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Glacier National Park removes signs that glaciers gone by 2020

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Dino, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Dino

    Dino Operational Overwatch

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    • Glacier National Park quietly removed a visitor center sign saying its iconic glaciers will disappear by 2020 due to climate change.
    • Several winters of heavy snowfall threw off climate model projections the glaciers would all disappear by 2020, according to federal officials.
    • A blogger first noticed the signage change and noted other signs warning of “impending glacier disappearance have been replaced.”
    The National Park Service (NPS) quietly removed a visitor center sign saying the glaciers at Glacier National Park would disappear by 2020 due to climate change.

    As it turns out, higher-than-average snowfall in recent years upended computer model projections from the early 2000s that NPS based its claim glaciers “will all be gone by the year 2020,” federal officials said.

    “Glacier retreat in Glacier National Park speeds up and slows down with fluctuations in the local climate,” the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which monitors Glacier National Park, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

    “Those signs were based on the observation prior to 2010 that glaciers were shrinking more quickly than a computer model predicted they would,” USGS said. “Subsequently, larger than average snowfall over several winters slowed down that retreat rate and the 2020 date used in the NPS display does not apply anymore.”

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/national-park-glacier-warnings/

    More incorrect computer modeling. Amazing huh?
    Maybe these things aren’t so easily predicted? Maybe the models have incomplete and incorrect data for calculating such things??
    I don’t think anyone is surprised by incorrect predictions. What’s surprising is that people find this “settled science” and yet it still not reliable to pick dates, temperatures, precipitation levels or general trends.
     
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  2. Nutty Cortez

    Nutty Cortez Woot Woot !!!!!!

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    It was a sign to trigger kids and very dumb leftists (my base)
     
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  3. Dino

    Dino Operational Overwatch

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    You libs are smart. You found out what’s easier than changing the climate. Just change the signs.
     
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  4. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Governor Supporting Member

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    I guess the park doeskin believe in 'settled science'...lol.
     
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  5. Zam-Zam

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    Settled Science Redux:

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  6. Dino

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    I’m convinced Al’s rhetoric stemmed from creating an industry for carbon offsets for profits. He ramped up the drama to force corporations to pay money for environmental penance.
    He made his bucks and cannot he held accountable for his massive errors and exaggerations.
     
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  7. Bear Claw

    Bear Claw A very lovable bear

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    A weatherman can be wrong so many times and still gets paid!

    He also keeps his job?

    :):)
     
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  8. Nostra

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    And yet another MMGW Cult predictions goes down in flames. :D
     
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  9. Nostra

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    Exactly.

    So-called "Experts" can't tell us if it will rain tomorrow, but want us to believe they KNOW it will be 1/2 of 1 degree hotter 50 years from now.
     
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  10. Zam-Zam

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    FWIW: 18 "Spectacularly Wrong" predictions concerning the climate, brought to you by the purveyors of settled science (circa 1970):


    1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

    2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

    3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

    4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

    5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

    6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

    7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

    8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

    9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

    10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

    11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

    12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

    13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.8 years).

    14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

    15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

    16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

    17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

    18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”


    Complete text: http://www.aei.org/publication/18-s...st-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-2/


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  11. Dino

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    The question isn't whether these people are allowed to keep jobs.
    The question is to when do these folks lose enough credibility in their theories and in their character that they finally fail to continue to dupe the public?
    How long should we allow them to get away with this, while receiving awards and huge government grants just to scam us?
     
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  12. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    And now with the solar minimum upon us the glaciers will expand again as they always do
     
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  13. ObamacareForever

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    Do tell us what a solar minimum is?
     
  14. Bear Claw

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    The glaciers in the Artic and Antarctica do not support your theory at all!
     
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  15. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    Google it *edited*
     
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  16. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    If u say that there is no snow, it must be true
     
  17. ObamacareForever

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    I am curious why you think they have anything to do with climate change.
     
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    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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  19. ObamacareForever

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    strawman.
     
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