Spamature
President
Why did Trump lie and say it was about adoption ?
Be brave, don't run from the question.
Donald Trump Says Son’s Trump Tower Meeting Was To Get Clinton Dirt But ‘Totally Legal’
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Be brave, don't run from the question.
Drumcollie
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EatTheRich
President
Fusion GPS was paid ... what is illegal is to accept gifts from foreign nationals, not to hire them for services.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Which, of course, makes all the difference in the world? Um no. So paid for dirt is has more veracity than that which is offered for free? That, of course, is absurd. Do you think any of those Steele meetings with Russians were to discuss dirt on Trump before any money was paid? That is patently ridiculous - you don't pay to hear the pitch. The fact remains - there was no dirt "given" to Trump.
EatTheRich
President
The question isn’t veracity, it’s legality. There was dirt given to Trump ... for example, Russia launched an electronic warfare attack on the U.S. right after Trump publicly exhorted them to.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Seriously? Russia never "electronically attacked" the US before Trump "publicly exhorted them to?" Seriously, you guys need to get a grip - it's histrionics like this that make Trump a sympathetic figure in American politics.
georgephillip
Senator
Trump's reasoning on all things Russian has more to do with his family's prosperity AFTER he leaves the White House than it does with his sworn obligation to defend the US Constitution:
https://www.ft.com/trumptoronto
"Tom Warner, a US-based corporate investigator specialising in Russia and Ukraine, is among those who spoke to the FT who believe that Trump’s outlook is shaped by the alignment of his interests with those who brought him the money that sustained his career.
"When Trump turns on longstanding US allies and suggests that Russia be readmitted to the G8, some analysts see ulterior motives.
"Such scrutiny intensified this week after Trump attended a Nato summit in Brussels, visits London to meet prime minister Theresa May and was then due to sit down with Russian president Vladimir Putin in Helsinki. 'Putin or his chosen successor will be there long after Trump leaves office,' Warner said. 'And [Trump and his children] need the family business model to still be there.'
"The tale of the Trump Toronto illuminates what it means for the US to have a leader whose business model has long depended on exchanging his family name for money with a murky past, no questions asked."
Bugsy McGurk
President
What they did beforehand is not the issue.
The issue is Trump publicly calling on Russia to get and release Hillary’s emails, and the Kremlin’s decision that very night to launch their massive cyberattack on Hillary and Dem organizations.
You support that, right?
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Of course it is THE issue. The Russians were hacking our elections for the past several decades (at least) before 2016. What Trump said had precisely zero effect on those efforts. You guys are mischaracterizing this run of the mill constant surveillance in which super powers engage and then using it to create from whole cloth a (fake) concerted effort to put Trump in the White House.
Bugsy McGurk
President
Another example of your absolute refusal to acknowledge reality.
You simply pretend that the Kremlin has always worked in cahoots with its preferred American presidential candidate to violate US law to illegally interfere in our elections, even launching the cyberattacks after the candidate urges them to do so. Of course, that has never happened before.
Your dishonesty is laughable outside the circles of the deplorable Trump rabble.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No, I CORRECTLY point out that Russia has been "meddling" in our elections for decades (as we have in theirs). The "dishonesty" here is your suggestion that there is proof they did so "in cahoots with its 'preferred' American presidential candidate." As I CORRECTLY pointed out, their "cyberattacks" were going on both before, and after, "the candidate urged them to do so."
Bugsy McGurk
President
As you well know, there is no historical precedent for the facts I outlined above. You can point to none. You dodge the point and vaguely babble. Evidence of the very dishonest hackery from which you suffer.
And you put “preferred” in quotes as if there’s some question about whether the Kremlin preferred Trump. Of course, the very emails setting up the Trump Tower meeting confirm that Trump was the Kremlin’s preferred candidate, and Putin himself confirmed it at the Helsinki press conference where Trump once again kissed Putin’s ass.
Raoul_Luke
I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You have innuendo, not "facts." The FACT is that the "Kremlin" folks at the Trump Tower meeting met BEFORE and AFTER with Fusion GPS. You will call that babble because adhering to the facts is (obviously) not your strong suit.
Bugsy McGurk
President
More lies. The emails and Putin statements expressing the Kremlin’s preference for Trump are facts, not innuendo. You see your role as denying facts in order to engage in your pro-Trump hackery.
For some “bonus dishonesty,” you then seek to equate the Kremlin’s direct actions on behalf of Trump with the Fusion GPS to reveal those actions. More atrocious dishonesty.
or about grandkids and golf!
Spamature
President
Or about be cow towed by pee tapes or accepting bribes in return for sanctions relief or wanting to screw his own daughter.
so that's what Slick & Lynch talked about...………..thx
Spamature
President
I wouldn't doubt if they talked about Trump's Putin puffing.
It's a great way to laugh at and or mock you chumps and suckers.
puffing fo dollars
Puffer
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