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Jen

Senator
The left is not "pro abortion" and you framing it that way is dishonest. In the past you, too, have said you are pro choice. Why cannot you give other people the same freedom you give yourself to say you are pro choice without being described as "evil"?

The left is not "pro" an uneven justice system, quite the opposite as seen by organizations such as the SPLC and NAACP. The justice system is uneven and people with money and power can escape justice, on the right and on the left. That is a problem but it not a system that the left is "for."

Are there cases where euthanasia is the desired end for a patient? Yes, particularly in cases where the patient is in extreme pain and desires to end it, or sees themselves slipping into a state of dementia and wants to avoid burdening their family and can still make the decision to end it. Should families have the final say if the patient is still able to argue on their own behalf and override it? No.

I don't know what "pro Robin Hood ethic" is. There are areas in which the government can take advantage of economies of scale and do better for citizens such as water, sewer, roads, disaster relief, and we should continue to have the government oversee those. And there areas in which government involvement screws things up. But these areas are not an argument that government is always a bad thing. Again, nuanced thinking, not black and white "pull yourself up by the bootstraps is always the answer" responses, results in better outcomes.

The bottom line is "the left" is host to a whole range of opinions and beliefs, none of which you have accurately presented here. When you deal with a made up caricature it's easy to just wave it away with a label of "evil." But that's not an accurate representation of the left. And I think you know that.
Bottom line. Murder of an innocent is evil. Misquoting Jesus is evil. Justice that is not blind is evil. The Democratic Party promotes these things.

My answer was in the context of your question: Are ALL Leftists evil.

I gave a list of evils that reside in the Leftist camp then answered that "no" all Leftists are not evil.
 

BobbyT

Governor
Bottom line. Murder of an innocent is evil. Misquoting Jesus is evil. Justice that is not blind is evil. The Democratic Party promotes these things.

My answer was in the context of your question: Are ALL Leftists evil.

I gave a list of evils that reside in the Leftist camp then answered that "no" all Leftists are not evil.
Except that your list is a strawman. I get that it's easier to characterize positions as "evil" if you mischaracterize those positions into something they're not. The fact is the left and the right in the US are not that far off on any positions. That is, at least, unless they turn each other's positions into something unrecognizable. Which is, of course, the problem with political discourse these days. I just posted to you how your characterizations of the left's positions are incorrect, yet you persist in the belief that how you characterized the left is correct and "evil." If you won't read and heed what "the left" says their positions actually are, vice what you say they are, there's no point in continuing the discussion. You will persist in mischaracterizing the left's positions so you can call them evil. If finding a reason to believe the left is evil is what makes you happy, go be happy.
 

BobbyT

Governor
They speak for themself, jackass. I see you are an apologist in denial and a partisan hack.
They are out of context. If taking out of context quotes is sufficient for you, fine. I would certainly not want to take that away from you. Small minds and all that.
 

Jen

Senator
Except that your list is a strawman. I get that it's easier to characterize positions as "evil" if you mischaracterize those positions into something they're not. The fact is the left and the right in the US are not that far off on any positions. That is, at least, unless they turn each other's positions into something unrecognizable. Which is, of course, the problem with political discourse these days. I just posted to you how your characterizations of the left's positions are incorrect, yet you persist in the belief that how you characterized the left is correct and "evil." If you won't read and heed what "the left" says their positions actually are, vice what you say they are, there's no point in continuing the discussion. You will persist in mischaracterizing the left's positions so you can call them evil. If finding a reason to believe the left is evil is what makes you happy, go be happy.
Maybe that I went into detail on specific points you felt you had a "straw man" argument from me. I will glue it all together for you here.

Let's be clear. Our battle is not Democrat vs Republican. It is Progressive Socialism vs the United States of America. Democrat Progressives are in the process of taking a hard left turn toward Socialism. Progressive Socialism is evil.

Some Democrats will #walk away. They will not stay with the evil that the Democratic Socialists have become. Others will stay with the Democrat Socialist Party. Those who stay, are Evil.

I don't expect you to agree, but I do hope you and every other Democrat here will take a good hard look at your party and make what may be a difficult choice. I am not suggesting you move to the Republican Party by any means. And this is not a plea for you to support Trump. I don't know within what body or organization truth lies............but I do know that the Democratic Party is making a hard Left turn toward Evil.
 

John Doe

I detest liberalism
They are out of context. If taking out of context quotes is sufficient for you, fine. I would certainly not want to take that away from you. Small minds and all that.
Apologist in denial. Only a moron would try sugarcoating that venom.
 

BobbyT

Governor
Maybe that I went into detail on specific points you felt you had a "straw man" argument from me. I will glue it all together for you here.

Let's be clear. Our battle is not Democrat vs Republican. It is Progressive Socialism vs the United States of America. Democrat Progressives are in the process of taking a hard left turn toward Socialism. Progressive Socialism is evil.

Some Democrats will #walk away. They will not stay with the evil that the Democratic Socialists have become. Others will stay with the Democrat Socialist Party. Those who stay, are Evil.

I don't expect you to agree, but I do hope you and every other Democrat here will take a good hard look at your party and make what may be a difficult choice. I am not suggesting you move to the Republican Party by any means. And this is not a plea for you to support Trump. I don't know within what body or organization truth lies............but I do know that the Democratic Party is making a hard Left turn toward Evil.
If your list of what the Democratic Party supports is your evidence for the Democratic Party "making a hard Left turn toward Evil" then no you don't know any such thing, since your list, as I explained in my response to it, is all strawman. It's your made up positions that you attribute to the left, not the position of the left at all. If you're bound and determined to make that your argument so you can allow yourself to call an entire swath of the United States citizenry "evil," then that's what you're going to do. But it's based on a fabrication that I imagine you got from your QAnon purveyors of propaganda.
 
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