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Did poor and dumb whites elect Trump?

Discussion in 'Op Ed' started by John Doe, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. John Doe

    John Doe #WALKAWAY

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    Thought I would help remove some ignorance from you folks that like making this claim. Reading my threads can be both fun and educational.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls

    In the end, according to exit polls, the election result seems to have been more about the clear backing of America’s white and wealthy voters for Donald Trump – including white graduates, and white female voters.

    Far from being purely a revolt by poorer whites left behind by globalisation, who did indeed turn out in greater numbers for the Republican candidate than in 2012, Trump’s victory also relied on the support of the middle-class, the better-educated and the well-off.

    Of the one in three Americans who earn less than $50,000 a year, a majority voted for Clinton. A majority of those who earn more backed Trump.

    Clinton’s lead among non-white voters was substantial, but not enough to make up the difference. It was also less than many anticipated – and less than Barack Obama’s four years previously.

    Data from CNN’s Edison national election poll, based on a sample of 24,537 respondents at 350 polling stations, is not definitive – the US census board will provide that – and has contained errors in the past.

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    The polling guru Nate Silver, editor of FiveThirtyEight, said exit polls had done an “awfully bad job” on Tuesday night, initially predicting a Clinton landslide.

    But on the poll’s evidence, although the disaffected, economically insecure white blue-collar voters to whom Trump was always going to appeal certainly helped him win in rustbelt states such as Michigan, they cannot explain the new Republican president’s performance nationwide.

    What appears to have made the biggest difference on the night was the turnout for Trump of white voters across the board – of both sexes, almost all ages and education levels, and from mid- and higher income levels.

    Among the more startling data to emerge from the poll:

    • White voters, who make up 69% of the total, voted 58% for Trump and 37% for Clinton. Non-white voters, who make up 31% of the electorate, voted 74% for Clinton and 21% for Trump.
    • White men opted 63% for Trump and 31% for Clinton; white women voted 53% for Trump and 43% for Clinton.
    • Among non-college-educated whites, 67% voted for Trump – 72% of men and 62% of women.
    • Among college-educated whites, 45% voted for Clinton – 39% of men and 51% of women (the only white demographic represented in the poll where the former secretary of state came out on top). But 54% of male college graduates voted for Trump, as did 45% of female college graduates.
    • More 18- to 29-year-old whites voted for Trump (48%) than Clinton (43%).
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    Trump collected just 9% of black votes from the same age group, and 24% of Latinos. Compared with Obama four years ago, Clinton underperformed with black and Latino voters generally, winning 88% of the black vote overall, against Obama’s 93%, and 65% of the Latino vote, against Obama’s 71%.

    Trump, meanwhile, while winning just 8% of the black vote, collected 29% of the Latino vote – two percentage points more than his 2012 predecessor, Mitt Romney.

    Broken down by income bracket, 52% of voters earning less than $50,000 a year – who make up 36% of the electorate – voted for Clinton, and 41% for Trump.

    But among the 64% of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.

    Don't like the source? Here is another.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ere-not-working-class/?utm_term=.0404f90e626f
     
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  2. John Doe

    John Doe #WALKAWAY

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    OK, the usual suspects that call Trump voters poor and dumb white trash, run from facts, noted.
     
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  3. John Doe

    John Doe #WALKAWAY

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    So not one liberals that spouts this bigoted and false meme is willing to debate it after more than 3 days? I kinda know how Shapiro feels...
     
  4. Days

    Days Governor

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    2 weeks later and still...

    crickets
     
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  5. John Doe

    John Doe #WALKAWAY

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    But they are so adamant, in repeating talking point by rote.
     
  6. Puzzling Evidence

    Puzzling Evidence Free range human living on a tax farm.

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    I have respect for the people of the United States and even though I am not a Republican, I often side with them and I LOVE the south.

    I think that many people who voted for Trump had good reasons. They did not want more 1990's type "3-strikes" policies and yet more unchecked power awarded to women and minorities over their own interests. Trump has been good for the economy and is not nearly as conservative as Liberals believe him to be.
     
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  7. AnnieOakley

    AnnieOakley Guest

    No, poor and dumb whites voted for Hillary.
     
  8. Woolleybugger

    Woolleybugger Mayor

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    The vote defines the person. It just so happens that a large segment of our white brothers and sisters fell for a con man. Now the mark never considers themselves stupid or dumb, that would be a sign of honesty most marks never display. So rather than look at charts of data, one only has to look at the macro level of our current situation. Trump is the dumbest most reckless and least knowledgeable POTUS to ever occupy the office. This is truth not opinion. If you voted for him, you are by association just as dumb, stupid and ignorant. I cleaned this up for you, no need to dig into reams of data to hide your shame or guilt.
     
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  9. Fast Eddy

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    The everyday working person who makes up most of America is who voted for Trump. The loony left is a small noisy group that will lose once again.
     
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  10. Jen

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    It doesn't matter. A good percentage of Americans are dumb when it comes to politics, so that could be said about Hillary voters too.
     
  11. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Governor

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    So, Annie,I am happy to see another Buckeye. One from Greenville, Ohio, just up the road from me.:p
     
  12. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Governor

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    Then you will be pleased to know the Democrat running for Governor of Ohio wants a law that wull stop non violent first offenders a chance to stay out of prison,get help.

    His Republican opponant who has watched an Opoid epidemic explode in his 8 years as AG wants them all jailed!
     
  13. AnnieOakley

    AnnieOakley Guest

    I'm happy that you're happy, you should ask him out.
     
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  14. Tor-Pete-O

    Tor-Pete-O Mayor

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    "It just so happens that a large segment of our white brothers and sisters fell for a con man."

    So you're actually talking about Obobo not Trump. Glad we could clarify.
     
  15. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Governor

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    Oh,trust me, I do have a man friend from Greenville, i do not have to ask him, thank you.but doubt you are the real Annie.
     
  16. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Governor

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    You actually compare a brilliant,well Educated man to Trump? Good one!
     
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  17. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Governor

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    Well, Jen, that is one of the most brilliant things you have ever posted, considering you voted for the con man!

    Thank you!:p
     
  18. AnnieOakley

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    No sh!t
    I never claimed to be the real Anne
    I'm a half white, half Chinese albino.

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  19. The Sage of Main Street

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    Yahoos for Chief Wahoo

    The height-challenged tribe that met the first White settler described him as being as tall enough to look a deer in the eyes. Adult whitetail deer (virginianus) are 6 to 7 feet tall.
     
  20. Woolleybugger

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    I should have added for your consideration that they are all likely racists as well.
     

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