Actually it was more than 2.5 seconds. Time from when the penthouse collapsed to the time the rest of the building fell...because the weight of that structure falling through the middle of the building is what brought the rest down.
CIA Agent Gives Sworn Statement:‘We Brought Down the Twin Towers on 9/11
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Jet fuel that's a good one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10beijing.html
Fire Ravages Renowned Building in Beijing
Now that is a real fire not the puny smoke coming from a few floors of the WTC 7
The new York Times reported this massive fire; but Why did the story not ask the question " Why did this Massive FIRE not cause a collapse?
New York Times time did not ask this question nor did any other America British nor Canada news media ask that same question
No Fire has collapsed any Skyscraper before and after 9/11 only on this day fires collapsed 3 skyscrapers.
Other Skyscraper Fires
Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
The One Meridian Plaza fire
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
Was that building hit by a jet airliner at 400 mph?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10beijing.html
Fire Ravages Renowned Building in Beijing
Now that is a real fire not the puny smoke coming from a few floors of the WTC 7
The new York Times reported this massive fire; but Why did the story not ask the question " Why did this Massive FIRE not cause a collapse?
New York Times time did not ask this question nor did any other America British nor Canada news media ask that same question
No Fire has collapsed any Skyscraper before and after 9/11 only on this day fires collapsed 3 skyscrapers.
Other Skyscraper Fires
Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
The One Meridian Plaza fire
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html
This high rise did collapse after catching fire...it wasn't hit by an airliner either.
Days
Commentator
parts of bodies were recovered while whole skeletons were lost. uh-huh. You can be sure no jets crashed, and no bodies were recovered, this has been proven a 1000 times, and you don't care because you are a disinformation agent.
how about that jet that flew into the ground, MV? Want to run that by me?
I'm dying to hear you get totally stupid on me.
Days
Commentator
Wasn't hit by a commercial jet, that was already proven, but you keep repeating the Lie. A commercial jet would never have penetrated the steel that comprised the curtain wall of the WTC towers, even your president has admitted this, and it is his line of profession, so he should know.Was that building hit by a jet airliner at 400 mph?
This high rise did collapse after catching fire...it wasn't hit by an airliner either.
WTC tower fires did not consume the entire building, neither were the towers hot to touch, humans moved about in the towers freely, no one reported being burned by touching the structure anywhere below the fires. By the way, fires burn up; heat rises, fires do not burn downward. The towers - below the fires - were not even warm to the touch.
Just keep repeating stupid lies... and we will keep calling them stupid lies. Isn't this fun?
Queen Titania
Senator
I won't make a guess as to what actually happened to the Twin Towers, but watching the building in London burn recently tells me that if the Towers were hit by planes then pancaked as if there were explosives already there, that London building should have likewise pancaked. But it didn't.
Something is definitely fishy about the bringing down of the NYC Towers.
https://www.rt.com/uk/398878-grenfell-tower-empty-flats/
Due for demolition - it will be interesting to see how they do it in such a densely populated area. - So dense is the building there that the Fire Engines could not get close to the Tower -
georgephillip
Senator
Some people have made a great deal of money from motivating a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Great...an answer to a question I didn't ask. Again, why would anyone construct such an over engineered and complex plan when a simple one would have been far easier, required fewer people and done just as much damage?
Some people have made a great deal of money from motivating a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
A couple of trucks full of C4 or a fertilizer bomb would have done the trick if all you wanted to do was cause the towers to fall. All evidence would have been easily manufactured to point to Al Qaeda. You wouldn't have a trail from Afghanistan, to the classes in learning to fly jets, to the boarding passes for the hijackers.
That's what convinced me that there was something screwy going on with the Towers in NYC. I won't even guess what it was, but............
https://www.rt.com/uk/398878-grenfell-tower-empty-flats/
Due for demolition - it will be interesting to see how they do it in such a densely populated area. - So dense is the building there that the Fire Engines could not get close to the Tower -
georgephillip
Senator
Perhaps the penthouse collapse triggered the building's 2.5 seconds of free-fall acceleration?
http://www1.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/872-freefall-and-building-7-on-911-by-david-chandler.html
"Shortly before the ultimate collapse of the building the east penthouse and the columns beneath it suddenly gave way.
"NIST (the government agency assigned to investigate the building collapses) attributes the collapse of the east penthouse to the failure of a single column, in a complex scenario involving thermal expansion of beams supporting the column.
"But it is much more likely that at least two and possibly three supporting columns were 'taken out' simultaneously.
"Three columns supported the east penthouse.
"One of our German colleagues has pointed to evidence that the east penthouse fell through the interior of the building at close to freefall, evidenced by a ripple of reflections in the windows as it fell. Yet the exterior of the building retained its integrity.
Trump doesn't know shit about physics, mass, inertia...he knows financing and real estate development.
Proven? Explain the commercial jet debris on the pavement and the roof tops of buildings nearby....No commercial jet? This is from the street near the WTC. That looks like part of a fuselage to me.
Part of the wing assembly found wedged in an alley between two
buildings in 2013.
Here we have part of an engine.
And if I'm not mistaken, that is a wheel from a Boeing passenger jet.
The video shows you are wrong.
Nobody says fire consumed the building.
"More likely"? For the conspiracy nuts, maybe. Nobody knows exactly how much damage was done to the interior supports by the debris from WTC 1 as it crashed through the front of the building....As it burned for nearly 7 hours before the collapse...how does that seem simultaneous to you? "Ripple of reflections"? Really? And while the exterior maintained it's integrity for about 2 seconds...has it hit you yet that when the debris from the penthouse and intervening floors hit the bottom floor that it would have caused great damage to the outside walls all the way around the building and would have damaged any support those outside walls had from the interior floors....pulling the upper sections of the outside walls inward?Perhaps the penthouse collapse triggered the building's 2.5 seconds of free-fall acceleration?
http://www1.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/872-freefall-and-building-7-on-911-by-david-chandler.html
"Shortly before the ultimate collapse of the building the east penthouse and the columns beneath it suddenly gave way.
"NIST (the government agency assigned to investigate the building collapses) attributes the collapse of the east penthouse to the failure of a single column, in a complex scenario involving thermal expansion of beams supporting the column.
"But it is much more likely that at least two and possibly three supporting columns were 'taken out' simultaneously.
"Three columns supported the east penthouse.
"One of our German colleagues has pointed to evidence that the east penthouse fell through the interior of the building at close to freefall, evidenced by a ripple of reflections in the windows as it fell. Yet the exterior of the building retained its integrity.
They recovered 1,500 pieces of human remains. DNA examination identified all 40 passengers by December 2001. There were 600 lbs of human remains.
Read the section titled aftermath.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
No jets?
This is part of the fuselage.
This is part of an engine from the field in PA.
Queen Titania
Senator
Looks like a still shot from Dr WhoThey recovered 1,500 pieces of human remains. DNA examination identified all 40 passengers by December 2001. There were 600 lbs of human remains.
Read the section titled aftermath.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
No jets?
This is part of the fuselage.
This is part of an engine from the field in PA.
georgephillip
Senator
Are you imagining the collapse of WTC7's "facade"?
http://www1.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/872-freefall-and-building-7-on-911-by-david-chandler.html
"NIST claims that the collapse of their one key column led to a progressive collapse of the entire interior of the building leaving only a hollow shell. The collapse of the building, seen in numerous videos, is described by NIST as the collapse of the 'facade,' the hollow shell.
"They have no evidence for this scenario, however, and a great deal of evidence contradicts it.
"After the collapse of the east penthouse there is no visible distortion of the walls and only a few windows are broken at this time. Had the failure of interior columns propagated throughout the interior of the building, as asserted by NIST, it would surely have propagated to the much closer exterior walls and distorted or collapsed them. (Major crumpling of the exterior walls, by the way, is exactly what is shown in the animations produced by NIST's computer simulation of the collapse.)
"But the actual videos of the building show that the exterior remained rigid during this early period.
"At the onset of collapse you can see in the videos that the building suddenly goes limp, like a dying person giving up the ghost. The limpness of the free falling structure highlights by contrast the earlier rigidity."
And this is all based on the video taken from some distance which doesn't even show the lower floors....and all in less than 5 seconds from the start of the fall of the penthouse...
I showed you how much damage was done to the front of the building, yet you continue to ignore that and pretend the building had a few minor fires and suddenly collapsed....the firemen abandoned the building hours before because it was unstable immediately after having been struck by the falling WTC 1 debris. It burned for nearly 7 hours after WTC 1 fell.
What possible scenario can you come up with that someone first engineered the destruction of WTC 1 and WTC 2 and then 7 or 8 hours later blew up WTC 7? How in hell does that make sense?
Pick one of the conspiracy theories and explain the planning...Queenie thinks there were no jets...that somehow all of the hundreds, if not thousands, of people watching were hypnotized into seeing jets...but it was really a movie being shown by all major networks and appearing in video from paid "tourists/actors" around New York and New Jersey.
Some people say they were military jets, somehow substituted by the CIA or the military, for the United and American flights. Of course the minor matter of what do you do with the hundreds of passengers that witnesses saw board those flights...
So then the planners, over a period of months, put bombs into these buildings and blow them up....HOURS APART? Really?
Again...if you wanted to blow up these buildings, why not drive trucks into the garages underneath and blow them up with remotes? The conspiracy theories all involve thousands of people in so many different organizations that it is simply impossible to prevent leaks and simply due to the complexity, unlikely to succeed without major
evidence being left behind....and in spite of the theories...they have no unimpeachable evidence at all.
Queen Titania
Senator
Yeah, it wasn't like there was any confusion or that someone might have said WTC 7 is about to collapse and it was inadvertently misunderstood to say that it had...
As if that is proof of anything at all.
Looks like part of a plane which was flown into the ground, killing 40 innocent people. But I'm glad you can make a joke of it....
