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Anybody watching "The Man in the High Castle?" Seems problematic for libs

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I love this show! I'm catching up--half way through season 2. If you're not watching it, you should.

But liberals have some 'splaining to do.

Here we have an alternate history story. Germany and Japan won WWII. Japan controls the west from the coast to the Rocky Mountains. Germany controls the east up to Kansas. The Resistance fights on from the Neutral Zone in the Rockies. It's 1963. The Nazis are accurately portrayed as they would have to be for such a show to garner such attention. And this is where it gets problematic for libs.

It seems that every plank in the liberal platform is embraced by the Nazis and portrayed in all their horrible reality. Take for instance, physician assisted suicide. A three star general in the SS, John Smith, has a son diagnosed with a deadly genetic disorder. He sits in the doctor's office in total denial. They go back and forth and finally Smith wants a second opinion. The doctor understands but makes it clear that if the diagnosis goes outside of his office it becomes an "institutional issue." It sinks in that his son, Thomas, will be euthanized by the Nazis as a matter of policy. The doctor has prepared a cyanide kit for Smith to inject his son in the comfort of his home without the involvement of the hospital or state. Smith is, of course, torn and devastated.

It occurred to me that if you wanted to write an episode against the horrors of physician assisted suicide you couldn't do better than this.

Then we have the scene where a bunch of partying "Liebensborne" (Hitler spawn) young adults are discussing the importance of environmentalism. Hmph! How 'bout that! Nazis are environmentalists! Of course, I knew that all along but here we have a TV show from a Hugo award winning book reminding people of that fact as well.

And I can imagine the dissonance in a liberal's head when Thomas helps another character, Julianna from the Japanese Pacific States, study for her Reich citizenship test.

"Surely the Japanese must have taught you about the North American exterminations."

"Hmmm?"

"You know. The Indians?"

I can imagine a lefty pumping his fist at first, "Yeah! That's right! We tried to kill off the Indians. They don't teach it like that in our schools. And now we--whoa! Suddenly, I'm agreeing with Nazi indoctrination. I'm feeling a bit conflicted right about now."

Physician assisted suicide? Environmentalism? Education? I'm only half way through the second season. What other similarities will the show display between liberalism and Nazis?

In closing, you should see it if only for the opening credits--quite possibly the best I've seen on TV ever. The theme is "Edelweiss" from "The Sound of Music" but it's so stripped down and minimalist and quiet it comes across as a funeral dirge for America while a projector projects paratrooper tears on the faces of Mt. Rushmore.

 
C

Capitalist

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bdtex said:
Never heard of it.
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Well now you have. You’re welcome. Glad to be of service.

It’s only a Hugo award winning story from the same guy who wrote “The Minority Report” and “Blade Runner.”
 
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Sickofleft

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Capitalist said:
I love this show! I'm catching up--half way through season 2. If you're not watching it, you should.

But liberals have some 'splaining to do.

Here we have an alternate history story. Germany and Japan won WWII. Japan controls the west from the coast to the Rocky Mountains. Germany controls the east up to Kansas. The Resistance fights on from the Neutral Zone in the Rockies. It's 1963. The Nazis are accurately portrayed as they would have to be for such a show to garner such attention. And this is where it gets problematic for libs.

It seems that every plank in the liberal platform is embraced by the Nazis and portrayed in all their horrible reality. Take for instance, physician assisted suicide. A three star general in the SS, John Smith, has a son diagnosed with a deadly genetic disorder. He sits in the doctor's office in total denial. They go back and forth and finally Smith wants a second opinion. The doctor understands but makes it clear that if the diagnosis goes outside of his office it becomes an "institutional issue." It sinks in that his son, Thomas, will be euthanized by the Nazis as a matter of policy. The doctor has prepared a cyanide kit for Smith to inject his son in the comfort of his home without the involvement of the hospital or state. Smith is, of course, torn and devastated.

It occurred to me that if you wanted to write an episode against the horrors of physician assisted suicide you couldn't do better than this.

Then we have the scene where a bunch of partying "Liebensborne" (Hitler spawn) young adults are discussing the importance of environmentalism. Hmph! How 'bout that! Nazis are environmentalists! Of course, I knew that all along but here we have a TV show from a Hugo award winning book reminding people of that fact as well.

And I can imagine the dissonance in a liberal's head when Thomas helps another character, Julianna from the Japanese Pacific States, study for her Reich citizenship test.

"Surely the Japanese must have taught you about the North American exterminations."

"Hmmm?"

"You know. The Indians?"

I can imagine a lefty pumping his fist at first, "Yeah! That's right! We tried to kill off the Indians. They don't teach it like that in our schools. And now we--whoa! Suddenly, I'm agreeing with Nazi indoctrination. I'm feeling a bit conflicted right about now."

Physician assisted suicide? Environmentalism? Education? I'm only half way through the second season. What other similarities will the show display between liberalism and Nazis?

In closing, you should see it if only for the opening credits--quite possibly the best I've seen on TV ever. The theme is "Edelweiss" from "The Sound of Music" but it's so stripped down and minimalist and quiet it comes across as a funeral dirge for America while a projector projects paratrooper tears on the faces of Mt. Rushmore.

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Great show, very well done. Have not started season 3 yet. I thought the show was great from the start because people have forgotten (or never bothered to learn in the case of our millennial's) what was at stake during that war.
 
Drumcollie

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Capitalist said:
I love this show! I'm catching up--half way through season 2. If you're not watching it, you should.

But liberals have some 'splaining to do.

Here we have an alternate history story. Germany and Japan won WWII. Japan controls the west from the coast to the Rocky Mountains. Germany controls the east up to Kansas. The Resistance fights on from the Neutral Zone in the Rockies. It's 1963. The Nazis are accurately portrayed as they would have to be for such a show to garner such attention. And this is where it gets problematic for libs.

It seems that every plank in the liberal platform is embraced by the Nazis and portrayed in all their horrible reality. Take for instance, physician assisted suicide. A three star general in the SS, John Smith, has a son diagnosed with a deadly genetic disorder. He sits in the doctor's office in total denial. They go back and forth and finally Smith wants a second opinion. The doctor understands but makes it clear that if the diagnosis goes outside of his office it becomes an "institutional issue." It sinks in that his son, Thomas, will be euthanized by the Nazis as a matter of policy. The doctor has prepared a cyanide kit for Smith to inject his son in the comfort of his home without the involvement of the hospital or state. Smith is, of course, torn and devastated.

It occurred to me that if you wanted to write an episode against the horrors of physician assisted suicide you couldn't do better than this.

Then we have the scene where a bunch of partying "Liebensborne" (Hitler spawn) young adults are discussing the importance of environmentalism. Hmph! How 'bout that! Nazis are environmentalists! Of course, I knew that all along but here we have a TV show from a Hugo award winning book reminding people of that fact as well.

And I can imagine the dissonance in a liberal's head when Thomas helps another character, Julianna from the Japanese Pacific States, study for her Reich citizenship test.

"Surely the Japanese must have taught you about the North American exterminations."

"Hmmm?"

"You know. The Indians?"

I can imagine a lefty pumping his fist at first, "Yeah! That's right! We tried to kill off the Indians. They don't teach it like that in our schools. And now we--whoa! Suddenly, I'm agreeing with Nazi indoctrination. I'm feeling a bit conflicted right about now."

Physician assisted suicide? Environmentalism? Education? I'm only half way through the second season. What other similarities will the show display between liberalism and Nazis?

In closing, you should see it if only for the opening credits--quite possibly the best I've seen on TV ever. The theme is "Edelweiss" from "The Sound of Music" but it's so stripped down and minimalist and quiet it comes across as a funeral dirge for America while a projector projects paratrooper tears on the faces of Mt. Rushmore.

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I read a book on this subject assuming the German Socialists aka "Nazi''s" were taking over. In this book however the Socialists from Germany had taken over on the East Coast. I had trouble with the theory knowing that Germany could not field enough equipment(landing craft) to attack England. How were they going to attack America?

But this series sounds interesting. I am going to check it out.
 
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Drumcollie said:
I read a book on this subject assuming the German Socialists aka "Nazi''s" were taking over. In this book however the Socialists from Germany had taken over on the East Coast. I had trouble with the theory knowing that Germany could not field enough equipment(landing craft) to attack England. How were they going to attack America?

But this series sounds interesting. I am going to check it out.
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The backstory is this:

Book: FDR is assassinated in 1937 by an Italian group prolonging the Great Depression and forcing a weak US into the war. Axis wins.

TV: Nazis get the bomb first and nuke DC and some other cities (Boston?). Other details are left for you to fill in. Axis wins.

Not implausible since Germany was also developing the Goethe bomber—a flying wing that could fly to New York—at the close of the war.

Also, you could say that the only reason Germany didn’t make it to England was the incredibly important acquisition of Enigma and superior intel. That was THE intelligence that won the Battle of Britain.

The series is fantastic! Enlightening, intelligent, and relevant. From a strictly literary sense it pulls you in with excellent characters, wonderful character development and a superior plot. You need to pay attention to who knows what. Lots of backstabbing and skullduggery from the precipice of a skyscraper to the Nazi ladies bridge club—like Ayn Rand but much more polished.

From an historical perspective I find the events to be completely plausible. Notice how our current desire to avoid the tiniest bit of suffering mushrooms into the public mandate of ending pain through compulsory euthanasia for those deemed “suffering.” So much truth in this piece of fiction!

The Nazi Church scene with stained glass swastikas everywhere but no cross in sight gave me the creeps.

Question on the Reich’s citizenship test and dialogue:

From where does justice come?

Ummm. . .the Reich?

Close. More specific.

Um, the Furher?

Yes. Excellent. Divine justice flows from the universe through the Furher to his people.

I find it amazing and plausible that Nazis would reference the Divine and Furher in the same context but leave God completely out of it.

Like leftists—who want to be perceived as being moral while having nothing to do with God.
 
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Why is “God” mentioned in the Resistance in a positive light while overtly avoided in the Reich?

I thought the holy rollers were righties not rebels.

Anyone?

Note the general lack of left response here. Silence is agreement. And how could the left possibly respond? What would they say?
 
RickWA

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Capitalist said:
The backstory is this:

Book: FDR is assassinated in 1937 by an Italian group prolonging the Great Depression and forcing a weak US into the war. Axis wins.

TV: Nazis get the bomb first and nuke DC and some other cities (Boston?). Other details are left for you to fill in. Axis wins.

Not implausible since Germany was also developing the Goethe bomber—a flying wing that could fly to New York—at the close of the war.

Also, you could say that the only reason Germany didn’t make it to England was the incredibly important acquisition of Enigma and superior intel. That was THE intelligence that won the Battle of Britain.

The series is fantastic! Enlightening, intelligent, and relevant. From a strictly literary sense it pulls you in with excellent characters, wonderful character development and a superior plot. You need to pay attention to who knows what. Lots of backstabbing and skullduggery from the precipice of a skyscraper to the Nazi ladies bridge club—like Ayn Rand but much more polished.

From an historical perspective I find the events to be completely plausible. Notice how our current desire to avoid the tiniest bit of suffering mushrooms into the public mandate of ending pain through compulsory euthanasia for those deemed “suffering.” So much truth in this piece of fiction!

The Nazi Church scene with stained glass swastikas everywhere but no cross in sight gave me the creeps.

Question on the Reich’s citizenship test and dialogue:

From where does justice come?

Ummm. . .the Reich?

Close. More specific.

Um, the

Yes. Excellent. Divine justice flows from the universe through the Furher to his people.

I find it amazing and plausible that Nazis would reference the Divine and Furher in the same context but leave God completely out of it.

Like leftists. Who want to be perceived as being moral but have nothing to do with God.
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Interesting...but it is the ongoing vitality of FDR (and his policies) that prolonged the Great Depression. One can only assume that an earlier exit from the stage would have likely shortened it (unless one is a socialist, of course).

* Not that I would ever hope for harm to befall ANY American president (gotta preempt the lunatic kooks).
 
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RickWA said:
Interesting...but it is the ongoing vitality of FDR (and his policies) that prolonged the Great Depression. One can only assume that an earlier exit from the stage would have likely shortened it (unless one is a socialist, of course).

* Not that I would ever hope for harm to befall ANY American president (gotta preempt the lunatic kooks).
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Well, true. But who knows what would have happened?

Death of a popular president? Crushed morale?

And Truman wasn’t known for much outside of dropping the bomb. No telling how he would have handled 1937.

And I haven’t read the book yet so I’m sure there are other details.

More details:

Nicole Dormer is a hot blonde whose father works directly for Goebbles. When asked what he does she says, “He tells people what to think through the newspapers,” like it was nothing.

Any of that going on today?

Jim Acosta? You reading this?
 
RickWA

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Capitalist said:
Well, true. But who knows what would have happened?

Death of a popular president? Crushed morale?

And Truman wasn’t known for much outside of dropping the bomb. No telling how he would have handled 1937.

And I haven’t read the book yet so I’m sure there are other details.

More details:

Nicole Dormer is a hot blonde whose father works directly for Goebbles. When asked what he does she says, “He tells people what to think through the newspapers,” like it was nothing.

Any of that going on today?

Jim Acosta? You reading this?
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You had me at “hot blonde”.
:)
 
NinaS

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Capitalist said:
I love this show! I'm catching up--half way through season 2. If you're not watching it, you should.

But liberals have some 'splaining to do.

Here we have an alternate history story. Germany and Japan won WWII. Japan controls the west from the coast to the Rocky Mountains. Germany controls the east up to Kansas. The Resistance fights on from the Neutral Zone in the Rockies. It's 1963. The Nazis are accurately portrayed as they would have to be for such a show to garner such attention. And this is where it gets problematic for libs.

It seems that every plank in the liberal platform is embraced by the Nazis and portrayed in all their horrible reality. Take for instance, physician assisted suicide. A three star general in the SS, John Smith, has a son diagnosed with a deadly genetic disorder. He sits in the doctor's office in total denial. They go back and forth and finally Smith wants a second opinion. The doctor understands but makes it clear that if the diagnosis goes outside of his office it becomes an "institutional issue." It sinks in that his son, Thomas, will be euthanized by the Nazis as a matter of policy. The doctor has prepared a cyanide kit for Smith to inject his son in the comfort of his home without the involvement of the hospital or state. Smith is, of course, torn and devastated.

It occurred to me that if you wanted to write an episode against the horrors of physician assisted suicide you couldn't do better than this.

Then we have the scene where a bunch of partying "Liebensborne" (Hitler spawn) young adults are discussing the importance of environmentalism. Hmph! How 'bout that! Nazis are environmentalists! Of course, I knew that all along but here we have a TV show from a Hugo award winning book reminding people of that fact as well.

And I can imagine the dissonance in a liberal's head when Thomas helps another character, Julianna from the Japanese Pacific States, study for her Reich citizenship test.

"Surely the Japanese must have taught you about the North American exterminations."

"Hmmm?"

"You know. The Indians?"

I can imagine a lefty pumping his fist at first, "Yeah! That's right! We tried to kill off the Indians. They don't teach it like that in our schools. And now we--whoa! Suddenly, I'm agreeing with Nazi indoctrination. I'm feeling a bit conflicted right about now."

Physician assisted suicide? Environmentalism? Education? I'm only half way through the second season. What other similarities will the show display between liberalism and Nazis?

In closing, you should see it if only for the opening credits--quite possibly the best I've seen on TV ever. The theme is "Edelweiss" from "The Sound of Music" but it's so stripped down and minimalist and quiet it comes across as a funeral dirge for America while a projector projects paratrooper tears on the faces of Mt. Rushmore.

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Anything I hate is for someone to tell people all about a show and then telling them to watch it. Jeez...do you have a book you can tell us all about before you tell us to read it?
 
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