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Fighting for justice in Minneapolis

Or it could be that the false narrative of systemic racism was slammed into overdrive under his Administration.
Well I am sure that Trump’s compassion, understanding and soothing demeanor have really helped to quell things down between the races. He’s a real uniter.....lol
 
Using that very same , well, "logic", for lack of a more truthful word, wouldn't that also mean that if race relations worsened under Trump its only because a bunch of ignorant, (Ooopps...almost forgot the double standard for using insulting term about others....uhhhh...insert derogatory term for black Americans here..), were so pissed off that another white man dared to be elected President again that they went nuts?

Or, as I suspect, is this too just somehow, (D)ifferent?
Under Trump, guys like the KKK and Nazis who marched on Charlottesville felt empowered and vindicated by his election and started sowing their oats again like back in the good old days when the white man truly reigned supreme. They were “good people” in Trumps opinion. I was at a place in Ohio when a Trump rally let out in 2016. There sure were a lot of those “good people” filing out screaming obscenities and threatening TV reporters and crews who were there to cover the event and tossing crushed beer cans out the windows of their MAGA pickups. Trump has a huge following among the White Nationalist crowd. There are a few of them on this forum.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Obama was the worst president in history. He handed Trump the worst economy of all time and a foreign policy where we almost had ISIS on our streets.

It took the Pelosi House to now have the American version of ISIS on our streets, known as ANTIFA.

Trump ended the Obama disaster and it's going to take four more years to completely repair the damage done by the Democrats. Most Americans know this, and most will NOT elect that racist Alzheimer's ridden old fart Biden to the Presidency.
The worst economy of all time, eh? I'd say the worst economy of the century is right now, chump. Obama handed Trump a 4.5% unemployment rate, 6.9% for African Americans. In February, before COVID, the unemployment rate was 4.8% and African American unemployment was 5.9%. BFD. Of course it is closer to 20% at the moment, but I'm sure you'll figure out a way to blame someone else.

Trump's "leadership" is abysmal. The fact that he allowed the group dedicated to gathing info on potential pandemics to be dismantled and then comes up with a variety of excuses...."It wasn't me"...."I'm a business man, I don't like THOUSANDS of people sitting around...we'll just hire them back when we need them" and then "It was a good thing and allowed that group to be better than it was"....

Nobody has linked Antifa to the violence. Let me know when they do.

"Almost had ISIS on our streets" has got to be one of your dumber posts. Isis controlled 40% of Iraq in 2014. That was when Iraq asked for help. They controlled five of the largest cities in Iraq...Ramadi, Kirkuk, Mosul, Tikrit and Fallujah..The combined Iraqi population under the control of ISIS was about 2.7 million.


By the end of 2016 ISIS had control of just half of Mosul. East Mosul was liberated just 5 days after Trump took office. Do you actually think Trump had anything to do with that? The Iraqi government reported ISIS was in control of just 7% of Iraq and most of that was a desert strip between Mosul and Syria.


Let us not forget that ISIS wouldn't even exist if not for George W Bush and his disastrous invasion and the policies followed in our occupation.
 

reason10

Governor

The worst economy of all time, eh? I'd say the worst economy of the century is right now, chump.


Thanks to the Democrats.

And you REALLY need to give up that LIE about the pile of steaming shittt Trump inherited from the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT. FOOD STAMP use was at an all time high. People had given up on looking for a job because of that incompetent sack of manure.

Trump is the greatest leader America has ever had. You've already lost that argument.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The worst economy of all time, eh? I'd say the worst economy of the century is right now, chump.

Thanks to the Democrats.

And you REALLY need to give up that LIE about the pile of steaming shittt Trump inherited from the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT. FOOD STAMP use was at an all time high. People had given up on looking for a job because of that incompetent sack of manure.

Trump is the greatest leader America has ever had. You've already lost that argument.
Food stamp usage was high because of the Bush recession. If you were right there would be a big jump in the labor force participation rate. Guess what....didn't happen.
LFPR was at 62.8% in January 2017 and was 63.2% before Covid. Now it is 60.2%...

Good job Donald.

Keep making excuses for Trump...he needs the help.

 
How about this "number?"

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I guess if you dig through a couple 1000 economic graphs you can always find one that suits your purpose. That’s a honey you dug up, I never even heard of this one. Kudos. This must be what caused the Great Depression of 2009. I know I was selling pencils and standing in soup lines during those years. Reason 10 was right on target as usual. Thank God Trump came in and bailed us out!!! Rofl...

The old CGDPGLFDI.... Who doesn’t watch that one on a daily basis? Lol
 
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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Much better. 148% stock market increase, strong improvement in unemployment rate and no riots or COVID-19.
Yes, because nothing says economic success like the filthy rich getting filthier rich based on free money from the fed:

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LOL! Yeah, and "unemployment" is a great measure of economic "success" except when it drops because discouraged workers are leaving the workforce:

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And we know it was a great economy because the median incomes rose so much:

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And why have wages stagnated? Because the quality of jobs has declined:

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You still think the Obama economy was so "awesome" do ya? How about we look at one last measure:

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So, while the stock market was rocketing up 148%, poverty was stuck at an elevated level.

You still going to try and spread the bullshit that Obama's economy was so great? Yeah, of course you will, because you are a propagandist.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I guess if you dig through a couple 1000 economic graphs you can always find one that suits your purpose. That’s a honey you dug up, I never even heard of this one. Kudos. This must be what caused the Great Depression of 2009. I know I was selling pencils and standing in soup lines during those years. Reason 10 was right on target as usual. Thank God Trump came in and bailed us out!!! Rofl...

The old CGDPGLFDI.... Who doesn’t watch that one on a daily basis? Lol
So you are saying that you actually can borrow and spend your way to prosperity then?
 

UPNYA2

Mayor
Under Trump, guys like the KKK and Nazis who marched on Charlottesville felt empowered and vindicated by his election and started sowing their oats again like back in the good old days when the white man truly reigned supreme. They were “good people” in Trumps opinion. I was at a place in Ohio when a Trump rally let out in 2016. There sure were a lot of those “good people” filing out screaming obscenities and threatening TV reporters and crews who were there to cover the event and tossing crushed beer cans out the windows of their MAGA pickups. Trump has a huge following among the White Nationalist crowd. There are a few of them on this forum.
"Under Trump, guys like the KKK and Nazis who marched on Charlottesville felt empowered and vindicated by his election and started sowing their oats again..."

Perhaps some did.
But everyone who marched in Charlottesville were not KKK or Nazis.
Look at it like how people keep saying there are some looters and rioters out stealing and destroying cities all over the US but they just happen to have mingled in with the majority Sunday school teachers and homeless shelter volunteers out peacefully protesting. Maybe that will help. (Though I do have my doubts.)

"They were “good people” in Trumps opinion."

Flat out lie. Never said. Even worse, you know it as well as I do. It was said that there were some good people on both sides of the argument. Those were not the KKK or Nazis though.

We may as well use your lack of logic today and say di ms/li bs support, defend and promote theives, vandals and killers, call them rightous, good people because they praise protestors and there happen to be some of these types among them, right? So we can't say there are good people among them and it not get lied about and stated we think the criminals are good people.

You need to stop. Save your own reputation. You should be better than this in my opinion.
 

reason10

Governor
Trump now down to 33% of retards thinking he is doing a great job
M A G A ..... LMAO
In your imagination only, snowflake.

You are going to cry your left wing eyes out when Alzheimer Joe concedes at 10 p.m. on Election night.
 
So you are saying that you actually can borrow and spend your way to prosperity then?
WTF do you think Trump’s economy is based on? Huge tax cuts for corporations and billionaires paid for by the biggest deficit spending in history. That along with deregulation measures for international bank percentage swindlers.

Are you in any way suggesting that Trump has reversed any of the negative trends that you accuse the Obama administration of creating. You are the propagandist here Raoul, not me. All these obscure, self serving, bullshit maps and charts you pull out of websites funded by right wing “think tanks” don’t mean jack shit.

Coming here and suggesting that you are some kind of economic wizard by puking out a few obscure, self serving graph charts doesn’t prove anything. It’s all gibberish. Until the Federal reserve, the IRS and a bunch of other alphabet agencies are abolished we all will still be subject to a small cadre of international bank percentage swindlers who run the worlds economies like a race track.

Suggesting that Trump is some kind of economic savior is laughable. I never claimed Obama was, only that he was handed a bag of shit by Cheney/Bush and at least the stock market, which is tied to many Americans retirement funds made steady gains through his two terms. The unemployment rates also went down. He also cut down the kill rate of Americans both civilians at home and soldiers abroad which spiked greatly under the Cheney/Bush disaster. All in all, compared to his direct predecessor Obama was a pretty successful President.

Cheers
 

reason10

Governor
WTF do you think Trump’s economy is based on? Huge tax cuts for corporations and billionaires paid for by the biggest deficit spending in history. That along with deregulation measures for international bank percentage swindlers.

That's a lie. And it is an argument you've ALREADY LOST. You can keep telling the same lie over and over again, but facts are facts.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/


For eight years, President Obama presided over the worst economic recovery in modern times. For six years, he blamed Republicans in Congress for thwarting his spending agenda and hampering growth. In his last two years in office, he claimed that 2% growth was the best we could hope for. And in his last year in office, while the economy was again stalling out, Obama claimed that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation would only make things worse.


But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that it's Obama who deserves all the credit.


https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/08/12/the-trump-economy /
https://www.newsmax.com/finance/georgementz/trump-economy-best-50/2019/06/05/id/919096/
Here are 10 facts since Trump was elected that prove this is the best overall economy in more than 50 years:


  1. Employment: PBS News Hour confirmed that this is the best labor market since 1969 with low unemployment, more jobs and rising wages.
  2. GDP: Trump is the first president to have GDP consistently higher than 3%, President Barack Obama was only the president to fail to achieve one year of 3% GDP growth.
  3. Wages: The Washington Post even surrenders to the fact that Trump is the first president to improve wages in a generation where income is at an all-time high.
  4. Stock Market: CNN says the stock market has roared more than 40% since Trump’s election.
  5. Gas and Fuel Prices: Gas prices are low in most U.S. states that don't over-tax fuel with local and state taxes. Many states have $2.15 per gallon gasoline right now. Gas prices may fall this summer according to the latest news.
  6. Ethnic Employment Success: The employment success for all ethnicities is at record high. Obama had difficulty creating jobs and many people gave up looking for work.
  7. Manufacturing Jobs: Manufacturing jobs are back in the U.S. for the first time in a generation. Trump created 284,000 manufacturing jobs in 2018. Forbes implied that millions of manufacturing jobs were lost during Obama’s first 2 years in office. Some 1 in 6 were lost between January 2008 and March 2010 and Obama never got those jobs back.
  8. Taxes and Regulatory: Corporate taxes were cut from 35% to 21%. America moved from worst tax system up to one of the most competitive in the world under Trump’s first 2 years in office. Lower tax rates allow U.S. companies to spend more money, buy more assets, pay more employee benefits, buy stock back to put money on Main Street and into state coffers, and even help pay better dividends to seniors who live paycheck to paycheck.
  9. Nasdaq: The Nasdaq stock market value finally exceeded the 1999 prices under Trump. This implies that companies were stagnant for 18 years until Trump took office.
  10. Level the Playing Field: With a mixed bag of tax-code improvements, removal of red tape, new trade agreements, and competitive tariffs, the U.S. economy is more insulated from failure. Even the Federal Reserve is willing to lower rates if other countries harm the U.S. trading environment.

Read Newsmax: 10 Reasons Trump Economy Is Best in 50 Years | Newsmax.com
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Those are the FACTS. And facts don't care about your feelings.

You have LOST this argument. Move on, snowflake.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
WTF do you think Trump’s economy is based on? Huge tax cuts for corporations and billionaires paid for by the biggest deficit spending in history. That along with deregulation measures for international bank percentage swindlers.

Are you in any way suggesting that Trump has reversed any of the negative trends that you accuse the Obama administration of creating. You are the propagandist here Raoul, not me. All these obscure, self serving, bullshit maps and charts you pull out of websites funded by right wing “think tanks” don’t mean jack shit.

Coming here and suggesting that you are some kind of economic wizard by puking out a few obscure, self serving graph charts doesn’t prove anything. It’s all gibberish. Until the Federal reserve, the IRS and a bunch of other alphabet agencies are abolished we all will still be subject to a small cadre of international bank percentage swindlers who run the worlds economies like a race track.

Suggesting that Trump is some kind of economic savior is laughable. I never claimed Obama was, only that he was handed a bag of shit by Cheney/Bush and at least the stock market, which is tied to many Americans retirement funds made steady gains through his two terms. The unemployment rates also went down. He also cut down the kill rate of Americans both civilians at home and soldiers abroad which spiked greatly under the Cheney/Bush disaster. All in all, compared to his direct predecessor Obama was a pretty successful President.

Cheers
LOL! Go look for a post of mine suggesting Trump has done anything beyond the window dressing of regulatory roll backs and foreign trade deal reform, which have had some marginal effect on the quality of jobs., but has done nothing to arrest our inexorable march to national insolvency. I have a documented history of pointing out the abject futility of the fed's financial repressionary policies and deficit fed "stimulus" throughout the Bushbama and now the Trump ongoing economic debacle. To a large extent it's like Obama never left.

Let. The. Markets. Clear.
 
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