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Democrats are more dangerous than Covid 19

Some of them are being sacrificed due to the lack of a 100% complete mandatory quarantine. What makes the lives of those who are "saved" by these half measures worth more than the lives of those who are being sacrificed by them?
Now we're down to it aren't we. Our manifest destinyish "way of life" has always been a matter of sacrificing human lives for "progress". Capital will decide. It already has, and we see it doubling down on neoliberal economics yet again in real time, as america insanely awaits a different outcome.
 
A “100% mandatory quarantine” would lead to many other deaths from poverty. What we should do is look at how strict a quarantine should be in order to minimize the number sacrificed.
All we had to do was get out ahead of it with testing and tracing to test positives. See S Korea. We blew it.


The US and S Korea diagnosed their first COVID-19 cases on the exact same day: Jan 21.

For profit lean six sigma hellthcare.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Perhaps they care more about the American people than about protecting the elites the EC protects.
You mean by making the electoral process one great big easy to manipulate clusterfuck? Yeah, that sure is protecting the American people. Hell, democrats can't even tally their own primaries without screwing it up.

Perhaps they care more about the American people than about the “rights” of big government.
Or the rights of individual states to govern their own people, apparently.

Pretty much no Democrats have called for an open border. That is almost exclusively the province of the far right (Libertarian Party) or far left (some communists and anarchists).
Don't lie. Every single one of the presidential candidates have called for an abolition of the border, and you personally have called for the withdrawal of laws concerning illegals.

General opposition to law enforcement comes from the far left (or sometimes the far right), not from Democrats who are so pro-cop that several of their presidential candidates have been endorsed by police unions.
Several candidates and top ranking democrats have called for the disbanding of ICE and you support groups like BLM who have killed cops. Again, you're a liar.

You can’t be “for” law enforcement without qualification and ALSO for due process. Anyway, the ONLY real defenders of due process are on the far left while the Democrats and Republicans have worked together to attack it for decades.
After the Kavanaugh fiasco and groundless impeachment, your claim that democrats defend due process is comical and makes me laugh.

The Democrats have a bad record on this. Then again, Trump is the most pro-gun control president since Clinton.
And yet Trump still doesn't come close to democrats on this issue
This is something both major parties as well as fringe extremists on both sides have attacked. The most consistent defenders of free speech are, once again, on the far left.
HAHAHA fascists defending free speech. I suppose that's what the destruction of college campuses and the physical attacks on journalists was all about. Defending free speech.

Remind me who arrested a bunch of people for protesting Trump’s inauguration. To the extent that attacks on freedom of assembly are coming from the left, it is mostly the far left (Antifa) and not Democrats.
When you destroy property during a protest, you should be arrested.


You mean voter suppression?
I mean making sure the people making one of the most important decisions they could make for the country are who they say they are. Only a democrat would label that "voter suppression".


Democrats love the military and consistently vote to fund it.
OMG HAHAHAHA!!!!!

You just love those "Baby killers" who "raid the homes of innocent people in the middle of the night" huh?


Feel free to link to a Democrat attacking this.
Antifa, BLM, actually, most left wing special interests.


Democrats love capitalism and consistently support it.
Now I know you're lying. YOU don't even support capitalism and you wrongly blame it for nearly every ill in the world.

The one that is getting us killed by the hundreds of thousands? Why would anyone oppose that?
Because it's still the best healthcare system in the world.


The only attacks on the existence of Congress as a separate and co-equal branch of government that I’ve seen have come from the White House.
That sure wasn't the case when Obama was in charge. LOL

How about its historic role as a bastion of leftist politics?
You mean like the long standing democrat opposition to civil rights?
 

Colorforms

Senator
I can voice me opinion on any elected or appointed government officials no matter which of the two sleazy corrupt parties he or she belongs to. And yes that is something big. Try doing that in Russia, Either Korea, Saudi Arabia, Japan, China, Cuba or Iran. If Trump had his way, we’d be joining the above mentioned countries.
I know it's a big thing. I just find it funny that is the only thing you care for about America. Seems to me this is not the place for you then.
 
We've already told you. Homo's approval in NY is the most meaningless stat. It's all low IQ Democrats giving him that rating. Numb nuts.

Who is responsible for NY medicaid reimbursement rates being so low that 16 hospitals had to shutter their doors? Homo

Who is responsible for failing to buy 16,000 ventilators when they were offered to him on discount? Homo

Who is responsible for telling New Yorkers they had nothing to fear as the virus raged? Homo and De Blabio

Who is responsible for plotting fishing trips with his brother as his people die?
Homo

Facts matter. Left wing insanity does not.
Wow, the childish name calling is over the top in that one. You've out done yourself.
 

EatTheRich

President
You mean by making the electoral process one great big easy to manipulate clusterfuck? Yeah, that sure is protecting the American people. Hell, democrats can't even tally their own primaries without screwing it up.
A national popular vote in which hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes separated the top two candidates would be much harder to eliminate than the current system in which a margin of only a few hundred might be enough to win all a state’s electors.

Or the rights of individual states to govern their own people, apparently.
Again, I disagree with the statist presupposition that states have a right to “govern” (repress) “their own people.”

Don't lie. Every single one of the presidential candidates have called for an abolition of the border
Absolute bullshit. Link?

and you personally have called for the withdrawal of laws concerning illegals.
I have called for an end to deportations and for equal rights for immigrants. I am also of the far left I spoke of and not a Democrat.

Several candidates and top ranking democrats have called for the disbanding of ICE
A position widely supported by the American public due to their Nazi-like abuses.

and you support groups like BLM who have killed cops. Again, you're a liar.
Again, I’m not a Democrat. They are pro-cop. I am not.

Anyway, your claim that BLM has killed cops is another lie.

After the Kavanaugh fiasco and groundless impeachment, your claim that democrats defend due process is comical and makes me laugh.
Read my post again. I made it quite clear that the Democrats don’t defend due process.

And yet Trump still doesn't come close to democrats on this issue
He’s worse than Obama ... not as bad as the worst Democrats.

HAHAHA fascists defending free speech.
No, I said “far left.” Fascists are far right.

I suppose that's what the destruction of college campuses and the physical attacks on journalists was all about. Defending free speech.
I don’t condone that whether it comes from the left or the right. The only consistent defenders against attack from all quarters have been, as I stated, on the far left.

When you destroy property during a protest, you should be arrested.
Irrelevant to the Trump administration’s mass arrests of peaceful protesters based on the political content of their protests.

I mean making sure the people making one of the most important decisions they could make for the country are who they say they are. Only a democrat would label that "voter suppression".
In person voter impersonation accounts for less than one in a billion votes cast. Not enough to tip any election. On the other hand, as many as 2% of otherwise legally qualified voters are stopped from voting by voter suppression laws.

OMG HAHAHAHA!!!!!

You just love those "Baby killers" who "raid the homes of innocent people in the middle of the night" huh?
Nope. Democrats do, though.

Antifa, BLM, actually, most left wing special interests.
Link to demonstrate that the members of these groups are Democrats and that these groups have contested the peaceful transition of power.

Now I know you're lying. YOU don't even support capitalism and you wrongly blame it for nearly every ill in the world.
I don’t support capitalism. I’m not a Democrat. The Democratic Party is a capitalist political party. They do support capitalism.

Because it's still the best healthcare system in the world.
Outcomes say otherwise.

That sure wasn't the case when Obama was in charge. LOL
Not like it is now.

You mean like the long standing democrat opposition to civil rights?
There have always been right-wingers here. But up till the days of imperialism, with a few exceptions, the left was on the offensive (pressing for civil rights, extirpation of slavery, etc.), and the right on the defensive.
 
I know it's a big thing. I just find it funny that is the only thing you care for about America. Seems to me this is not the place for you then.
That’s not true at all. Where did you get such a silly idea? The US is my home and I love it here. I have traveled this country for 50 years. I love the diversity of the land. The great Cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Tucson ...I love the spectacular geography throughout this country. Mountains, forests, plains, deserts and coastlines. But the greatest thing is the diversity of the people from all these different regions.

Despite what people who really haven’t been around might think from reading the hateful, divisive posts on a forum like this or watching divisive news programs which put down different states and labeling them as red or blue, most people are pretty nice and respectful regarding where someone comes from. We all have a lot more in common than what divides us. What do you like about America?
 

Colorforms

Senator
A national popular vote in which hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes separated the top two candidates would be much harder to eliminate than the current system in which a margin of only a few hundred might be enough to win all a state’s electors.



Again, I disagree with the statist presupposition that states have a right to “govern” (repress) “their own people.”



Absolute bullshit. Link?


I have called for an end to deportations and for equal rights for immigrants. I am also of the far left I spoke of and not a Democrat.



A position widely supported by the American public due to their Nazi-like abuses.


Again, I’m not a Democrat. They are pro-cop. I am not.

Anyway, your claim that BLM has killed cops is another lie.



Read my post again. I made it quite clear that the Democrats don’t defend due process.


He’s worse than Obama ... not as bad as the worst Democrats.



No, I said “far left.” Fascists are far right.



I don’t condone that whether it comes from the left or the right. The only consistent defenders against attack from all quarters have been, as I stated, on the far left.



Irrelevant to the Trump administration’s mass arrests of peaceful protesters based on the political content of their protests.


In person voter impersonation accounts for less than one in a billion votes cast. Not enough to tip any election. On the other hand, as many as 2% of otherwise legally qualified voters are stopped from voting by voter suppression laws.



Nope. Democrats do, though.


Link to demonstrate that the members of these groups are Democrats and that these groups have contested the peaceful transition of power.


I don’t support capitalism. I’m not a Democrat. The Democratic Party is a capitalist political party. They do support capitalism.


Outcomes say otherwise.



Not like it is now.



There have always been right-wingers here. But up till the days of imperialism, with a few exceptions, the left was on the offensive (pressing for civil rights, extirpation of slavery, etc.), and the right on the defensive.
You keep making these baseless claims and they are still BS.
 
Wow, the childish name calling is over the top in that one. You've out done yourself.
I think that guy is a 14 year old kid whose political views are fed to him by third rate political commentators on Fox News and AM radios. Grown men don’t call people Homo’s in political debates. Maybe he’ll grow out of it when he gets to High School.
 

Colorforms

Senator
That’s not true at all. Where did you get such a silly idea? The US is my home and I love it here. I have traveled this country for 50 years. I love the diversity of the land. The great Cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Tucson ...I love the spectacular geography throughout this country. Mountains, forests, plains, deserts and coastlines. But the greatest thing is the diversity of the people from all these different regions.

Despite what people who really haven’t been around might think from reading the hateful, divisive posts on a forum like this or watching divisive news programs which put down different states and labeling them as red or blue, most people are pretty nice and respectful regarding where someone comes from. We all have a lot more in common than what divides us. What do you like about America?
Yes, most people in America are nice, and they are good people. My response to you comes from the fact that it is the only thing you could name about this country that you liked. If there was more, you didn't indicate it in any way.

There isn't much about this country I don't like. We have the highest standard of living in the world. Our poor still have a better standard of living than the middle class in most other countries. When there is a problem in the world, we are invariably the first to help and we always help more than other countries. Despite the left's attacks, we still have a strong religious and cultural heritage that is uniquely American. Class mobility is high, and we are one of the most productive countries in the world. Most innovation comes from us.

I used to like that our central government was more hands off, but that has changed in the past 50 years. I am a strong advocate for state's rights, and feel that in nearly all matters, the state should trump the federal government within its border. We are a great country with good people. It sickens me that there are those who feel we don't have the capability of governing ourselves, and want the federal government to take away options and choices.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, most people in America are nice, and they are good people. My response to you comes from the fact that it is the only thing you could name about this country that you liked. If there was more, you didn't indicate it in any way.

There isn't much about this country I don't like. We have the highest standard of living in the world. Our poor still have a better standard of living than the middle class in most other countries. When there is a problem in the world, we are invariably the first to help and we always help more than other countries. Despite the left's attacks, we still have a strong religious and cultural heritage that is uniquely American. Class mobility is high, and we are one of the most productive countries in the world. Most innovation comes from us.

I used to like that our central government was more hands off, but that has changed in the past 50 years. I am a strong advocate for state's rights, and feel that in nearly all matters, the state should trump the federal government within its border. We are a great country with good people. It sickens me that there are those who feel we don't have the capability of governing ourselves, and want the federal government to take away options and choices.
The U.S. has a relatively low level of class mobility and a lower standard of living than many other countries in general, let alone for the poor. The U.S. causes more problems for the rest of the world than it solves.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
These 2 fed judges prove your title line true


Yes, during a pandemic turn illegals out on the streets...………to spread COVID-19
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
A “100% mandatory quarantine” would lead to many other deaths from poverty. What we should do is look at how strict a quarantine should be in order to minimize the number sacrificed.
Ah, now you admit that the measures we are taking is going to cause deaths. Perhaps less, perhaps more than the deaths from coronavirus. Which is precisely what I have been saying all along. What makes the lives lost from economic hardship - suicide, murder, drug and alcohol abuse - "okay" while deaths from Covid-19 are deemed unacceptable?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Truth, justice and the ethics of law before self, kinda like nepotism is not allowed by law but he disregards it like so much junk. His love of the flag is ironic since he would not serve to protect it. The list is so long, but i know you can not see it for the blinders you wear.
Obama didn't even serve in the Kenyan military, his home country. Do you suppose he thought that being president for eight years would earn him his citizenship papers?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
What an idiotic response. You need to get some new material champ.
Historically speaking, though, the Democrat Party is the party of slavery. That same mentality still exists in the Democrats today. There are some exceptions but they are rare and silent.
The Republican Party was created as the party of prohibition.
I grew up in a society ruled by racists and Democrats. Democrats of today still have the same hate-filled intolerance, bigotry and racism that created the KKK, segregation, lynchings and church bombings.
You are in the wrong political party, my friend.
 
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