How was she to prove it?why would she drop it, if it happenned
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-woman-president.html
How was she to prove it?why would she drop it, if it happenned
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-woman-president.html
so she gets to just say it, and it should go unchallenged? and persons who disagree with it are tagged sexist?How was she to prove it?
I don't know one way or another. Neither do you. Whether she "relented" or simply declined to pursue is also something neither of us knows. Yet you leapt to deciding she's "making shit up." Why you leapt to that conclusion is open for speculation.the same way you know shes not.
further...because when challenged, she relented....bernie didnt allow it to pass.
so, immediately everybody is a sexist who does not support the unsubstantiated, simpley because a woman said it?
It didn't go unchallenged. It was challenged by the only other person in a position to know whether it's true. You aren't that person. You merely decided whom you want to believe, for whatever reason you chose to believe him.so she gets to just say it, and it should go unchallenged? and persons who disagree with it are tagged sexist?
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Give it up. Two people have 2 different recollections of a conversation.....and you jump to calling the woman the liar. That's so rightwing Trumpian.so she gets to just say it, and it should go unchallenged? and persons who disagree with it are tagged sexist?
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actually it's not.I don't know one way or another. Neither do you. Whether she "relented" or simply declined to pursue is also something neither of us knows. Yet you leapt to deciding she's "making shit up." Why you leapt to that conclusion is open for speculation.
i chose to believe him, because when he was challenged with the assertion, he flatly denied it occurred, and then she relented...It didn't go unchallenged. It was challenged by the only other person in a position to know whether it's true. You aren't that person. You merely decided whom you want to believe, for whatever reason you chose to believe him.
I didn't watch the debate. Did catch snippets and commentary about that exchange later. My take is a little different than yours. I see it as a tactical strike by EW and I believe her. I believe he probably did tell her he didn't think a woman could win. She's been slipping a bit in the early state polls. Iowa,NH and Nevada are coming up. Amy Klobuchar is probably not gonna hit the 15% threshhold in the Iowa and NV caucus and EW is looking to pick up her supporters. The Bernie/Warren thing ate up the news cycle for 2 days. If there's a bump to be had for her,she'll get it. For better or worse,nuts-and-bolts policy wonk is her strength. I think she just wanted to get back to that last night.in case you hadn't heard, a few days ago Elizabeth Warren asserted that years ago Bernie Sanders told her that a woman could not be elected president. Yesterday during the debate Bernie Sanders denied that that ever occurred.
Seems to me over the last few days Elizabeth Warren elected to go the make some shit up route. Yesterday during the debate Bernie called her on it. She apparently relented, rather than affirming factually that it happened.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jan/14/democratic-debate-live-news-tonight-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-biden-latest-updates-2020
Who said no one can speak on it?actually it's not.
she asserted in days prior. bernie denied. is the assertion invalid...and her having said it...means no one can speak on it?
I think he said it too. Not in a "a woman can't win because women aren't capable" way but rather in a "a woman can't win because of the misogynistic state of American voters in this moment" way.I didn't watch the debate. Did catch snippets and commentary about that exchange later. My take is a little different than yours. I see it as a tactical strike by EW and I believe her. I believe he probably did tell her he didn't think a woman could win. She's been slipping a bit in the early state polls. Iowa,NH and Nevada are coming up. Amy Klobuchar is probably not gonna hit the 15% threshhold in the Iowa and NV caucus and EW is looking to pick up her supporters. The Bernie/Warren thing ate up the news cycle for 2 days. If there's a bump to be had for her,she'll get it. For better or worse,nuts-and-bolts policy wonk is her strength. I think she just wanted to get back to that last night.
give what up...challenging your sexist backhand?Give it up. Two people have 2 different recollections of a conversation.....and you jump to calling the woman the liar. That's so rightwing Trumpian.
I didn't watch the debate. Did catch snippets and commentary about that exchange later. My take is a little different than yours. I see it as a tactical strike by EW and I believe her. I believe he probably did tell her he didn't think a woman could win. She's been slipping a bit in the early state polls. Iowa,NH and Nevada are coming up. Amy Klobuchar is probably not gonna hit the 15% threshhold in the Iowa and NV caucus and EW is looking to pick up her supporters. The Bernie/Warren thing ate up the news cycle for 2 days. If there's a bump to be had for her,she'll get it. For better or worse,nuts-and-bolts policy wonk is her strength. I think she just wanted to get back to that last night.
exactly. no one.Who said no one can speak on it?
I called out Trump supporters' sexism.
Long topic for another thread. Start one if you so desire.what qualifies as actual sexism to you?
Correct. And those who do say something about it are open to having their motives for their positions questioned. Such is the nature of a discussion.exactly. no one.
Boy, would she fit right in on PJ.in case you hadn't heard, a few days ago Elizabeth Warren asserted that years ago Bernie Sanders told her that a woman could not be elected president. Yesterday during the debate Bernie Sanders denied that that ever occurred.
Seems to me over the last few days Elizabeth Warren elected to go the make some shit up route. Yesterday during the debate Bernie called her on it. She apparently relented, rather than affirming factually that it happened.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jan/14/democratic-debate-live-news-tonight-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-biden-latest-updates-2020
Thanks for the link btw. I hadn't seen that little post-debate exchange. Look at the look on both their faces before the video starts. They didn't smoke the peace pipe. Hard feelings linger.in case you hadn't heard, a few days ago Elizabeth Warren asserted that years ago Bernie Sanders told her that a woman could not be elected president. Yesterday during the debate Bernie Sanders denied that that ever occurred.
Seems to me over the last few days Elizabeth Warren elected to go the make some shit up route. Yesterday during the debate Bernie called her on it. She apparently relented, rather than affirming factually that it happened.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jan/14/democratic-debate-live-news-tonight-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-biden-latest-updates-2020
surely.Correct. And those who do say something about it are open to having their motives for their positions questioned. Such is the nature of a discussion.