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GAO confirms that Trump broke the law with the Ukraine shakedown

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Bugsy McGurk, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Bugsy McGurk

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    middleview President Supporting Member

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    On msn.com there is a link titled "takeaways from the parnas interview"

    A document turned over by Parnas from Lutsenko says "I'm sorry, but this is bullshit. I'm f*cking sick of all this. ...I'm prepared to thrash your opponent. but you want more".

    That was May 13....
     
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    Nope. The funds wee dispersed within the year Congress voted on them. That's all the law requires. Furthermore, Congress does not create nor vote on foreign policy. That is the President's privilege. Democrats really need to get this Constitutional FACT straight in their heads. The GAO is wrong. And Parnas is lying. This is just the Democrat media throwing you people a bone.
    Sorry about that.
     
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    He’s “lying”? How did he get signed and dated documents from Trump supporters backing up his “lies”?

    The law also requires that Congress is informed when aid is not disbursed on schedule and told why that is happening. Trump’s own staff told him it was illegal, now the GAO confirms that.
     
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    This isn't true.
     
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    This is not, "another finding", sorry.

    This is another OPINION.

    YOUR linked to article states;
    1) This is according to a "nonpartisan congressional watchdog".
    (These watchdog groups do not determine what is legal or not, they inform you of what they see as government errors or shortcomings. This particular one, by their very title, watches over Congress anyway, sooo………...)

    2) "The GAO said in a decision issued Thursday that the White House budget office violated the Impoundment Control Act, a 1974 law that limits the White House from withholding funds that Congress has appropriated."
    (Note this is their "decision". Nothing more. An OPINION."

    3) The Office of Management and Budget told the GAO it "withheld the funds to ensure that they were not spent 'in a manner that could conflict with the President's foreign policy,'"
    (The OMB's OPINION.)

    4) "But the GAO rejected that argument."
    (HUH? How is THAT? Under what authority is the GAO granted the power to accept or reject the validity of the opinions of all?)

    5) The GAO wrote, "OMB withheld funds for a policy reason, which is not permitted under the Impoundment Control Act. The withholding was not a programmatic delay."
    (And under whose authority was this watchdog group granted the right and ability to determine whose reason for delays is "the" one and only correct one ?)

    6) "Therefore, we conclude that OMB violated the ICA."
    ( Well hells bells, there you have it...…..this BS is actually a legal finding because, well, as was stated, this watchdog group concluded it was...…….Damn.)

    7) "This bombshell legal opinion from the independent Government Accountability Office demonstrates, without a doubt, that the Trump Administration illegally withheld security assistance from Ukraine."
    (Where did it do that exactly? Demonstrate without a doubt that the Trump Administration acted illegally I mean.)

    8) "The publicly available evidence also shows that the President himself ordered this illegal act, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, a Maryland Democrat, said.
    "The act perhaps, it doesn't show it was illegal, otherwise we wouldn't be hearing about all these OPINIONS on the matter, correct? So this being in the OPINION of the good Sen. from Maryland makes this sh it no more legitimate than the opinions of you and I, sorry but that is just the truth.)
     
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  12. EatTheRich

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    The GAO is congressional staff.
     
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    AND Yet another Nothingburger. You were gaslighted !!!


    Just a reminder that GAO findings are not legally binding and no, they are not impeachable.
    In fact, the law provides latitude to fix issues and none of them are impeachment.
    Obama also "broke the law" according to the GAO. I missed his impeachment trial.


    General Accounting Office has come out with a report determining that the administration did in fact violate the law when it failed to notify Congress about the impending prisoner swap as required by law:

    WASHINGTON—The Obama administration violated the law when it failed to give Congress adequate notice about the transfer of five detainees from Guantanamo Bay as part of a swap for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the investigative arm of Congress said Thursday.



    This latest GAO decision is meaningless. It isn’t legally binding and even if it were, the remedies are administrative in nature. The left and the media are simply gaslighting the public by pretending otherwise.
     
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    And meaningless
     
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    Another Trump cultist “legal scholar.”

    ;-)
     
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  16. Bugsy McGurk

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    Translation: Quick! Look over there!

    ;-)
     
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    Translation- Look It's another nothingburger you fell for LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I would tend to agree that our entire political system at this point it indeed utterly meaningless, and dysfunctionally unable to self correct. And capital is pleased.
     
  19. Bugsy McGurk

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    In Trumplandia, the illegal conduct of Dear Leader Trump is considered a “nothingburger.”

    ;-)
     
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    Legal opinions are legal explanations of their decisions under law, not speculations on what might have happened.
     
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