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Good to know: A majority of Americans still have common sense.

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Barbella, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Barbella

    Barbella Senator

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    • A majority of voters in all seven states support construction of the wall.
    • Some 60% of likely voters support efforts that would “prevent migrants from making fraudulent [asylum] claims and being released into the country.”
    • A majority of voters in all seven states support reforms that “gives priority to higher-wage workers who are self-sufficient.”
    • Clear majorities approve of reforms to end so-called “chain migration” and “give greater preference to immigrants with needed skills, and limit family-based immigration to spouses and minor children.”
    • Three-quarters of voters support mandatory use of E-Verify by all employers to prevent illegal aliens from taking jobs in the U.S.
     
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  2. The Thinker

    The Thinker Over The Top Abuser

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    This will be tough for leftists to spin. It could take days for talking points to come out. On the other hand, they can just do what they normally do and cry *racism*.

    Of course, the reality is this bodes well for Trump and horribly for leftists. They are completely and intensely at odds with normal, mainstream Americans.
     
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  3. Jen

    Jen meh

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    And yet, there are still plenty of Lefties who prefer to be senseless.
     
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  4. Barbella

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    And that's what it all comes down to. Leftists simply aren't normal people, much less Americans.
     
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  5. ObamacareForever

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    Good thing our votes count just the same.
     
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  6. Jen

    Jen meh

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    It's sad that they went from being tolerant Liberals ..........to this sick version of humanity.
     
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    So So So So So Sad.
     
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  9. EatTheRich

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    All 7 states, huh? Looks like they chose states that will be important to Trump’s re-election, confirming for thinking people that the caps for these measures aren’t about security, they’reabout politics
     
  10. RickWA

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    Liberals moved to either Independent or Libertarian. Extremist authoritarian collectivists moved to the Democratic Party.
     
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  11. now_what

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    Oh, so now polls are real? Interesting...

     
  12. Jen

    Jen meh

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    It's the Communist Party now except they just don't say it out loud and in public places. They know it though.
     
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  13. RickWA

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    One need only go to the CP USA website and compare it the the Democratic Party platform. Very nearly indistinguishable.
     
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  14. Jen

    Jen meh

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    Yes. That's true.
     
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  15. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    I think that anybody that could support s dictator like trump is more communist than anything we have going. He’s more of a cult leader than a president. I think you know that.
     
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  16. Dawg

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    Yet, he's your President as you said Lil' Barry was mine...………:)
     
  17. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    I’m am American, so yes he is...can’t argue that.
     
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    As an American Lil' Barry was mine...………...like it or not...……...I've lived through all
     
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  19. David J Spetch

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    Never forget a handful of imbeciles controlling the main stream doesn't ever make up the majority of people anywhere no matter what rubbish the main stream feeds you.

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    QUOTE="Barbella, post: 2450069, member: 8465"]
    • A majority of voters in all seven states support construction of the wall. (Why does anyone believe a poll conducted by FAIR? Their whole mission in life is to keep latinos and blacks from shithole countries in their place- which is not here- replacing white people. Truly, seriously, google this anti-immigrant, anti-anything but white people fake media site and if you are even a little bit honest, you will see no one should trust anything coming out of this right wing nazi like white only media site.
      Home » The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)

      The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)


      Has this Media Source failed a fact check? LET US KNOW HERE.



      [​IMG]QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
      A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.
      • Overall, we rate FAIR Questionable based on Extreme Right Wing Bias as it relates to immigration, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies, as well as having connections to documented Hate Groups.
      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

    • Some 60% of likely voters support efforts that would “prevent migrants from making fraudulent [asylum] claims and being released into the country.”(And what democrat wants people asking for asylum "fraudulently" to be let loose inside the country? What does that even mean?)
    • A majority of voters in all seven states support reforms that “gives priority to higher-wage workers who are self-sufficient.” (I have a problem with only letting certain people with certain skills migrate here...What if that policy was in place in this country from Day One...how many of us would be here today? What skills did most people who have come here over the last 220 years or so have that were so valuable? What if we made being able to read and write English mandatory- what about Trump's family who came over here only about 80 years ago? or Little Mario's family from Cuba? or any of the German, Italian, Jewish, Polish, immigrants who have come here legally and become the backbone of our country, without speaking English when they came? and what kind of certain skill did Melania have that justified her being here- the ability to look good while wearing clothes? I believe we have a whole huge boatload of women here that can do that....)
    • Clear majorities approve of reforms to end so-called “chain migration” and “give greater preference to immigrants with needed skills, and limit family-based immigration to spouses and minor children.” (Who is for chain migration, except for the closest family members, except maybe Melania and her extended family who have all come here?

      I have a problem with only letting certain people with certain skills migrate here...What if that policy was in place in this country from Day One...how many of us would be here today? What skills did most people who have come here over the last 220 years or so have that were so valuable? What if we made being able to read and write English mandatory- what about Trump's family who came over here only about 80 years ago? or Little Mario's family from Cuba? or any of the German, Italian, Jewish, Polish, immigrants who have come here legally and become the backbone of our country, without speaking English when they came? and what kind of certain skill did Melania have that justified her being here- the ability to look good while wearing clothes? I believe we have a whole huge boatload of women here that can do that....)
    • Three-quarters of voters support mandatory use of E-Verify by all employers to prevent illegal aliens from taking jobs in the U.S. (Most democrats are cool with those common sense reforms. The democrats have been trying to get e-verify passed for decades but republicans, who are funded by a lot of big ag companies and other companies that depend on cheap labor for their heavy duty manual labor no American wants to do for such low wages, have fought against it, and fought against PUNISHING THE HELL OUT OF THOSE WHO HIRE SOMEONE WITHOUT E-VERIFY.)
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    More facts about how bigoted and neo-nazi FAIR is-

    First, a quick factual correction. FAIR doesn’t “just” research “the facts” about immigration policy. It is a lobbying organization. This is no secret. On its own website, under “Our Objectives,” FAIR said it seeks “to influence public policy directly by lobbying (to the extent permitted by our tax status) and by protecting the citizens' rights in the courts.” Its “mission,” in part, is to “advocate immigration policies that will best serve American environmental, societal, and economic interests today and into the future.”

    So there’s that.

    And then there’s the “facts” FAIR puts out there, the alleged “truth” that, you say, is so disliked by the “other side.”

    Sometimes FAIR’s “facts” are true. More often, they’re debatable, culled as they are from dubious sources like FAIR’s sister organization, the Center for Immigration Studies.

    The bottom line is, FAIR doesn’t peddle facts; it peddles hate. Its lobbying and legal efforts – such as the campaign that led to Arizona’s SB 1070 and Alabama’s HB 56 – are based on fomenting fear, on exploiting racial tensions and economic anxieties to convince people that they had better not let any more “aliens” into their country.

    FAIR founder John Tanton, a man with a lengthy record of friendly correspondence with Holocaust deniers, a former Klan lawyer and leading white nationalist thinkers, has repeatedly suggested that racial conflict will be the outcome of immigration. In 1998, he told a reporter that whites would inevitably develop a racial consciousness because “most people don't want to disappear into the dustbin of history,” and added that once whites did become racially conscious, the result would be “the war of each against all.”

    Dan Stein, FAIR’s president, is no better. “Immigrants don't come all church-loving, freedom-loving, God-fearing,” he said in 1997. “Many of them hate America, hate everything that the United States stands for. Talk to some of these Central Americans.”

    Need more examples? Former Colorado Gov. Richard Lamm, a longtime member of FAIR's board of advisors, once said that “new cultures” in America were “diluting what we are and who we are.” And Joseph Turner, FAIR’s former Western field representative, once accused Mexican immigrants of turning California into a "third world cesspool.”

    Not to mention FAIR’s “suggested reading” on immigration, which includes white nationalist Peter Brimelow’s Alien Nation, a book whose central thesis is that America should remain a country dominated by whites.

    FAIR also recommends Pat Buchanan’s State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America, which argues that America’s shift away from being white-dominated is "one of the greatest tragedies in human history.”

    So yes, John and Ken, FAIR is a hate group. Not because it promulgates “facts” and “truths” its opponents would rather ignore but because it promotes hatred of immigrants, especially non-white ones.

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2012/08/10/how-do-we-know-fair-hate-group
     
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