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FakeName

Governor
Then why can't she admit that she's a socialist?
Because she doesn't consider herself a socialist.

The US economy, like all successful economies, is by definition a "Mixed Economy", in other words it is a socialist/capitalist hybrid.

Most politicians who form economic policy fall on that socialist/capitalist hybrid spectrum as well.

Elizabeth Warren falls on that spectrum.

I realize you disagree with her, that is fine, but she is neither nuts nor a liar.

Can we all go back to being adults?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Because she doesn't consider herself a socialist.

The US economy, like all successful economies, is by definition a "Mixed Economy", in other words it is a socialist/capitalist hybrid.

Most politicians who form economic policy fall on that socialist/capitalist hybrid spectrum as well.

Elizabeth Warren falls on that spectrum.

I realize you disagree with her, that is fine, but she is neither nuts nor a liar.

Can we all go back to being adults?
But her platform isn't a "mixed" one - every single policy is more government intervention, more wealth redistribution and extremely anti-wealth/business. You can't call that a "capitalist agenda" unless you are either stupid or lying.
 

Nostra

Governor
Because she doesn't consider herself a socialist.

The US economy, like all successful economies, is by definition a "Mixed Economy", in other words it is a socialist/capitalist hybrid.

Most politicians who form economic policy fall on that socialist/capitalist hybrid spectrum as well.

Elizabeth Warren falls on that spectrum.

I realize you disagree with her, that is fine, but she is neither nuts nor a liar.

Can we all go back to being adults?
She is a lying sack.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Sure it is.

Right on the spectrum.
Name one policy she supports that would make markets less controlled and/or one that helps businesses rather than workers/consumers. You didn't include any examples because there are none. So I'm pointing that out - you made a wholly unsupportable statement. There isn't a tissue paper width between her agenda and Bernie's (who admits he is a socialist). You, sir, are a propagandist.
 

FakeName

Governor
Name one policy she supports that would make markets less controlled and/or one that helps businesses rather than workers/consumers. You didn't include any examples because there are none. So I'm pointing that out - you made a wholly unsupportable statement. There isn't a tissue paper width between her agenda and Bernie's (who admits he is a socialist). You, sir, are a propagandist.
You misunderstand.

Why would she need policies that make markets less controlled to be consistent with a mixed economy?

She thinks markets are not currently controlled enough and should be more controlled

I realize you disagree but her position is perfectly consistent with a mixed economy.

A great many of her policies would benefit business.

Universal health care would take the economic burden of providing insurance off of businesses. For those who do not provide a insurance it would help them by making their employees healthier.

Oh and policies that help consumers and employees do help businesses.
 

reason10

Governor
As long as they have a D next to their name, you will hate them. You’re trained that way.
Nobody here has suggested any hate. All we're doing is definition of character. This is the most batsheet crazy group of Democrats in a generation.

The D group this season is more radical and anti-American than the USSR. They are making Trump's landslide reelection easy. He doesn't even need to hold rallies (although that continent sized ego of his won't allow him to forego them). He can just repeat what they have said at the debates and it's over.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You misunderstand.

Why would she need policies that make markets less controlled to be consistent with a mixed economy?

She thinks markets are not currently controlled enough and should be more controlled

I realize you disagree but her position is perfectly consistent with a mixed economy.

A great many of her policies would benefit business.

Universal health care would take the economic burden of providing insurance off of businesses. For those who do not provide a insurance it would help them by making their employees healthier.

Oh and policies that help consumers and employees do help businesses.
That's hooey - there is not a demonstrably more capitalist bent to Warren's agenda than Bernie's - and he admits he is a socialist. Why are you so studiously ignoring that aspect of this debate?
 

reason10

Governor
Why do you think Elizabeth Warren is Nuts?

Legitimate question:


https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/06/26/little-bighorn-in-reverse/
WARREN: What is happening at Homestead to children, what is happening as the direct result of activities of the United States government is wrong. It is a stain on our country and we must speak out. We speak out as a people, we speak out as moral citizens, not just of the United States, but of the world. We will stay here at Homestead until this facility releases these children and closes down. (crowd chants “shut it down.”)

RUSH: Is she gonna stay there through the debate? She says she’s not leaving ’til they shut the thing down. It’s a total, total photo-op



I mean I realize you don't like her policy positions and such but you can see that she is perfectly rational and very intelligent right?

Are you part of the problem?


The problem we have is the fact that she is a total phony and a liar. She LIED to get into college. In fact, not only is she NOT Indian, her ancestors actually FOUGHT Seminole Indians in Florida.

Admit it. If ANY Republican candidate had made a video where he/she asked for and drank a beer on camera just to look more down home, you'd be laughing your assss off and calling that person every kind of phony in the world.

Warren complains about the high cost of college educations, but she was paid $400,000 a year as a professor.

Put her on a debate stage with President Trump, assuming she doesn't completely wig out and try to do a rain dance, she's toast. There's NOTHING in her life or her campaign that can compete with President Trump's amazing record. He doesn't really have to do much. Just let her talk, and she'll talk him into a second term.
 

FakeName

Governor
That's hooey - there is not a demonstrably more capitalist bent to Warren's agenda than Bernie's - and he admits he is a socialist. Why are you so studiously ignoring that aspect of this debate?
It isn't an aspect of this debate.

She fits right on the capitalist/socialist spectrum.

Bernie identifies as a socialist she does not.
.you don't have to like it, nor do you have to like her policies, but saying she is either nuts or liar is just false.

It makes you part of the problem.

Let's get back to being adults.
 

reason10

Governor
Lol

You actually quoted Rush Limbaugh?!
Are you surprised? He is a major figure in American media. He is the FATHER of modern talk radio, having completely rescued the AM dial from certain extinction. There are radio talk show hosts who owe their careers to him.

I know you envy him because he's rich and you're not. Most of America agrees with him, not you.

Of course any educated individual will quote THE DOCTOR OF DEMOCRACY.
 

FakeName

Governor
Are you surprised? He is a major figure in American media. He is the FATHER of modern talk radio, having completely rescued the AM dial from certain extinction. There are radio talk show hosts who owe their careers to him.

I know you envy him because he's rich and you're not. Most of America agrees with him, not you.

Of course any educated individual will quote THE DOCTOR OF DEMOCRACY.
Lol

I will let your post speak for itself.

Super funny.
 

Caroljo

Senator
Um.........you are a Trump supporter.

He lies about all things big and small regularly.

And no she didn't lie about being part Indian. She retold what she had been told as a kid about it.

Lots of people have stories like that that get passed down. Now with genetic testing we find out some aren't true.

So what?

You support Trump, what about his lies?
Oh......she "retold what she had been told as a kid". So, with no PROOF of it, or finding out what percentage of Indian she is. Just like all other leftists, she took what she was told and ran with it. No matter how untrue it may be. Typical. I think she used it to her advantage, which ended up making her look like an idiot.
 
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