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Arkady

President
Last year was a blisteringly hot one, globally -- the warmest in the instrument record (going back 137 years), and likely the warmest in 120,000 years, based on paleoclimate reconstructions. 2017 was expected to be much cooler, since global temperatures tend to be highest in El Niño years and lower in the subsequent La Niña cycle. We saw something similar in 1999, when the '98 El Niño ended and the global temperature anomaly dropped by a third, such that '98 was the eighth hottest year and '99 was the twentieth.

What's extraordinary, though, is how little relief we're getting from the global heat wave, this time around. March had the biggest temperature anomaly of any non- El Niño month on record. In fact, the first quarter of this year was warmer than the first quarter of 2015 (currently the second-warmest year on record), despite there having been El Niño conditions at the time. The only thing keeping us from setting records right now is just how intense the heat was last year, at the height of the El Niño event.

This suggests that we have almost arrived at a place where the underlying trend of anthropogenic warming is so strong that it overwhelms the impact of other cycles even over short timelines. In other words, we are getting closer to a future where every year is hotter than the last.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
The Trump team is working on this existential threat, amping up the burning of coal and other fossil fuels, disabling the EPA, forbidding climate change research, and terminating global warming pacts with the world community.
 
yep - them glaciers been melting since the end of the last glacial maximum, 10,000 years ago.

and there weren't even any SUVs or Hollywood hypocrites with private jets back then.

but we're still cooler than the temperatures "recorded" at 1,000 AD. see chart below

 

Arkady

President
yep - them glaciers been melting since the end of the last glacial maximum, 10,000 years ago.

and there weren't even any SUVs or Hollywood hypocrites with private jets back then.

but we're still cooler than the temperatures "recorded" at 1,000 AD. see chart below

No, we aren't. You're relying on data that ended in 2007, which leaves out seven of the ten hottest years on record.
 

Arkady

President
The Trump team is working on this existential threat, amping up the burning of coal and other fossil fuels, disabling the EPA, forbidding climate change research, and terminating global warming pacts with the world community.
There's a good chance that in a hundred years nearly all the crap we fret about these days will seem like little more than noise -- for example, Islamist terrorism will occupy the same basic space in the historical mind as the "bomb throwing anarchists" of a century ago do for us. But global warming will just look more and more important, and how people dealt with it will define their legacies almost to the exclusion of everything else (the same way we think of American politicians of the 1820s through 1860 almost entirely in terms of how they came out on slavery issues). Who cares where, say, James Buchanan came out on tax policy? As bad as Trump looks to thinking people today, he's going to wind up looking much worse in retrospect.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
There's a good chance that in a hundred years nearly all the crap we fret about these days will seem like little more than noise -- for example, Islamist terrorism will occupy the same basic space in the historical mind as the "bomb throwing anarchists" of a century ago do for us. But global warming will just look more and more important, and how people dealt with it will define their legacies almost to the exclusion of everything else (the same way we think of American politicians of the 1820s through 1860 almost entirely by how they came out on slavery issues). Who cares where, say, James Buchanan came out on tax policy? As bad as Trump looks to thinking people today, he's going to wind up looking much worse in retrospect.
Agreed, but I don't think it will take 100 years to reach that conclusion. The harmful effects are occurring already and they are increasing at an exponential rate. The seizing of complete power by Trump and the GOP was the death blow for the planet.
 

Arkady

President
Agreed, but I don't think it will take 100 years to reach that conclusion. The harmful effects are occurring already and they are increasing at an exponential rate. The seizing of complete power by Trump and the GOP was the death blow for the planet.
The planet, as a planet, will be fine, but it was the death blow for tens of millions of people and countless species. Most humans will survive it, but generations will live with significantly decreased quality of life, because we'll end up buying the pounds of cure when we might instead have invested in the ounces of prevention.
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
It warms my heart to know that a million years from now the Earth will be a verdant green paradise again.

And man will be nowhere to be seen.

This is why 'global warming' doesn't matter. Nothing we do on this Earth matters. Eventually, through one mechanism or another, Man will go extinct and the Earth will go on.

Until the Sun explodes in a few billion years, that is.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
The planet, as a planet, will be fine, but it was the death blow for tens of millions of people and countless species. Most humans will survive it, but generations will live with significantly decreased quality of life, because we'll end up buying the pounds of cure when we might instead have invested in the ounces of prevention.
Jeez, now I feel much better.

;-)
 
Last year was a blisteringly hot one, globally -- the warmest in the instrument record (going back 137 years), and likely the warmest in 120,000 years, based on paleoclimate reconstructions. 2017 was expected to be much cooler, since global temperatures tend to be highest in El Niño years and lower in the subsequent La Niña cycle. We saw something similar in 1999, when the '98 El Niño ended and the global temperature anomaly dropped by a third, such that '98 was the eighth hottest year and '99 was the twentieth.

What's extraordinary, though, is how little relief we're getting from the global heat wave, this time around. March had the biggest temperature anomaly of any non- El Niño month on record. In fact, the first quarter of this year was warmer than the first quarter of 2015 (currently the second-warmest year on record), despite there having been El Niño conditions at the time. The only thing keeping us from setting records right now is just how intense the heat was last year, at the height of the El Niño event.

This suggests that we have almost arrived at a place where the underlying trend of anthropogenic warming is so strong that it overwhelms the impact of other cycles even over short timelines. In other words, we are getting closer to a future where every year is hotter than the last.
What are you doing to help?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
So just as I thought...nothing. At least @Arkady comes up with some creative bullshit like separating his recyclables and voting for Democrats when I ask him that question. Can't you do any better?
If you were smart and had not had your mind warped, you would know that what any one person does, short of acquiring sensible climate change policies, does not affect the climate. Indeed, any one person could die without affecting climate change.
 

Spamature

President
Last year was a blisteringly hot one, globally -- the warmest in the instrument record (going back 137 years), and likely the warmest in 120,000 years, based on paleoclimate reconstructions. 2017 was expected to be much cooler, since global temperatures tend to be highest in El Niño years and lower in the subsequent La Niña cycle. We saw something similar in 1999, when the '98 El Niño ended and the global temperature anomaly dropped by a third, such that '98 was the eighth hottest year and '99 was the twentieth.

What's extraordinary, though, is how little relief we're getting from the global heat wave, this time around. March had the biggest temperature anomaly of any non- El Niño month on record. In fact, the first quarter of this year was warmer than the first quarter of 2015 (currently the second-warmest year on record), despite there having been El Niño conditions at the time. The only thing keeping us from setting records right now is just how intense the heat was last year, at the height of the El Niño event.

This suggests that we have almost arrived at a place where the underlying trend of anthropogenic warming is so strong that it overwhelms the impact of other cycles even over short timelines. In other words, we are getting closer to a future where every year is hotter than the last.
California went from drought to all time record rainfall and its not even over yet. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/14/what-permanent-drought-new-all-time-rainfall-record-set-for-california/



This is not normal.
 
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Arkady

President
What are you doing to help?
You've asked that repeatedly. I've answered repeatedly in great detail. Then you've lied willfully about what I said and I've linked to the actual exchanges to prove definitively that you were lying. But you know all that. You just enjoy trolling.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
No, we aren't. You're relying on data that ended in 2007, which leaves out seven of the ten hottest years on record.
Wow, they kept records 1,100 years ago? I had no idea.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
The planet, as a planet, will be fine, but it was the death blow for tens of millions of people and countless species. Most humans will survive it, but generations will live with significantly decreased quality of life, because we'll end up buying the pounds of cure when we might instead have invested in the ounces of prevention.
Sorry, the ten years Al Gore gave us to fix it are up already. We're doomed.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
No, we aren't. You're relying on data that ended in 2007, which leaves out seven of the ten hottest years on record.
SHOCKING NEWS

IT'S HOT IN THE SUMMER

and

COLD IN THE WINTER

(college should seriously return much of your education back to ever who paid) my guess Taxpayers!
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
The planet, as a planet, will be fine, but it was the death blow for tens of millions of people and countless species. Most humans will survive it, but generations will live with significantly decreased quality of life, because we'll end up buying the pounds of cure when we might instead have invested in the ounces of prevention.
You will not be alive to be concerned........YOU have no idea what will be in 100 years even though you think you are the wise know it all...........hell.........you can't for certain post what tomorrow will in reality be!
 
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