Saxons are white in the U.S. ... both get white privilege in that they don't face the same hurdles others face because they are nonwhite.

    No, it doesn't help poor white people that Rupert Murdoch is rich. What does help poor white people, and poor people of all colors, is the elimination of the racism that divides us.
     
  8. EatTheRich

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    What exactly is your point?
     
  9. TheResister

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    Racism divides the people because the liberals have programmed the black people to believe that someone owes them a living. Blacks, at least 90 percent of them, rally around the Democrats - the same party that the original Ku Klux Klan started in and act as if the Republicans are tainted.

    It was the Republicans who illegally forced the 14th Amendment into law, giving the illusion that we could legislate equality. We've tried affirmative action, racial quotas, and preferential hiring schemes. Busing has been tried along with media suppression so as to downplay the fact that blacks were committing more crimes than any other race.

    Blacks blame all their problems on whites because of a few rich guys of whom the average white has absolutely NO influence. Fact is, when you look at the people like Kayne West, Salma Hayek, Mellody Hobson (who dates George Lucas) they have more influence with rich whites than do other whites.

    For those who LIVE in real America, we know that black people will get a job offer before the white guy does. Around here there is the old joke: What does Payless Shoes and the Post Office have in common? 10,000 black loafers. If you see a white person in one of our post offices under 50, they're lost. And this extends into all kinds of categories:

    I was in Kaiser's (a medical facility) waiting to see a GI specialist. In the hall were at least thirty black people. A woman came out of an office across the hall and said that all those applying for the opening to follow here. HOW could EVERY job applicant be the same color? Accident?

    Whites are increasingly locked out and now they have to rally around Donald Tramp just in order to have a voice. Blaming racism won't fix what is really wrong here.
     
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  10. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    its self explanatory...
     
  11. oicu812

    oicu812 "Trust, but Verify"

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    the antipathy towards negros is only heightened by their lack of self control and historical violent nature..see the slaughter of over 1 million negros in just under 90 days in rwanda in the 90's...hacking, slashing a nd clubbing to death every man, woman and child they came across...

    impressive...
     
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