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No Brexit was already rejected. Why do you hate democracy?the 2nd referendum being a three-way between May's deal, No deal, and No Brexit.
No Brexit was already rejected. Why do you hate democracy?the 2nd referendum being a three-way between May's deal, No deal, and No Brexit.
Fascists purport to speak for “the serfs.” Which is how they claim legitimacy for overturning the results of elections they don’t care for in the name of the popular movement that elevates conservatives to power on their shoulders.Fascist everywhere must be rejoicing. Even if you put something to a referendum the "betters" if they don't get the result they want, will ignore and do what's best for the serfs anyway.
It gives hope for Fascist who dreams of overturning all elections they don't care for.
(hint #2: not the British people)Sounds like they should be reminded who they work for (hint: not the queen).
That's not fascism; it's oligarchism.Fascist everywhere must be rejoicing. Even if you put something to a referendum the "betters" if they don't get the result they want, will ignore and do what's best for the serfs anyway.
We did leave, on the 29th of March 2019. What they are now discussing is a new treaty with the EU. One which would tie us into the EU forever without any input into it - but they are pretending that ( pulling the wool over most voter's and many idiot MP's eyes) it is a withdrawal ( from the Union) act. They did the same thing, in reverse, in 1975 - in that first referendum the majority of the public ( including myself) thought that we were voting to join the Common Market or not - it was not until we were actually in the polling booth that we realised that we had already joined (in 1972) and were now voting on whether to stay or leave............. after a massive propaganda campaign to terrify the public into voting to join/stay.Or if they respected voters they could also leave the EU unilaterally without trying to make a deal first.
We left the EU on the 29th March 2019. You are talking about T May's new EU treaty which will not pass through either house.Not officially yet, just postponed... till it gets postponed again... till it gets postponed again... You get the idea on where this going... The only way out is to a 2nd referendum.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-latest-theresa-may-labour-talks-jeremy-corbyn-second-referendum-a8918271.html
They don't want one because they know that a greater majority of people, than before, now want to Leave. Plus --- it would be illegal.the 2nd referendum being a three-way between May's deal, No deal, and No Brexit.
There is no hard or soft Brexit - that is a remainer ploy to stay - there is only stay or leave. Which we did - we left. Someone forgot to tell Parliament that fact.British govt needs to comply with the original referendum first.
In fact, I hear there is a pro -brexit party crushing everybody in the polls and they are calling for a HARD exit. I say bravo chaps!
The EU is a facsimile of the old USSR.(hint #2: not the British people)
That's not fascism; it's oligarchism.
In theory only - none of these last votes have been binding. Everything Parliament has been doing since May was -- and fu'ck know how she was -- put into no 10 has been illegal and or not binding. She keeps putting 'what ifs' in front of Parliament to vote on - it is incredible - off the wall lunacy - she might as well be asking Parliament whether they prefer Tabby cats to Ginger cats no laws are being made or amended on their EU pretend votes. The Withdrawal Act was not amended and automatically went through/ratified on the 29th March 2019. Now she is trying to get a new treaty through but no one wants to play - even though she has openly blackmailed and bribed almost every MP in the bloody house. Parliament is no longer fit for purpose.Parliament voted against "No-deal" Brexit.
God you do talk a load of bull shit sometimes EatTheRich.Fascists purport to speak for “the serfs.” Which is how they claim legitimacy for overturning the results of elections they don’t care for in the name of the popular movement that elevates conservatives to power on their shoulders.
Fascists are probably happy because this is symptomatic of a system that is in crisis which affords them an opportunity if socialists don’t prevent it by rising to the occasion and seizing power themselves.
Fascists actually have a contradictory approach to the European Union. Fascists outside Europe are naturally hostile given the highly nationalistic character of fascism.
But within Europe: Italy, as a weak power allied with France and seeking to restrain Germany, was a firm supporter of the League of Nations, a sort of precursor to the EU.
Germany when it was a weak power challenging France was very hostile to European Union. As Germany allied with Italy, went to war, and humbled France to become the regional great power, they promoted a United States of Europe under Germany’s leadership (the dream the Federal Republic of Germany later achieved when it founded the had become an enemy of Germany’s intended partner in such an alliance, France under the Vichy government, and was hostile to a German-led Europe. Fascist Hungary, seeking to maintain good relations with Germany, supported a European Union. The clerical-fascist regimes in Austria and Croatia and their Polish allies supported the papacy as a counterweight to German and British imperialism and a center for reaction. Fascist Spain relied too much on shifting and fuzzy alliances to want a European Union. Fascist Portugal, a country that relied on its alliance with imperialist Britain, supported a European Union before the fall of the French, opposed one for a short time afterward, and supported one again after Italy joined the Allies.
Traditional British fascism was pro-Italian, pro-German, and loved the idea of a European Union dominated by the British and the fascist powers. Later, under the influence of rising capitalism-inspired resentment of E. European immigrants, and influenced by the rise to primacy of the United States, Britain’s special relationship with the U.S. as its historically preferred European ally, most British fascism turned anti-European Union. Similarly in France, French conflicts with the U.S. and NATO—when they were strongly supported by W. Germany—tensions with pro-independence fascist movements in the French colonies, fights between advocates of inflationary and deflationary monetary policy, and France’s resented but valuable (for the French rulers) of an alliance with the Federal Republic of Germany, led to fracturing of French fascism into pro-European Union factions and anti-European Union factions. Semi-fascist Romania was hostile to a European Union led by republics or by a pope willing to use its regime as a bargaining chip, although earlier Romanian fascists had endorsed a European Union dominated by imperialist France with Romania as its regional junior partner.
Irish and Greek fascism were the preferred regional allies of the Germans and supported a European Union, but Greek fascists turned against one as Turkey became the preferred regional ally. Scandinavian fascists were ultra-Germanophiles on racial and anti-Russian/Soviet grounds. Turkish fascists were opposed to European culture on social conservative grounds and therefore resisted the European Union. WWII-era Ukrainian fascists split between an Orthodox, anti-Catholic faction hostile to the Catholic-dominated alliance Hitler or his critics in the other fascist powers preferred, and a broad alliance of groups that wanted a powerful Germany to take charge against the Soviets/Russians, and more recently a pro-Russia, anti-EU fascist faction has grown up there.
Italian neo-fascists were split between a party that supported revanchist attacks on the world dominated by the UN in which the EU had its influence, often with ties to radical (sometimes fascist) anti-European groups in the semi-colonial world, and a pro-U.S. party which itself included a deflationist group that supported the EU as a way of stabilizing the money supply and strengthening anti-communist cooperation, and a group that opposed a German-dominated EU as a counterweight to American influence. German neo-fascists started out as very pro-European Union as the Nazis had been, and increasingly (but far from unanimously) turned against Union in the face of its reality, liberal support for it, the importance to it of the alliance with Turkey, which fascists tended to despise on racist and religious-bigot grounds, and increased E. European immigration. Neo-fascism in Serbia, Romania, and Russia was anti-German and anti-EU, while neo-fascism in Croatia couldn’t avow support for the EU (or Germany) without embarrassing Germany whose support was vital to Croatia in the wars with Bosnia, Serbia, and Republika Srpska. Some (usually secularist) fascist factions in Egypt and Syria wanted a strong (usually anti-U.S.) European Union to which their respective countries, if not much of the Middle East, was also admitted.
Who will call a legal strike? The Unions, what is left of them, are in the pay of and pro the EU. No-one will go on an illegal strike and anyway 'who are the workers now?'.They could call a general election which would likely lead to another hung parliament. And we would we be right where we are now.
The Executive is the Crown.Sounds like they should be reminded who they work for (hint: not the queen).
All 'No Confidence' votes have failed = we have no alternatives cosi fan tutte.They could call a general election which would likely lead to another hung parliament. And we would we be right where we are now.
A dictatorship lead by EatTheRich eh? The Irish and the Scots and the Welsh have devolved powers ( not really a good thing but ... they have them) and N ireland and Scotland had their referendums and voted to keep the Union together.If they could get organized labor on the same team it could break this logjam. But that would also require a fight for the national rights of the Irish and Scottish and a militant fight against Islamophobia and Jew-hatred.
How is it fascism when the Government is shown to have no powers, none at all?Fascist everywhere must be rejoicing. Even if you put something to a referendum the "betters" if they don't get the result they want, will ignore and do what's best for the serfs anyway.
It gives hope for Fascist who dreams of overturning all elections they don't care for.
My brother has been doing business with some Brits. The story is, that country's economy is going in the shitter. The pound/sterling is down in value to where it is almost equal to the American dollar. A lot of this is because half the country wants out of the EU and half doesn't.Not officially yet, just postponed... till it gets postponed again... till it gets postponed again... You get the idea on where this going... The only way out is to a 2nd referendum.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-latest-theresa-may-labour-talks-jeremy-corbyn-second-referendum-a8918271.html
No it isn't. It is because of indecision on the part of Les Elite.My brother has been doing business with some Brits. The story is, that country's economy is going in the shitter. The pound/sterling is down in value to where it is almost equal to the American dollar. A lot of this is because half the country wants out of the EU and half doesn't.
That could be, too. I'm just going by what Brits are telling my brother these days.No it isn't. It is because of indecision on the part of Les Elite.
I am English.That could be, too. I'm just going by what Brits are telling my brother these days.