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  1. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    I have no problem with a group that has been constantly discriminated against joining into groups. That’s just me. And I’m certainly no racist.
     
  2. Colorforms

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    You say you have no problem with a racial group discriminating against another racial group, but you're not a racist?

    I just have to shake my head. :)
     
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  3. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    How is it discrimination to promote your own group?
     
  4. Colorforms

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    It's discrimination, racial discrimination, to exclude a race, is it not? If you open a place that allows white people in, but tell blacks they can't come in, then that is discrimination, is it not? So if a group of blacks say that whites aren't allowed, like say some college "safe spaces" then how is that NOT discrimination based on race, and therefore racial discrimination?

    Again, just like the left, you're blinded by skin color. I am quite sure no living black person here in the US has been a slave. That is just an excuse to keep blacks voting democrat.
     
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  5. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    It excludes all races other than the one that has been abused by our society for years. I have no issue with that.

    The fact that you think that slavery is the only way blacks have been discriminated against shows how much you don’t understand it. Or choose not to. We won’t say what that could potentially make you.
     
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  6. Colorforms

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    Right, here in the US we call that institutional racism. I know you have no problem with that. That is half the problem with the left. racism and discrimination are just fine so long as it's the "right" groups doing the discriminating.

    I didn't say it was the only way blacks were discriminated against, but I'm not writing a book for your benefit. Sorry your argument was so thin that you had to go this route and take a cheap shot. Yes, blacks are discriminated against, much of it is by perception. They are discriminated against in their own neighborhoods by "acting too white". Then when they go out to try and make something of themselves, they are discriminated against because they don't often have the life skills to get and keep a job. That is a cultural problem, not a racism problem.

    Allowing blacks to stay in their cultural rut is not the solution to be problem, but the problem itself.
     
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  7. now_what

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    Nobody “allows” blacks to do anything. They aren’t stupid like you think. Most Americans, regardless of race, are capable of making the best decisions for themselves and their families. You don’t know better than they do what is best for each individual, no matter how many worn out talking points you throw out there.

    The ignorance you have shown about what blacks have gone through shows what is wrong with the right today. You can’t just sweep it under the rug. You can blame them for their problems all you want, but years of mistreatment, underfunded schools and workplace discrimination are only part of the things they must go through. It’s not an issue that can be oversimplified as “they weren’t slaves” and it’s over.
     
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  8. Colorforms

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    Do you read what you type?

    In the first paragraph you talk about how they aren't stupid and they are making the best decisions for themselves and their families, and then in the second paragraph you talk about how they go to underfunded schools and suffer years of mistreatment.

    Most of the mistreatment that blacks suffer is at their own hands. It's not whites that are creating these high crime neighborhoods and mistreating blacks. The drop out rate in inner city schools is spectacular, and yet I'm supposed to believe that they are making the best decisions for themselves? Do you think dropping out of school and not getting an education is a great decision?

    That is where the problem begins, at their own hands and by their own decisions. You can claim it's all white people, but it's not.

    No, I don't think blacks are stupid, but I don't think they are doing the best thing for themselves either, and if you do, then you are the one who doesn't understand what is going on in the black community.
     
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  9. UPNYA2

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    Moot point.

    He wouldn't have been banned if the races were reversed.
     
  10. kaz

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    Poor blacks make poor choices that keep them poor, just like poor whites do. Anyone can get out of poverty if they make better choices. As blacks become less poor, they become more conservative, just like every other race.

    That's why Democrats are so determined to keep blacks disproportionately poor. That's how you disproportionately get their votes.

    Importing millions of illegal aliens is win-win for you. Eventually, the uneducated poor you bring in vote for Democrats and you keep blacks poor at the same time by taking away their job opportunities. Democrats are a real swell group
     
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  11. now_what

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    Wow, you sure think blacks are stupid. I disagree. I believe that they make decisions that are based on what is best for themselves, their family and their country, just like you do. I don't believe that you are smart enough or that they are stupid enough for you to make broad generalizations on what is better for other people.
     
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  12. kaz

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    now_what: Saying blacks are like whites???? That's racist!!!!

    And you're a liar. Nowhere did I say blacks are stupid. I said poor blacks are like poor whites and non-poor blacks are like non-poor whites. You are a jerk
     
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  13. UPNYA2

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    "I don't believe that you are smart enough or that they are stupid enough for you to make broad generalizations on what is better for other people."

    Uhhhhhhh…....Isn't that what YOU are doing?

    Care to share the special qualifications/requirements that you meet and these others do not?
     
  14. now_what

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    Please refrain from name calling. Not only is it against forum rules, but it also makes you look defeated. Thank you.
     
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  15. now_what

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    No problem. Most people are intelligent enough to understand what is best for themselves and their families. Most people are not intelligent enough to understand what is best for other people or their families. People have personal reasons for making the political choices that they make. Pretending to know their thoughts better than they do is ignorant and insulting.

    Clearer for you?
     
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  16. now_what

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    Thank you for your opinion. If you have any facts to go with it, that would be much more helpful.

    My OPINION is that some blacks don't have interest in voting for a party that so often vocalizes racism toward them and speak of them as if they are inferior. I know I wouldn't appreciate that much. But that's just my opinion. I bet your reply to "Black Lives Matter" is an emphatic "ALL Lives Matter". If it isn't, most in your ilk would say that. That shows right there that they don't understand the added difficulties that black people go through in this country.
     
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  17. UPNYA2

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    Well...…..I DO like this part;
    "People have personal reasons for making the political choices that they make. Pretending to know their thoughts better than they do is ignorant and insulting."

    And yet you do it all the time....…..

    Vote against some Green new deal type of policy...."science denier".
    Vote against some social program...…."greedy".
    Vote FOR enforcing US laws...…..."bigot".
    Vote against any bill to benefit homosexuals or transgenders...…….."homophobic".
    Vote for laws that treat violence against any and everyone equally, with no "special" punishment for it being inflicted upon one "special" race, gender, nationality or orientation...….."racist", "sexist", misogynist", etc.

    Ever seen or heard tell of any on the left saying this about others who do not share their voting habits?

    I have.
     
  18. kaz

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    now_what: You're a racist, kaz

    now_what: Please don't call names, kaz

    Your typical stupid crap
     
  19. now_what

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    Can you quote where I called you a racist? I sure hope you can, otherwise I'll be happy to call you a liar.
     
  20. Dawg

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    leftist think blacks are so stupid they can't get an ID blacks prove leftist wrong

     
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