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Burisma pressured Obama State Department officials to end corruption allegations

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Nutty Cortez, Nov 5, 2019.

  1. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    And the Poop JUST hit the fan.

    Hunter Biden and his Ukrainian gas firm colleagues had multiple contacts with the Obama State Department during the 2016 election cycle, including one just a month before Vice President Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company for corruption, newly released memos show.

    During that February 2016 contact, a U.S. representative for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with Undersecretary of State Catherine A. Novelli to discuss ending the corruption allegations against the Ukrainian firm where Hunter Biden worked as a board member, according to memos obtained under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. (I filed that suit this summer with the help of the public interest law firm the Southeastern Legal Foundation.)

    Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.”

    “Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, emailbetween State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).
     
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  2. FakeName

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    lol.

    John Solomon.

    "President Donald Trump’s attempt to force the government of Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden was launched through a disinformation campaign whose first and chief propagator was John Solomon, a conservative columnist with a pattern of publishing false and misleading stories. His work, according to the Washington Post, “has played an important role in advancing a flawed, Trump-friendly tale of corruption in Ukraine.”

    Nice try.
     
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  3. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    Got a link to prove this? The link provided just shows anyone can dummy up what ever they want.
     
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  4. Mick

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    Nice try to deflect from the facts but despite the liberal media's attempts to shut this story down it's beginning to catch. Your dislike for Solomon is funny and all but they have the actual email exchange. Why would a representative of Burisma be trying to appeal to the Obama/Biden administration to do something about the corruption allegations against Burisma and specifically point to Hunter Biden as a reason that it is important to end it?

    Quid Pro Joe certainly knew how to end it One month after the Burisma plea he would shake the Ukrainians down and threaten to withhold their military aid if they didn't fire the guy going after Burisma. Shokin was quickly gone, the next guy closed the case, and the rest is history......well, that is until 2019 came along.
     
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  5. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    why do you keep lying even when the truth keeps slapping you right across your huge gaping piehole? why do you quote conspiracy theorist John Solomon, who spews this unsourced bullshit who is such a liar even Trump believes his Crowdstrike dumbass conspiracy theory?

    Biden did not get Ukraine to fire anybody for PROSECUTING TOO MUCH, he was this country's point man to enforce our policy, and the EU's policy of getting Shokin, the corrupt pro-russian chief prosecutor TO PROSECUTE OBVIOUS CORRUPTION, WHICH HE WOULD NOT DO...JUST THE OPPOSITE!!

    As many fact checking sources have stated, Burisma was investigated in 2010 and 2012 and was cleared, 2 years BEFORE hunter biden was hired.....and this is another thing to consider, let us say Burisma did try to get the state dept. or Ukrainian prosecutors to lay off- what would that have to do with Hunter Biden, who according to trump and fox and solomon was hired just because of his last name and who did not have any real power in the company, just a figurehead?

    here is how the Irish Times wrote the headlline about how the EU was thrilled Shokin got fired, the one Trump told Zelensky he was "concerned about" because Joe Biden helped convince Ukraine to drop his corrupt, pro-Russian ass as part of US and EU policy-

    EU hails sacking of Ukraine's prosecutor Viktor Shokin

    https://www.irishtimes.com › news › world › europe › eu-hails-sacking-of-...

    Mar 29, 2016 - Viktor Shokin, who has been fired as prosecutor general of Ukraine after an ... prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the ... ensure that [his] office
     
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  6. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    Biden threatened to withhold a loan guarantee...not military aid.

    Why did a biparisan group of congressmen write a letter demanding the prosecutor be fired? Why did the IMF and EU want the guy fired?
     
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  7. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    The Documents are in the post. Just click the link.
     
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  8. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    Uh Jim. The emails proving what were stated- were linked.

    Did you miss it in your rage ? Here ya go lil guy !

    https://www.scribd.com/document/433389210/Bluestar-Novelli-Contacts
     
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  9. Plagiarism.
     
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  10. I see. So sometimes extortion is OK, depending on the leverage used.

    ROFLMAO!
     
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  11. Makes perfect sense. Obama preferred being led around the nose, er, "leading from behind". Trump steps in and LEADS and leftists go insane.
     
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  12. llovejim

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    what in the hell does that have to do with either biden or with trump withholding military aid unless ukraine publicly talked about investigating burisma and biden for trump's own political gain, at least in his tiny mind?
     
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  13. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    Did read anything eh ?

    Take your time. Peruse over them with your coffee and morning meds in the Mental Institution.
     
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  14. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    what a lie. trump bends over for putin, calls him a great leader, a good man, defends him when fox's own o'reilly called him a murderer, alerts him when he finally decides to go after Assad for using chemical weapons that he is going to send some of our least damaging missiles over to attack the landing strip where Assad and the Russians had the planes they used to attack citizens with chemical weapons, so Putin and Assad could get their planes off the runway, and none were damaged and the runway was so lightly damaged they were using it a day later....and you praise this bitch and talk about how brave he is?

    and trump bent over for Little Kim, said they "were in love," defended him for killing Otto Warmbier.....and you praise this bitch?

    and trump bent over for Erdogan who ordered trump to remove our troops who were protecting the Kurds so he could slaughter them, and you praise this bitch and talk about how brave he is?

    and trump refused to authorize sanctions against the Saudi Prince who tortured and murdered a Saudi journalist working for an American newspaper investigating the ties between the murdering Saudi Prince and his top adviser son in law Jared....and you praise this bitch and talk about how brave he is?
     
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  15. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    you read them, fake woman with an imaginary base. even if true, what the hell does it have to do with joe biden or his son or with Trump withholding vital military aid that Ukraine could use to defend itself from Putin, who calls trump his little bitch, if Ukraine did not publicly announce a new investigation into Burisma which trump somehow thought would hurt biden and help him politically?

    do you even see how even if true it is irrelevant?
     
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  16. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    Already did. I even gave you what to read.

    Let us holddddd your hand and show you.

    Ready ??? Good Boy !

    See the BLUE texts, those are called 'links'.

    When you click those, they open up to see the document ! yay !

    Hunter Biden’s name, in fact, was specifically invoked by the Burisma representative as a reason the State Department should help, according to a series of email exchanges among U.S. officials trying to arrange the meeting. The subject line for the email exchanges read simply “Burisma.”

    “Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).
     
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  17. Yes, because making sure Russia's enemy Ukraine is armed with US weapons is really bending over to Russia. Said no one. With half a brain. EVER.

    You seem to be obsessed with bending over. Anything you want to share with the rest of us?
     
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  18. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    hey, learn to read, then bend over for trump, okay? trump was not going to allow military aid go to Ukraine, to help fight Trump's boyfriend Putin, that Congress authorized...HOW IS THAT HELPING UKRAINE, NOT PUTIN? trump had an anti-ukraine rant going on, because they stood up to Putin, and he believed that silly ass crowdstrike conspiracy theory noted loon John Solomon had been promoting on Fox, thru Hannity's shitfest show, that somehow a DNC server in Ukraine was used to fool our military-intelligence experts believe Russia hacked DNC servers, not Ukraine!! trump believed that shit!! and believed Mueller's indictment of 12 Russian agents for hacking into those servers was part of the Deep State conspiracy!! that is the fool you support!!
     
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  19. llovejim

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    so? why do you believe this email was trying to stop any investigation, not initialize? and what does the business or ownership decisions of a Cypress based gas company owned by a rich shady Ukrainian have to do with biden's kid being an employee? trump and you and other trump voters kept saying biden had no expertise, no business being hired, no real reason except his last name, so what blame could he have even if the owner of the company was crooked? if the CEO of GE was indicted for fraud, would that make every employee of GE look bad or responsible?

    can't you see this is totally irrelevant bullshit, even if true?
     
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    middleview President Supporting Member

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    So when the threat is intended to manipulate an election it is ok with you?
     
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