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Spamature
President
These are dark times in Trumplandia . Give em a break.
Quit your preaching and just snitch already.
Hahahaha !
Zam-Zam
Senator
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Matthew 6: 21
Since your treasure seems to lie with who wins and loses elections, it is perhaps not surprising this is where your mind went. My treasure lies elsewhere.
Believe whatever it is you feel you need to. Peace.
Arkady
President
No, as I've pointed out repeatedly, that's not at all where "my treasure lies," even when it comes to the field of politics. That's a right-wing way of thinking -- right-wingers only seem to care about the political wins and losses -- bragging endlessly whenever their team is winning, even if the impact of that win in a significant worsening for the American people (see, for example, the Bush years, which were a great time to be a Republican, because of the score on the partisan scoreboard, but a time of nearly across-the-board decline for the people of America).
For me, politics isn't about who wins and loses elections. It's about moving forward with policies that actually improve the lives of the American people. If I could choose having Democrats win four out of five election cycles, but with a net result of worsening for America (for example, due to the magnitude of the back-slide in that fifth year), or having Republicans win four out of five election cycles, but with a net result of improvement for America (for example, due to the magnitude of improvement in that fifth year), I'd happily go with the latter. Politics isn't about having "bragging rights" from winning more elections. It's not like rooting for a sports team. It's about an effort to improve the lives of my fellow human beings. It's sad that almost nobody on the right is capable of thinking that way.
Arkady
President
No, as I've pointed out repeatedly, that's not at all where "my treasure lies," even when it comes to the field of politics. That's a right-wing way of thinking -- right-wingers only seem to care about the political wins and losses -- bragging endlessly whenever their team is winning, even if the impact of that win in a significant worsening for the American people (see, for example, the Bush years, which were a great time to be a Republican, because of the score on the partisan scoreboard, but a time of nearly across-the-board decline for the people of America).
For me, politics isn't about who wins and loses elections. It's about moving forward with policies that actually improve the lives of the American people. If I could choose having Democrats win four out of five election cycles, but with a net result of worsening for America (for example, due to the magnitude of the back-slide in that fifth year), or having Republicans win four out of five election cycles, but with a net result of improvement for America (for example, due to the magnitude of improvement in that fifth year), I'd happily go with the latter. Politics isn't about having "bragging rights" from winning more elections. It's not like rooting for a sports team. It's about an effort to improve the lives of my fellow human beings. It's sad that almost nobody on the right is capable of thinking that way.
Zam-Zam
Senator
Perhaps I should rephrase:
Your treasure lies with your political agenda being advanced.
As for your assessment of "right-wingers", I suppose that's the sad little bigotry you're happy to embrace. It's your way of telling yourself that you're better, somehow, than "those people". If you think that's what you need, so be it - It does harm to no one except for yourself.
Arkady
President
You have it completely backwards. I didn't wake up one morning and decide to embrace a particular political agenda for no particular reason. Nor did I receive my political agenda as part of a package of superstitions in church, as is so common in the US. Nor was I handed my political beliefs by an authority figure I couldn't bring myself to question. Instead, I came to my policy preferences gradually by way of observations of history and current events. The reason I support what I do is because I believe that's the path that is most likely to lead to the greatest improvement for the greatest number of people. That's where my treasure lies. If I had the choice between losing every political fight, but with fantastic results for my fellow humans, or winning every fight, but with poor results, I'd prefer the losing. It's just that --as you're very well aware-- things actually tend to go well when the policies I favor are pursued, and poorly when they aren't.
I'm an honest person, and so I won't pretend my political views aren't better than yours. Of course I believe they are. If I didn't think that, I'd toss away my views and adopt yours. I know it hurts your feelings that I regard your beliefs as inferior, but.... tough. It's not my job to shelter your delicate sensibilities from the truth. I'd only be helping your self-harm if I cooperated in helping you to avoid knowledge.
Zam-Zam
Senator
I must admit, few would defend their own bigotry with as much fervor as you have here. Unfortunately, this is not a healthy indicator, and points to some underlying issue that may be beyond the scope of this forum. Delusions such as those you possess preclude rational discourse, and so it is perhaps best that I leave you be until you are able to deal with your demons. I will pray for your recovery. Pax Vobiscum.
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Arkady
President
Do you not see the bigotry of assuming someone who disagrees with you must be suffering with demons? Tend to that plank in your eye.
Zam-Zam
Senator
Disagreement is fine, in fact, expected.
Declaring yourself a superior person to those who disagree with you is likely an indicator of a larger issue.
Don't fret about hurting my feelings, you were born without the ability to do that.
I sincerely hope you can find your way back to humanity. I'll pray for you. Be well.
C
Capitalist
Guest
Your assertion, your burden of proof.
Do you have any pre-election examples of down beat, down trodden posts from Zam? I find his evangelical stuff up-beat. Only Satan wouldn't think so.
Oh. I see.
C
Capitalist
Guest
Ehhhhh. . .have you seen your avatar?
C
Capitalist
Guest
C
Capitalist
Guest
Yes. A true Utilitarian. Spoken like a real genocidal maniac. Y'know, nuclear genocide would produce a tiny bit of pain for a large number of victims but reap huge pleasure for the more numerous survivors since there would be more food and jobs for them.
Logical genocide. Just like Germany 1942.
Zam-Zam
Senator
Perhaps we shouldn't pick on him too much - He may be a troubled individual.
Barbella
Senator
We have a 2004 Ford F-250 heavy duty gas truck with 353,000 miles on it. Still runs great, gave it to my grandson to use when he doesn't want to use his 196o-something Firebird.
Arkady
President
Yet, aren't you actually more guilty of that than me? You've asserted that I'm suffering with demons, and you've tried to attributed my beliefs to personality defects on my part. By comparison, I've merely asserted that I have better political ideas than you. Again, wouldn't it make sense for you to tend to that huge plank in your eye before worrying about the speck in mine?
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Arkady
President
It doesn't work that way when the question is the absence of something. Proving the non-existence of such posts isn't something I could do without calling up every single post he's ever made and walking people through them. By comparison, proving the existence of such posts is something he can do simply by linking to them. That he appears unable to do so invites the obvious conclusion.
