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Bolton Says Trump and Pompeo Both Knew Aid Withheld to Bribe Ukraine

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
The only thing Bolton has is hearsay, of policy discussions; the fact remains that regardless of whether Bolton is truthful or not, no threats left the White House, no policy was influenced, and the president acted within his responsibilities as chief law enforcement officer.
This is a vindictive move by a man who is having trouble digesting his dismissal.


The Democrat controlled House never even asked John Bolton to testify.

Whoops ! again !
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
and of course, lyin' Trump says Bolton is just saying this to help sell his book!! as if trump would not rent out his daughter if the money was right...

Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times describe Trump telling Bolton in August that he wanted to continue freezing nearly $400 million in congressionally approved military assistance to Ukraine until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival.

A key part of Trump’s defense in the impeachment process has been that his decision to withhold the aid was completely separate from his request for Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Tying the two together would indicate that Trump attempted a quid pro quo with a foreign government in order to sway the 2020 presidential election ― which Democrats have said was the case since the impeachment inquiry began.

According to the Times, Bolton alleged that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo privately admitted there was no basis to Rudy Giuliani’s claims that ousted U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was corrupt, and he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients.

Bolton also wrote that acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call during which Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times.

Bolton also reportedly said he raised his concerns about Giuliani’s shadow diplomacy with Attorney General William Barr after Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton alleged that he was the one who informed Barr that the president mentioned him on the call, according to the Times. A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation.

Bolton’s account of Trump’s alleged remarks were included in the former national security adviser’s unpublished manuscript, which he has been circulating to close associates. The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say in a testimony if the Senate calls him as a witness in Trump’s impeachment trial.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-bolton-trump-ukraine-biden_n_5e2e2630c5b6779e9c359031


Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump


I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens. In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination. If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book. With that being said, the...


49.3K

11:18 PM - Jan 26, 2020


who would trump voters believe- trump, the biggest liar in the world....or Bolton, not the biggest liar in the world?

if the republican senators wanted the truth, and a fair trial, as they took an oath to do, how could they not call Bolton to testify?

if trump voters were interested in the truth, and a fair trial, why would they not insist republicans senators call Bolton to testify?
Lets wipe away all the useless horse sh it in this article and just go right into what it is that is ACTUALLY being presented here, shall we?

Why yes, we shall.

Ok, first we have the title itself;
"Bolton Says"...

Then after the typical di m, "I hate Trump!" babble we get;
"Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times..."
"describe Trump telling Bolton"..

"until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival."
"Tying the two together would.."
"indicate..."
"Democrats have said was the case..."
According to the Times,"
"Bolton alleged that.."
".. privately admitted there was no basis..."
".. he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients."

"Bolton also wrote that..."
"..Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call
.."
"Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times."
"Bolton also reportedly said..."
" he raised his concerns..."
"Bolton alleged that..."
"... the president mentioned him on the call,"
"according to the Times."
"A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation."
"Bolton’s account of.."
"Trump’s alleged remarks.."

"The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say...."
"if the Senate calls him..."



Hell of a lot of speculation here.
Not much actual proof or evidence of anything. Why are you so excited already?

Just wait for it......
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Lets wipe away all the useless horse sh it in this article and just go right into what it is that is ACTUALLY being presented here, shall we?

Why yes, we shall.

Ok, first we have the title itself;
"Bolton Says"...

Then after the typical di m, "I hate Trump!" babble we get;
"Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times..."
"describe Trump telling Bolton"..

"until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival."
"Tying the two together would.."
"indicate..."
"Democrats have said was the case..."
According to the Times,"
"Bolton alleged that.."
".. privately admitted there was no basis..."
".. he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients."

"Bolton also wrote that..."
"..Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call
.."
"Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times."
"Bolton also reportedly said..."
" he raised his concerns..."
"Bolton alleged that..."
"... the president mentioned him on the call,"
"according to the Times."
"A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation."
"Bolton’s account of.."
"Trump’s alleged remarks.."

"The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say...."
"if the Senate calls him..."



Hell of a lot of speculation here.
Not much actual proof or evidence of anything. Why are you so excited already?

Just wait for it......
Given your uncertainty as to the facts, I trust you want Bolton subpoenaed to clear things up for you.

No?

;-)
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
Lets wipe away all the useless horse sh it in this article and just go right into what it is that is ACTUALLY being presented here, shall we?

Why yes, we shall.

Ok, first we have the title itself;
"Bolton Says"...

Then after the typical di m, "I hate Trump!" babble we get;
"Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times..."
"describe Trump telling Bolton"..

"until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival."
"Tying the two together would.."
"indicate..."
"Democrats have said was the case..."
According to the Times,"
"Bolton alleged that.."
".. privately admitted there was no basis..."
".. he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients."

"Bolton also wrote that..."
"..Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call
.."
"Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times."
"Bolton also reportedly said..."
" he raised his concerns..."
"Bolton alleged that..."
"... the president mentioned him on the call,"
"according to the Times."
"A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation."
"Bolton’s account of.."
"Trump’s alleged remarks.."

"The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say...."
"if the Senate calls him..."



Hell of a lot of speculation here.
Not much actual proof or evidence of anything. Why are you so excited already?

Just wait for it......

Nothing more than a 'gotcha' before the democrats Argument gets totally destroyed today :(
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
and of course, lyin' Trump says Bolton is just saying this to help sell his book!! as if trump would not rent out his daughter if the money was right...

Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times describe Trump telling Bolton in August that he wanted to continue freezing nearly $400 million in congressionally approved military assistance to Ukraine until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival.

A key part of Trump’s defense in the impeachment process has been that his decision to withhold the aid was completely separate from his request for Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Tying the two together would indicate that Trump attempted a quid pro quo with a foreign government in order to sway the 2020 presidential election ― which Democrats have said was the case since the impeachment inquiry began.

According to the Times, Bolton alleged that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo privately admitted there was no basis to Rudy Giuliani’s claims that ousted U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was corrupt, and he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients.

Bolton also wrote that acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call during which Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times.

Bolton also reportedly said he raised his concerns about Giuliani’s shadow diplomacy with Attorney General William Barr after Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton alleged that he was the one who informed Barr that the president mentioned him on the call, according to the Times. A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation.

Bolton’s account of Trump’s alleged remarks were included in the former national security adviser’s unpublished manuscript, which he has been circulating to close associates. The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say in a testimony if the Senate calls him as a witness in Trump’s impeachment trial.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-bolton-trump-ukraine-biden_n_5e2e2630c5b6779e9c359031


Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump


I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens. In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination. If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book. With that being said, the...


49.3K

11:18 PM - Jan 26, 2020


who would trump voters believe- trump, the biggest liar in the world....or Bolton, not the biggest liar in the world?

if the republican senators wanted the truth, and a fair trial, as they took an oath to do, how could they not call Bolton to testify?

if trump voters were interested in the truth, and a fair trial, why would they not insist republicans senators call Bolton to testify?
More confirmation of what everybody already knows. But of course,the right no longer cares about shiite like that. All pretense has been abandoned.
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
More confirmation of what everybody already knows. But of course,the right no longer cares about shiite like that. All pretense has been abandoned.
"More confirmation of what everybody already knows."
Like how trump would rent out his daughter if the money was right..., confirmation of "facts" like that? Everyone, right or left should care about shiite like that.

Most of the posts in this thread do not indicate this though. You wonder why?

I don't.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Yet. You got wild over an unpublished, unverified, leaked transcript of something that hasn't even been written yet LOL

This falls on you Jim. After 3 years of nothing burgers you would think you might learn. Guess you aren't capable.
as readers can clearly see the only replies to your post are 'name calling and insults'

typical

Oh well, only libs are innocent until Proven guilty and a disgruntled ex-employee is now their new true friend.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Statement from Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley reported by many in the media, “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”


Whoops !!!

Topic over- Jim LOL
So, who's the Leaker? (if there is one)
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
More confirmation of what everybody already knows. But of course,the right no longer cares about shiite like that. All pretense has been abandoned.
Lie #1="$400,000,000" (posted by jim) and just on TV reported number is $391,000,000, so lie #1 makes whole screed bullschiff.

The only thing I read that's confirmed is the usual 'name calling and insults' posted by jim………………….he said they said someone said is not confirmation of anything.

If National Security Council is the only holder of manuscript we have a problem Houston.
 
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JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
John Bolton has the goods on Trump as do other members of the Trump admin......which is why Trump won't let them testify. Republican Senators better call witnesses. Sen Portman, don't come home unless your head is on a pike.

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff




The President blocked our request for Bolton’s testimony.

Now we see why:

Bolton directly contradicts the heart of the President’s defense.

If the trial is to be fair, Senators must insist that Mr. Bolton be called as a witness, and provide his notes and other documents.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1221571042159878146 …




The New York Times

@nytimes

Breaking News: President Trump said he wanted to keep aid to Ukraine frozen until its officials helped him with investigations into Democrats, John Bolton wrote in an unpublished manuscript of a new book https://nyti.ms/2vk9mjq

https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1221587570095722497
7:15 PM - Jan 26, 2020
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Their reactions prove once again that the only time Trump spoke the truth was when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose the support of his sycophants.

They defend anything and everything Trump says or does, no matter how atrocious.
That line is as old as dirt and only used when libs lose the debate, when did National Security Council release any of the material?
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
John Bolton has the goods on Trump as do other members of the Trump admin......which is why Trump won't let them testify. Republican Senators better call witnesses. Sen Portman, don't come home unless your head is on a pike.

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff




The President blocked our request for Bolton’s testimony.

Now we see why:

Bolton directly contradicts the heart of the President’s defense.

If the trial is to be fair, Senators must insist that Mr. Bolton be called as a witness, and provide his notes and other documents.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1221571042159878146 …




The New York Times

@nytimes

Breaking News: President Trump said he wanted to keep aid to Ukraine frozen until its officials helped him with investigations into Democrats, John Bolton wrote in an unpublished manuscript of a new book https://nyti.ms/2vk9mjq

7:15 PM - Jan 26, 2020

LOL You can't read. I'll make it larger so you can see.

The only thing Bolton has is hearsay, of policy discussions; the fact remains that regardless of whether Bolton is truthful or not, no threats left the White House, no policy was influenced, and the president acted within his responsibilities as chief law enforcement officer.
This is a vindictive move by a man who is having trouble digesting his dismissal.


These were anonymous sources, leaking, second hand and third and 4th hand info, to the NY Times, without anything factual LOL
And
He was never subpoenaed Wow you suck at facts,
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
and of course, lyin' Trump says Bolton is just saying this to help sell his book!! as if trump would not rent out his daughter if the money was right...

Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times describe Trump telling Bolton in August that he wanted to continue freezing nearly $400 million in congressionally approved military assistance to Ukraine until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival.

A key part of Trump’s defense in the impeachment process has been that his decision to withhold the aid was completely separate from his request for Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Tying the two together would indicate that Trump attempted a quid pro quo with a foreign government in order to sway the 2020 presidential election ― which Democrats have said was the case since the impeachment inquiry began.

According to the Times, Bolton alleged that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo privately admitted there was no basis to Rudy Giuliani’s claims that ousted U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was corrupt, and he believed Trump’s personal attorney was acting on behalf of other clients.

Bolton also wrote that acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was around for at least one phone call during which Trump and Giuliani discussed Yovanovitch, according to the Times.

Bolton also reportedly said he raised his concerns about Giuliani’s shadow diplomacy with Attorney General William Barr after Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton alleged that he was the one who informed Barr that the president mentioned him on the call, according to the Times. A spokesperson for Barr told the publication he denied that allegation.

Bolton’s account of Trump’s alleged remarks were included in the former national security adviser’s unpublished manuscript, which he has been circulating to close associates. The book, according to the Times, represents what Bolton might say in a testimony if the Senate calls him as a witness in Trump’s impeachment trial.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-bolton-trump-ukraine-biden_n_5e2e2630c5b6779e9c359031


Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump


I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens. In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination. If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book. With that being said, the...


49.3K

11:18 PM - Jan 26, 2020


who would trump voters believe- trump, the biggest liar in the world....or Bolton, not the biggest liar in the world?

if the republican senators wanted the truth, and a fair trial, as they took an oath to do, how could they not call Bolton to testify?

if trump voters were interested in the truth, and a fair trial, why would they not insist republicans senators call Bolton to testify?


There’s an easy way to tell that what’s being reported isn’t as big of a deal as it’s being framed.

Namely, by noting that the Times chose not to actually quote the manuscript directly. That tells you a lot about what is or isn’t actually in it given that the Times felt they needed to keep a certain level of ambiguity to maintain their narrative.

I have to think “bombshells” like this only jade the public more.
People are done with this story and Bolton’s book isn’t going to rescue it.


Deflect deflect Deflect !!! LOL
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Bolton attorney Charles Cooper comments, ““It is clear, regrettably, from The New York Times article published today that the prepublication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript,” Cooper says in a statement”

Rut Roh leaker at the NSC ?
Yup...guess the Senate should have Bolton testify, eh?
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
LOL You can't read. I'll make it larger so you can see.

The only thing Bolton has is hearsay, of policy discussions; the fact remains that regardless of whether Bolton is truthful or not, no threats left the White House, no policy was influenced, and the president acted within his responsibilities as chief law enforcement officer.
This is a vindictive move by a man who is having trouble digesting his dismissal.


These were anonymous sources, leaking, second hand and third and 4th hand info, to the NY Times, without anything factual LOL
And
He was never subpoenaed Wow you suck at facts,
Who you trying to convince, yourself?
<smirk>
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Bolton Says Trump and Pompeo Both Knew Aid Withheld to Bribe Ukraine

As did...
Mulvaney
Pence
Pence staff
OMB staff
DOD staff
Volker
Taylor
Yovanovich
Vindman
Parnas and Fruman
Giuliani
Nunes
McCarthy
McConnell
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
More confirmation of what everybody already knows. But of course,the right no longer cares about shiite like that. All pretense has been abandoned.
Can't get through to Republican senators today, not even at their state offices. "Sorry, the mailbox is full."
 
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