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California first covid Case

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
They aren’t coded as COVId unless a positive diagnosis of COVId is present AND medical examiners determine that COVId is the primary cause of death. So many people who die of COVId are listed as having died of unspecified respiratory complications simply because they were not tested for COVId—even if the medical examiner listed “suspected COVId” as the cause of death, it still would not be counted as a COVId death—and even after patients’ infection is confirmed, doctors are under tremendous political pressure to list another cause of death. So COVId deaths are almost certainly grossly underreported.
That is an absurd lie.
 
Because capitalism and the political system built on its basis aren’t designed to protect human welfare, they are designed to protect profits for the wealthiest.
You say from the safety and security of a capitalist country, while the brown people you hate starve and die in the shitholes you praise but are too scared to live in.

LOL
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, but the "scientists" said 400,000 (on the low end) would DIE! 16,000 confirmed deaths (overstated by 100%).
They are still saying at least 70,000 will die, if social distancing continues through July ... otherwise many, many more. You are using the success of the left in instituting the measures needed to lower the death count as an argument for not taking those measures.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, we all understand that leftists lack the integrity to hold to the same standard across both sides of the aisle. Nutty stuff.
Both ruling-class parties put capitalist interests first. The right is just more blatant about it. The biggest problem with Democrats is how similar they are to Republicans.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
YOU ARE THE ONE BEING MISINFORMED! While I am the informed one, as I have repeatedly demonstrated. That you can sit there and suggest the opposite after I have repeatedly proven to you that your "news" sources are complete propaganda outlets. You reject the facts. You cling to the narrative even when it is proven false. You refuse to consult other sources for information, even after your "news" is shown to be bullshit. I wish I could think you are a "nice well meaning guy" but your posting history illustrates a deep ideologue with a very skewed (and screwed) viewpoint. When you reject FACTS that are presented to you, you simply cannot be "well meaning." At all.

leftists are not allowed to change their minds. It's double down on idiocy. Even when proven wrong.
 

EatTheRich

President
You say from the safety and security of a capitalist country, while the brown people you hate starve and die in the shitholes you praise but are too scared to live in.

LOL
People in socialist countries starve and die at lower rates than in the capitalist world, no (hence the higher life expectancies of those countries)? I am working for a world in which people are not starving and dying to satisfy the greed of the ruling billionaires.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Only for those who weren’t paying attention. Or did you think those budget cuts you (obediently) called for didn’t have consequences?
Jeesus..we were doing swell
I was interested in conversing...then boom...you went total dick elaborating on what your voices told you to think about me.... Jeebus
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

EatTheRich

President
From your link:

The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not.
Yes, because for people with a confirmed Covid19 diagnosis who die, it is the cause of death in the vast majority of cases
 
People in socialist countries starve and die at lower rates than in the capitalist world, no (hence the higher life expectancies of those countries)? I am working for a world in which people are not starving and dying to satisfy the greed of the ruling billionaires.
And yet you're still too scared to live in one. I get it, the brown people scare you.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Both ruling-class parties put capitalist interests first. The right is just more blatant about it. The biggest problem with Democrats is how similar they are to Republicans.
Nah. Both of those parties suck - and are unprincipled, buckling to whatever it takes to gain and hold political power.
Capitalism = economic freedom.
Communism = servitude.

Now then, about this phenomenon of crackpot leftists lauding Democrats like Newsome and Cuomo “heroes we deserve”...

Not the stuff of the normal, well-adjusted person.
 
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RickWA

Snagglesooth
I'm getting a catch-22 vibe...
The fact is that if a person dies, and if that person tests positive for COVID-19...that death is recorded and attributed to COVID-19.

The above fact...plus the fact that the VAST majority of folks are not/will not be tested...assuring no valid denominator... is why any volleyed death rates for this virus are fraudulent.

It sucks that my fellow countrymen are not only weak kneed cowards...but are drooling morons incapable of very basic critical thinking and 4th Grade math. :-(
 
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