CBO: Deductibles Under Republican Health Plan Would Hit $13,000

[Spamature]

Those tax cuts for the Von Trumps are not free people everybody is going to have to pitch in to make them happen. Whether they can afford them or not is an unrelated issue.



CBO has produced an analysis of the latest Senate health care bill, and it’s basically the same as the original version. Compared to Obamacare, it would leave 22 million more people uninsured, and the people who were insured would mostly be getting useless crap:


Under this legislation, for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan (with an actuarial value of 58 percent) in 2026, the deductible for medical and drug expenses combined would be roughly $13,000, the agencies estimate….Because a deductible of $13,000 would be a large share of their income, many people with low income would not purchase any plan even if it had very low premiums….For people whose income was at 175 percent of the FPL ($26,500) and 375 percent of the FPL ($56,800), the deductible would constitute about a half and a quarter of their income, respectively.


Under current law in 2026, the deductible for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan with an actuarial value of 70 percent would be much lower—roughly $5,000.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/cbo-deductibles-under-republican-health-plan-would-hit-13000/

 

[marvin martian]

You think the government's 10 year financial predictions are any better than their 10 year global warming predictions?

 

[Spamature]

You think the government's 10 year financial predictions are any better than their 10 year global warming predictions?

Do you have a better set of projections ?

 

[marvin martian]

Do you have a better set of projections ?

Your dodge is noted.

 

[Spamature]

Your dodge is noted.

I didn't dodge. You seemed to say the CBO's projection were unreliable. So I asked for some that you consider more reliable.

Do you have an answer or will you dodge the question ?

 

[Dino]

Those tax cuts for the Von Trumps are not free people everybody is going to have to pitch in to make them happen. Whether they can afford them or not is an unrelated issue.



CBO has produced an analysis of the latest Senate health care bill, and it’s basically the same as the original version. Compared to Obamacare, it would leave 22 million more people uninsured, and the people who were insured would mostly be getting useless crap:


Under this legislation, for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan (with an actuarial value of 58 percent) in 2026, the deductible for medical and drug expenses combined would be roughly $13,000, the agencies estimate….Because a deductible of $13,000 would be a large share of their income, many people with low income would not purchase any plan even if it had very low premiums….For people whose income was at 175 percent of the FPL ($26,500) and 375 percent of the FPL ($56,800), the deductible would constitute about a half and a quarter of their income, respectively.


Under current law in 2026, the deductible for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan with an actuarial value of 70 percent would be much lower—roughly $5,000.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/cbo-deductibles-under-republican-health-plan-would-hit-13000/

LOL!!!

You act like we're not already there?

gahh, you're dishonest.

You could easily reach a 12,000 deductible with a "family plan", and it would need to skirt the law just to be legal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20131216/NEWS03/131219850/why-deductibles-may-bring-obamacare-sticker-shock

http://advantagebenefitsblog.com/12000-dollar-deductibles/

 

[marvin martian]

I didn't dodge. You seemed to say the CBO's projection were unreliable. So I asked for some that you consider more reliable.

Do you have an answer or will you dodge the question ?

You certainly did dodge. I asked you if you thought the government's fiscal predictions were of the same quality as their global warming predictions, and you dodged it. Want to answer now? I think I know why you don't...

 

[Spamature]

LOL!!!

You act like we're not already there?

gahh, you're dishonest.

You could easily reach a 12,000 deductible with a "family plan", and it would need to skirt the law just to be legal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20131216/NEWS03/131219850/why-deductibles-may-bring-obamacare-sticker-shock

http://advantagebenefitsblog.com/12000-dollar-deductibles/

I believe the numbers for that article are for an individual plan. You are posting links for a family plan. That is a minimum of 3 people's medical expenditures vs 1 person's medical expenditures.

 

[Spamature]

You certainly did dodge. I asked you if you thought the government's fiscal predictions were of the same quality as their global warming predictions, and you dodged it. Want to answer now? I think I know why you don't...

How about you tell me what global warming have to do with the CBO's score first ?

 

[marvin martian]

How about you tell me what global warming have to do with the CBO's score first ?

You answer my question, then I'll answer yours.

 

[Spamature]

You answer my question, then I'll answer yours.

I don't know, maybe ?

Now what does global warming have to do with the CBO score.

 

[marvin martian]

I don't know, maybe ?

Now what does global warming have to do with the CBO score.

I don't know, maybe something?

 

[Spamature]

I don't know, maybe something?

If you don't know, then why did you bring it into the discussion ?

 

[Dawg]

I believe the numbers for that article are for an individual plan. You are posting links for a family plan. That is a minimum of 3 people's medical expenditures vs 1 person's medical expenditures.

last night on Nightly News, a man said he and his wife's deductible was $30,000............w/ObamaCare!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You think the government's 10 year financial predictions are any better than their 10 year global warming predictions?

What "government 10 year global warming prediction"?

 

[marvin martian]

What "government 10 year global warming prediction"?

What a surprise, a dodge from Dodgy McDodgeface.

 

[marvin martian]

If you don't know, then why did you bring it into the discussion ?

It's why I asked you, but you're too embarrassed to answer, and I don't blame you.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Those tax cuts for the Von Trumps are not free people everybody is going to have to pitch in to make them happen. Whether they can afford them or not is an unrelated issue.



CBO has produced an analysis of the latest Senate health care bill, and it’s basically the same as the original version. Compared to Obamacare, it would leave 22 million more people uninsured, and the people who were insured would mostly be getting useless crap:


Under this legislation, for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan (with an actuarial value of 58 percent) in 2026, the deductible for medical and drug expenses combined would be roughly $13,000, the agencies estimate….Because a deductible of $13,000 would be a large share of their income, many people with low income would not purchase any plan even if it had very low premiums….For people whose income was at 175 percent of the FPL ($26,500) and 375 percent of the FPL ($56,800), the deductible would constitute about a half and a quarter of their income, respectively.


Under current law in 2026, the deductible for a single policyholder purchasing an illustrative benchmark plan with an actuarial value of 70 percent would be much lower—roughly $5,000.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/cbo-deductibles-under-republican-health-plan-would-hit-13000/

Millions less insured, higher rates, higher deductibles, less coverage...

Sounds like a GOP plan!

;-)

 

[Spamature]

last night on Nightly News, a man said he and his wife's deductible was $30,000............w/ObamaCare!

Not what the law says.

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/out-of-pocket-maximum-limit/

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

What a surprise, a dodge from Dodgy McDodgeface.

Translation: I can't identify one. But it seemed like a good dodging gambit.

;-)