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'Free speech' would be refreshing if we actually had it.

and calling your employees nigger or faggot has repurcussions..bummer.
When did Boltlady ever call anyone a *edited* or a faggot? That is not what she, or most people mourning the loss of free speech/thought, is talking about but then what would a parrot know about free speech eh?
 
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Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can't be fired for saying dumb things.
But when people are fired for saying TRUE things, we have a problem, don't we?

Black UE rate fell during Obama's time in office
From a starting point of the highest unemployment since the great depression, employment crept slowly up in the most anemic economic recovery ever. Somehow, this is proof of Obama's brilliant handling of the economy.
Either delusional or dishonest.

Now the economy belongs to Benedict Donald Trump, all of it
The USA has 3 branches of government.
It also has a somewhat free economy that operates to a degree as it will regardless of government.
The US economy is also dependent on economic factors around the world, over which the US government has little or no control.
The US, together with most developed countries, has a private, central banking system that exercises enormous influence over economies.

No, the economy does not belong to Donald Trump; not all of it and not even most of it.

And why should the govt in its jurisdiction put its stamp of approval on such a place by awarding it a license to do business ?
Where in the 1st amendment is anyone guaranteed a business license ?
The 1st amendment is to prevent government from inhibiting free speech. As businesses can't operate without a government-issued license, government refusing to issue or revoking a business license because of an owner or operator 's speech is government interfering with free speech.
 

AIL

Jet fuel that's a good one.
As it stands we absolutely do not have free speech. We are only allowed to articulate some opinions but not others. It seems to be acceptable to call each other terrible names, accuse each other of terrible things and engage in demonstrations that become quite unwieldy that often result in vandalism. With all of that however there are certain words that we must not say or our entire life's contributions are tossed aside as being evil. It has reached a point of being quite ridiculous.

An aspect of that is racism. People should be allowed to be racist if they want to. While it should not be allowed in places supported by general gov't funds, it should be allowed in private businesses as long as it is clearly indicated as such. After all, if a person sacrifices much and works long hours to build a business he/she should be able to decide how it functions. They would be taking their own chances that by limiting their clientele their business might not survive, but it would be their own choice. As long as it was clearly indicated there would be no reason for those not welcome to be upset. They would know to just avoid that particular business.

People should be allowed to have their own opinions.


People should be allowed to have their own opinions.

Yes we are all allowed to your own opinions and if that opinion offends others its Ok no one has be nice.. You are allowed to offer a constructive criticism of others even if they are offended. As long as you do not heartened them free speech allows you to say what you think about their opinions.
I think that I can say I do not want my grandkids to be expose to a transgender teachers in grammar school. Its too much for any young child to be forced to have a transgender teacher announce her sexuality on my grandkids. If any transgender people are offended by my opinion. I don't care. I do not want any transgender teaching my grandkids.. Is it prejudges on a-my side yes but that is life you will have disagreements and you have to live with the disagreements. Wait until the Grandkids are a little older before introducing a transgender teacher at least until high school.
At the same time I realize that eventually they will be exposed to transgenders but it does not have to be introduced in kindergarten or in grammar school its one thing that can wait until the child is a teenager .
 

Spamature

President
But when people are fired for saying TRUE things, we have a problem, don't we?


From a starting point of the highest unemployment since the great depression, employment crept slowly up in the most anemic economic recovery ever. Somehow, this is proof of Obama's brilliant handling of the economy.
Either delusional or dishonest.


The USA has 3 branches of government.
It also has a somewhat free economy that operates to a degree as it will regardless of government.
The US economy is also dependent on economic factors around the world, over which the US government has little or no control.
The US, together with most developed countries, has a private, central banking system that exercises enormous influence over economies.

No, the economy does not belong to Donald Trump; not all of it and not even most of it.



The 1st amendment is to prevent government from inhibiting free speech. As businesses can't operate without a government-issued license, government refusing to issue or revoking a business license because of an owner or operator 's speech is government interfering with free speech.
Should you be able to run a strip club across the street from a high school and advertise that young female graduates could start making money right away ? Dance is speech as much as anything else. How about a gay male strip club next door to that ? How about business making child porn with computer generated models located near a preschool ?

Or do you allow for community standards enforced by law ?
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Should you be able to run a strip club across the street from a high school and advertise that young female graduates could start making money right away ? Dance is speech as much as anything else. How about a gay male strip club next door to that ? How about business making child porn with computer generated models located near a preschool ?

Or do you allow for community standards enforced by law ?
Ummmmmmm ... How does any of that relate to government refusing or revoking a license to do business because of something an owner or operator said?

Did someone mention here having a problem with zoning regulations? I thought we were discussing free speech.
 

Spamature

President
Ummmmmmm ... How does any of that relate to government refusing or revoking a license to do business because of something an owner or operator said?

Did someone mention here having a problem with zoning regulations? I thought we were discussing free speech.
Actually we are talking about business practices, not speech. You are allowed to say what ever you like. My question is about business practices. I used location just to add emphasis to the practices and ideals being promoted by these businesses. I don't see promoting racism as any different that promoting pedophilia.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Should you be able to run a strip club across the street from a high school and advertise that young female graduates could start making money right away ? Dance is speech as much as anything else. How about a gay male strip club next door to that ? How about business making child porn with computer generated models located near a preschool ?

Or do you allow for community standards enforced by law ?
Schools are teach gay bs...…...club doesn't have to be next door, it's in the damn schools already.

How about liquor stores beside schools in the hood?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Actually we are talking about business practices, not speech. You are allowed to say what ever you like. My question is about business practices. I used location just to add emphasis to the practices and ideals being promoted by these businesses. I don't see promoting racism as any different that promoting pedophilia.
You approve of rappers using the N word and now equate it with kids being sexually molested

not surprised
 

Spamature

President
Schools are teach gay bs...…...club doesn't have to be next door, it's in the damn schools already.

How about liquor stores beside schools in the hood?
You don't have jump up in defense of racism dawg.

Being yourself is enough.
 

Spamature

President
You approve of rappers using the N word and now equate it with kids being sexually molested

not surprised
No I don't approve of it.

I bet you do and have used it against blacks on many an occasion.

Now lie and say you haven't.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
No I don't approve of it.

I bet you do and have used it against blacks on many an occasion.

Now lie and say you haven't.
I've used the N word many times...……..called both white and black lowlife mf'ers that...…..

You have called other blacks the N word as well...……..don't even try saying you haven't, it's what blacks call blacks in da Hood...……..

Now lie and say you haven't...…………………..go ahead boy
 

Spamature

President
I've used the N word many times...……..called both white and black lowlife mf'ers that...…..

You have called other blacks the N word as well...……..don't even try saying you haven't, it's what blacks call blacks in da Hood...……..

Now lie and say you haven't...…………………..go ahead boy
My parents taught me not to use that word in conversation.
 
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